French President Calls For A 'European Army' To Defend Against China, Russia And The U.S. | TIME

[AViet]

The french dont have the stomach for real war.

I always wonder how army of liberte France will fight in a real war. I mean, to showcase their new weapons, it is OK. To bomb countries like Syria or Lybia, a high-paid and no danger job, it is OK. But to fight real armies like China or Russia?

Will soldiers ask for overtime payment to fight after 5PM? Will they say "your order violates my human right" if the order is a dangerous one. Will soldier ask for voting before accepting the order from their commanders? Will the soldier say to their commander "you must respect my individual freedom, I do not want to fight today"

if country abuse the term "human right" or "freedom", it will go back to bite themselves.

 

[Vergennes]

The french dont have the stomach for real war.

Is that your opinion,an authentic fact or just usual French bashing ?

 

[Awan68]

Is that your opinion,an authentic fact or just usual French bashing ?

No, just plain history.

I always wonder how army of liberte France will fight in a real war. I mean, to showcase their new weapons, it is OK. To bomb countries like Syria or Lybia, a high-paid and no danger job, it is OK. But to fight real armies like China or Russia?

Will soldiers ask for overtime payment to fight after 5PM? Will they say "your order violates my human right" if the order is a dangerous one. Will soldier ask for voting before accepting the order from their commanders? Will the soldier say to their commander "you must respect my individual freedom, I do not want to fight today"

if country abuse the term "human right" or "freedom", it will go back to bite themselves.

Even in the good old times, they got bullied n surrendered twice to the germans and defeated multiple times by the british,

 

[Vergennes]

No, just plain history.


Even in the good old times, they got bullied n surrendered twice to the germans and defeated multiple times by the british,

You like it or not France is the country with one of the best military record on earth,centuries of military engagements and wars.... the vomit coming out of your mouth isn't going to change this fact.

You should keep a low profile considering your country's military history and records,but of course you wouldn't mention this fact...

 

[AViet]

No, just plain history.


Even in the good old times, they got bullied n surrendered twice to the germans and defeated multiple times by the british,

I respect their army, they fought hard, won and colonized Vietnam (although Vietnam was very weak then after 300 hundred years of civil war and the kings were basically Cham, an Indianized race, not Viet). However, if they keep abusing the term "democracy" and "human right", they will surely harm them.

 

[Awan68]

I respect their army, they fought hard, won and colonized Vietnam (although Vietnam was very weak then after 300 hundred years of civil war and the kings were basically Cham, an Indianized race, not Viet). However, if they keep abusing the term "democracy" and "human right", they will surely harm them.

Mate u cant count colonization as war, it was technology versus tribal hakf naked people. Thats not war, its called murder. A real war is when the enemy has some parity with u n in such cases the french have always shamed themselves.

 

[Georg]

Without US European are worthless in front of Russia China .

utterly bullcrap... Russia of today isn´t the Red Army of the cold war with 5million soldiers...
today the turkish Ground Forces allone have more men under arms than the Russian Ground Forces...

The NATO without USA outnumber Russia in any possible respect...
modern tanks
tanks overall
artillery
fighter
ships
helicopter
man under arms
reserve
political power
economical power

The only thing that keeps Russia political one world stage are their nukes...

Mate u cant count colonization as war, it was technology versus tribal hakf naked people. Thats not war, its called murder. A real war is when the enemy has some parity with u n in such cases the french have always shamed themselves.

seriously dude get some education...

like many nations France has won and lost many wars... there is no undefeted nation on earth... everyone got its *** whooped at one point in history... France won 6 wars in the 21th century..

 

[Awan68]

utterly bullcrap... Russia of today isn´t the Red Army of the cold war with 5million soldiers...
today the turkish Ground Forces allone have more men under arms than the Russian Ground Forces...

The NATO without USA outnumber Russia in any possible respect...
modern tanks
tanks overall
artillery
fighter
ships
helicopter
man under arms
reserve
political power
economical power

The only thing that keeps Russia political one world stage are their nukes...



seriously dude get some education...

like many nations France has won and lost many wars... there is no undefeted nation on earth... everyone got its *** whooped at one point in history... France won 6 wars in the 21th century..

No amount of dilly dallying from u can refute the fact that french are famous for surrendering in wars and while ur at at it get some kindergarden education urself n learn the difference between battles n wars, the french may have won battles but they have lost wars with utmost consistency.

 

[AViet]

Mate u cant count colonization as war, it was technology versus tribal hakf naked people. Thats not war, its called murder. A real war is when the enemy has some parity with u n in such cases the french have always shamed themselves.

Since Nam Viet (Nanyue) kingdom (100BC), Vietnam has always been a civilized nation with centralized government and professional, dedicated army. And we invented cannon (or one of the first countries to use and modernize cannon to use in real war), which used by the French as the key weapon to invade Vietnam.

 

[Kambojaric]

Mate u cant count colonization as war, it was technology versus tribal hakf naked people. Thats not war, its called murder. A real war is when the enemy has some parity with u n in such cases the french have always shamed themselves.

What about Napoleon stomping his way across Europe? Only the navy of the British prevented the French from militarily establishing conplete dominance over Europe, which is no mean feat.

 

[Awan68]

What about Napoleon stomping his way across Europe? Only the navy of the British prevented the French from militarily establishing conplete dominance over Europe, which is no mean feat.

Napoleon was a special case, i am talking about the character of the nation in general, people like Napoleon are cases of once in centuries. One cant form comprehensive judgements on individual cases of brilliance and by the way, "NAPOLEON LOST THE WAR TOO."

 

[Georg]

No amount of dilly dallying from u can refute the fact that french are famous for surrendering in wars and while ur at at it get some kindergarden education urself n learn the difference between battles n wars, the french may have won battles but they have lost wars with utmost consistency.

At what war the frensh surrendered in the 21th century?
U are just a silly dumb hate speacher...
BTW silly boy...there is NO war in ur own terms since the end of the cold war because in the end it is always a unfair fight of a technical logistic supperior against poor equipped...

Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Tunesia
Gaza

 

[Thorough Pro]

Why do they need to oppose Russia and China in favour of US?
I think they will be better off with Russia and China.

Without US European are worthless in front of Russia China .

 

[Awan68]

At what war the frensh surrendered in the 21th century?
U are just a silly dumb hate speacher...
BTW silly boy...there is NO war in ur own terms since the end of the cold war because in the end it is always a unfair fight of a technical logistic supperior against poor equipped...

Iraq
Afghanistan
Syria
Tunesia
Gaza

Ummmm,
1) Napoleonic wars
2)WW1
3)WW2
now dont start with rants of why, boy.
and ofcourse im not gonna discuss power parity with u cause obviously u are logically illequipped.

 

[Roybot]

Europe has no threat from China, its the Russians who need to wary of the Chinese.