Free India would have fragmented without Gandhi: British historian

[KRAIT]

Gandhiji was like Sachin Tendulkar in Indian team.

If India fails, its because they didn't perform according to expectations and other people/players' failure go unnoticed.

 

[arp2041]

Din't there was a British PM who once said this about what will happen to India if it is given freedom - "Power will go to the hands of rascals, rogues and freebooters. All Indian leaders will be of low calibre and men of straw. They will have sweet tongues and silly hearts. They will fight amongst themselves for power and India will be lost in political squabbles. A day would come when even air and water would be taxed."

And Thanks to God, The same Britain now, is running after Indian leaders (rascals in there eye ) to get a share in Indian Defence market, Retail market, want to get benefit from the burgeoning Indian economy, etc.

Apparently the British PM said this also - "India is merely a geographical expression. It is no more a single country than the equator."

& Yes Mr. Churchill, today India is more than just a geographical expression, it is nearly 10 times the size of same Britain that u lead once, it is growing stronger & united with each passing day. When the sun has already set on the British empire, India is looking for a great day ahead.

The Point is that India don't need certificate from British PM or British Historian on what would have happened "IF", India will find it's own destiny, a suggestion for u will be to better take care of ur own country.

 

[Tshering22]

What a last ditch attempt by the British to glorify their pathetic servant. India of today became one because Godse killed that idiot. Unfortunately, the brave patriot did not live to see and was hanged by the colonial servants aka Congress just like how they murdered Bhagat Singh and Netaji.

Thank goodness Gandhi was snuffed otherwise India would not have been there. His idiotic appeasement of Muslims nearly cost us our northern half of the country.

 

[nForce]

What a last ditch attempt by the British to glorify their pathetic servant. India of today became one because Godse killed that idiot. Unfortunately, the brave patriot did not live to see and was hanged by the colonial servants aka Congress just like how they murdered Bhagat Singh and Netaji.

Thank goodness Gandhi was snuffed otherwise India would not have been there. His idiotic appeasement of Muslims nearly cost us our northern half of the country.

Its very complicated and we cannot look back at this particular part of history and say Gandhi should have done that instead of this.
I personally dont believe in his principles and Gandhi indeed made many mistakes,willingly or unwillingly,but then there is no point in arguing about the fact that during his time,there was no other Indian leader who could match the appeal and organizational capability of Gandhi.Perhaps Subhas Bose could,but faint chance.

 

[ajtr]

Gandhiji was like Sachin Tendulkar in Indian team.

If India fails, its because they didn't perform according to expectations and other people/players' failure go unnoticed.

Wrong anology when Sachin's own game and playing style is different and independent from/of 11 other players in the team and it no way influnce the other players performance.

In case of Gandhi it was his ideology which was core of INC and india's independence movement.So failure of India is failure of Gandhi but failure of sachin is not failure of TI....example 2011 wc final.

 

[KRAIT]

Wrong anology when Sachin's own game and playing style is different and independent from/of 11 other players in the team and it no way influnce the other players performance.

In case of Gandhi it was his ideology which was core of INC and india's independence movement.So failure of India is failure of Gandhi but failure of sachin is not failure of TI....example 2011 wc final.

You didn't get it at the first place. Read more about Sachin and past record.

Gandhi has his own way of thinking which wasn't same of others. They have their own decision making process.

But its idiotic to further explain my analogy to you. Feel free to disagree but not to disagree for the sake of it.

 

[ajtr]

You didn't get it at the first place. Read more about Sachin and past record.

Gandhi has his own way of thinking which wasn't same of others. They have their own decision making process.

But its idiotic to further explain my analogy. Feel free to disagree but not to disagree for the sake of it.

Reason is that your analogy itself is wrong from the start.How can yo compare a cricket player with that of an ideological leader of a country.

 

[KRAIT]

Meri marzi. They have many similarities.

Ab aage bado, husshhhh.

 

[ajtr]

So typical of an indian.......

Btw what happened to your ignore button.....

 

[bronxbull]

Not quite sure why everyone says that Jinnah wanted a Secular Pakistan. Jinnah never used the word "Secular."

If Jinnah wanted a "Secular" Pakistan, then hes nothing but a traitor.

Then the real heroes are Chaudhry Rehmat Ali, Chaudhry Niaz Ali Khan, and Allama Iqbal.


As for the British historian reanalyzing the independence of Pakistan and India, hes wasting his time.

The independence of Pakistan, India, and Myanmar has been analyzed already.

People have moved on now from partition, and nobody cares whats on the other side of the border.

Pakistan's future is with Central Asia and China.

Goodluck with that,

I would love to see what aukaat you get with Russi(CentralAsia),Iran(CentralAsia) & China.

Very good to see central asian invaders going back to their nomadic aukaat.

Look at Jinnah's personality: 3 piece suits, no false religiosity, no concept of 5 time prayers, Rolls Royce car, fine wines, honest to the core, truthful, model of self respect, Top notch attorney.

Look at Mullees and Ayatulles who opposed Jinnah: Big beardos, Na shakal na akal, false religiosity, no one trusted them with a takka, 5 time prayers, Islamo fascism galore.


Jinnah - Stood for Pakistan

Mullees and Ayatulles declared Jinnah Kafir, and Pakistan the idea from hell.


If you think Jinnah wanted Islamistan with law based on Islamofascism, how come Mullee Mawdoodee and every other beardo was against Jinnah?

Huh?

Tell us please.

These Mullees were worried that people will become forward looking, educated, bright and modern like Jinnah in the country called Pakistan.


So whatever logic you have buried in your head needs to be examined a bit. Otherwise you will keep on stinking up the forums with terms like Sheku-larims that you have no idea about.


peace to you my dear peace to you. Stick with fashion shows and namaz please. Pak history is not your forte.

Very true,

But sometime i think Jinnah was the cool agent.Jinnah was a rajpiut from gujarat who were into trading,thats like the khatri community of Punjab.It means he is full on Hindu blood,i wont be surprised if he did this to keep the subcontinent identity from getting manipulated.Unfortunately he died too soon to realise anything.

 

[bronxbull]

I respectfully disagree with this author.

We need to first see who was replaced by Gandhi?

Who was Congress's leader before Gandhi showed up on the scene?

Why that leader was removed and Gandhi was put in charge?

What were the qualities of Gandhi that attracted the "king makers"?

When Gandhi used these qualities in Indian subcontinent, did they hurt or help the cause?


many many questions like these have to be answered first before one can talk about Gandhi's contributions.

And if we don't ask questions, probing questions about Gandhi's political role, then we are just repeating standard history as taught in Indian elementary schools, and propogated by half-educated TV baboons called anchors.


thank you.


p.s. No disrespect intended for Gandhi Ji or Indians or Pakistanis or Timbuktuins.

Gandhi's name is often over Worshipped or over abused in India and thats the sign of a great man.

He is a great man and he made India unique and he understood India uniquely in a way nobody could,right at the nerve right at the gut.

People from all across the country,including many Muslims naturally gyrated with his ideas.

People often say that Muslims never supported Gandhi,i mean seriously,come on?

The province of frontier,full of trigger happy pathans supported the congress including khan abdul gaffar khan.

doesn't that mean something?

The real fact is economics and spirituality alone governed things,not emotions as many think with politics.

 

[Tshering22]

So typical of an indian.......

Btw what happened to your ignore button.....

But then waht are you? Indo-Pak border?

Seems like you're stuck between the two flags for ever being raised in neither of the lands and criticizing both at the same time.

 

[Tshering22]

Dear dear... years of trying to break nations across the world has now returned back to the "Land of Hope and Glory".

 

[Kinetic]

if partition was not fragmentation then what was it....?And it happened in the lifetime of Gandhi just coz he wanted to install his favorite,Nehru as PM.

That is total lie. Gandhi told Jinnah, when India get independence he will become PM of India not Nehru. This is well known fact.

 

[KS]

People from all across the country,including many Muslims naturally gyrated with his ideas.

People often say that Muslims never supported Gandhi,i mean seriously,come on?

A paradox aint it ?
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Muslims, too, have staged a similar volte face. They had opposed him tooth and nail during his life-time. The language which their press had used for him provides a study in pornography. But after his death they have been holding him up in order to harangue Hindu society. Not that they hve changed their opinion about him or imbibed any of his teachings. They are only using him as a device to put Hindu society on the defensive.

Although there is a bit of generalization involved in the above excerpt, I would like to add the word "Many" as the first word.