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Green Light for Follow-on Saudi Typhoon Deal

- March 12, 2018, 4:59 AM

Typhoons from the original Saudi batch have seen action over Yemen. (Photo: Jamie Hunter/Eurofighter)


On March 9 the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia signed a Memorandum of Intent (MoI) with the UK government to purchase 48 Eurofighter Typhoon swing-role fighters. Leading the sale on behalf of the Eurofighter partner companies, BAE Systems—along with the UK government—had been pursuing a follow-on Saudi buy for several years, having earlier sold 72 Typhoons to the Kingdom.

For the partner companies and their suppliers throughout Europe the deal, if finalized, represents a major boost, coming on top of a Qatari order for 24 Typhoons signed in December. Before the order Typhoon production at the BAE Systems Warton plant had been expected to shut down in 2022 without further orders, but the two new deals secure thousands of jobs for several more years.

Signed in London by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the MoI is for an order that would be worth more than £10 billion if concluded. “The Crown Prince’s visit has opened a new chapter in our two countries' historic relationship,” said Gavin Williamson, UK defence secretary. “We have taken a vital step toward finalizing another order for Typhoon jets that will increase security in the Middle East and boost British industry and jobs in our unrivaled aerospace sector.”

BAE Systems CEO Charles Woodburn noted that the company is “committed to supporting the Kingdom as it modernizes the Saudi Armed Forces and develops key industrial capabilities critical to the delivery of Vision 2030,” the Kingdom’s economic diversification and social reform strategy. This has raised speculation about the part Saudi industry could play in production of the aircraft. Plans for the 2007 order for 72 Typhoons included later aircraft being assembled in Saudi Arabia, but they were all completed on the Warton final assembly line. However, some work on the 22 BAE Systems Hawk advanced trainers ordered by the Royal Saudi Air Force is undertaken in the Kingdom.

If concluded, this agreement is expected to cover Typhoons equipped to the very latest standard, at least as capable as those currently being produced for Kuwait (a deal for 28 aircraft that was headed by Leonardo and the Italian government). Those aircraft are to be equipped with the Captor-E AESA radar and Pirate forward-looking infrared sensor. Weapon options for the Saudi Typhoons would likely include the Meteor, Storm Shadow, and Brimstone missiles from MBDA.

Meanwhile, Typhoon’s chances of landing an order from Malaysia appear to have improved following a remark by the country’s defense minister concerning the European Union’s intention to reduce imports of palm oil, Malaysia’s prime export product and one that has been used as part-payment for various defense programs. In a post-Brexit Europe this policy—if implemented—could place a British-led Typhoon campaign at a distinct advantage over its French rival, the Dassault Rafale.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2018-03-12/green-light-follow-saudi-typhoon-deal

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Green Light for Follow-on Saudi Typhoon Deal

- March 12, 2018, 4:59 AM

Typhoons from the original Saudi batch have seen action over Yemen. (Photo: Jamie Hunter/Eurofighter)


On March 9 the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia signed a Memorandum of Intent (MoI) with the UK government to purchase 48 Eurofighter Typhoon swing-role fighters. Leading the sale on behalf of the Eurofighter partner companies, BAE Systems—along with the UK government—had been pursuing a follow-on Saudi buy for several years, having earlier sold 72 Typhoons to the Kingdom.

For the partner companies and their suppliers throughout Europe the deal, if finalized, represents a major boost, coming on top of a Qatari order for 24 Typhoons signed in December. Before the order Typhoon production at the BAE Systems Warton plant had been expected to shut down in 2022 without further orders, but the two new deals secure thousands of jobs for several more years.

Signed in London by Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, the MoI is for an order that would be worth more than £10 billion if concluded. “The Crown Prince’s visit has opened a new chapter in our two countries' historic relationship,” said Gavin Williamson, UK defence secretary. “We have taken a vital step toward finalizing another order for Typhoon jets that will increase security in the Middle East and boost British industry and jobs in our unrivaled aerospace sector.”

BAE Systems CEO Charles Woodburn noted that the company is “committed to supporting the Kingdom as it modernizes the Saudi Armed Forces and develops key industrial capabilities critical to the delivery of Vision 2030,” the Kingdom’s economic diversification and social reform strategy. This has raised speculation about the part Saudi industry could play in production of the aircraft. Plans for the 2007 order for 72 Typhoons included later aircraft being assembled in Saudi Arabia, but they were all completed on the Warton final assembly line. However, some work on the 22 BAE Systems Hawk advanced trainers ordered by the Royal Saudi Air Force is undertaken in the Kingdom.

If concluded, this agreement is expected to cover Typhoons equipped to the very latest standard, at least as capable as those currently being produced for Kuwait (a deal for 28 aircraft that was headed by Leonardo and the Italian government). Those aircraft are to be equipped with the Captor-E AESA radar and Pirate forward-looking infrared sensor. Weapon options for the Saudi Typhoons would likely include the Meteor, Storm Shadow, and Brimstone missiles from MBDA.

Meanwhile, Typhoon’s chances of landing an order from Malaysia appear to have improved following a remark by the country’s defense minister concerning the European Union’s intention to reduce imports of palm oil, Malaysia’s prime export product and one that has been used as part-payment for various defense programs. In a post-Brexit Europe this policy—if implemented—could place a British-led Typhoon campaign at a distinct advantage over its French rival, the Dassault Rafale.

https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/defense/2018-03-12/green-light-follow-saudi-typhoon-deal

That competition would include the US, which is hoping to sell the F-35 into additional markets; and France and Germany, which are also reported to be in discussions about developing a new combat aircraft. In fact, Bagwell said, countries including India, Korea and Turkey are all technologically “in the foothills” of generating new combat aircraft. These are all countries to which the UK might be hoping to sell Tempest, along with its existing export base which includes Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Australia, so these are countries which are probably among the potential partners with which Williamson, the Ministry of Defence and BAE Systems hope to be commencing discussions.
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/tempest-combat-aircraft/

 

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Saudi Arabia Qatar Jordan UAE finally put a footprint into the defence industry world but the only missing ones are Oman and Kuwait


That competition would include the US, which is hoping to sell the F-35 into additional markets; and France and Germany, which are also reported to be in discussions about developing a new combat aircraft. In fact, Bagwell said, countries including India, Korea and Turkey are all technologically “in the foothills” of generating new combat aircraft. These are all countries to which the UK might be hoping to sell Tempest, along with its existing export base which includes Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Australia, so these are countries which are probably among the potential partners with which Williamson, the Ministry of Defence and BAE Systems hope to be commencing discussions.
https://www.theengineer.co.uk/tempest-combat-aircraft/

They are in too, bur still embryonic like Qatar.. Hope to see Iraq back big time and better than before..

 

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They are in too, bur still embryonic like Qatar.. Hope to see Iraq back big time and better than before..

Britain and Saudi Arabia have discussed co-investing in developing a next-generation fighter jet and drone, as part of a £5bn Typhoon deal.

On Friday, defence secretary Gavin Williamson and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman agreed the outline of a deal for Saudi Arabia to buy 48 Eurofighter Typhoon jets. That deal, which would follow the kingdom’s purchase of 72 of the aircraft in 2007, would help preserve skills at BAE Systems’ Warton factory in Lancashire.

Talks are also understood to have focused on developing aircraft that will eventually replace the Typhoon. A joint statement from the two governments said they had agreed a number of defence collaborations to “deepen and broaden co-operation”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/saudis-eye-drones-in-typhoon-deal-6sm8fl7tr

 

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Britain and Saudi Arabia have discussed co-investing in developing a next-generation fighter jet and drone, as part of a £5bn Typhoon deal.

On Friday, defence secretary Gavin Williamson and Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman agreed the outline of a deal for Saudi Arabia to buy 48 Eurofighter Typhoon jets. That deal, which would follow the kingdom’s purchase of 72 of the aircraft in 2007, would help preserve skills at BAE Systems’ Warton factory in Lancashire.

Talks are also understood to have focused on developing aircraft that will eventually replace the Typhoon. A joint statement from the two governments said they had agreed a number of defence collaborations to “deepen and broaden co-operation”.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/saudis-eye-drones-in-typhoon-deal-6sm8fl7tr

Yes, that would be the tempest and most likely the Taranis

 

[Swordbreaker12]

They are in too, bur still embryonic like Qatar.. Hope to see Iraq back big time and better than before..

But Qatar is in talks with the uk and turkey over a 5th gen aircraft

Yes, that would be the tempest and most likely the Taranis

The tempest doesn't look bad but I think there will be versions and variants for both countries

 

[The SC]

But Qatar is in talks with the uk and turkey over a 5th gen aircraft

To buy a share in its development.. no to participate.. it does bot have the HR to do that..

Most likely the same variant..just like the Typhoon now..

 

[Swordbreaker12]

They are in too, bur still embryonic like Qatar.. Hope to see Iraq back big time and better than before..

You can forget iraq! Iraq is now a shi t hole and full of uncivilized people

To buy a share in its development.. no to participate.. it does bot have the HR to do that..

Most likely the same variant..just like the Typhoon now..

Russia's Rostec and the United Arab Emirates Ministry of Defence is set to co-develop a fifth-generation fighter, Rostec CEO Sergey Chemezov said at IDEX in Abu Dhabi, according to news reports. This effort would start in 2018 and could take about eight years.

 

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You can forget iraq! Iraq is now a shi t hole and full of uncivilized people

I can understand that after a very long war.. but Iraq had a lot of very qualified scientists now spread out all over the world.. So in time.. it will get up on its feet again..

Yeah, those were very good news about a light weight 5th generation fighter, to be developed with Mig and Soukhoi bureaus.. it has already started!

 

[Swordbreaker12]

I can understand that after a very long war.. but Iraq had a lot of very qualified scientists now spread out all over the world.. So in time.. it will get up on its feet again..

Inshallah

I can understand that after a very long war.. but Iraq had a lot of very qualified scientists now spread out all over the world.. So in time.. it will get up on its feet again..

But in 50 years

 

[The SC]

Inshallah


But in 50 years

Much less than that Inshallah.. it just needs a sound plan and the political will, all the needed resources are there already and some need to be redeveloped like HR.. but that takes 10 to 15 years not more..