France says it cannot deliver Mistral warship to Russia over Ukraine

[Aitreyan]

France is sending a bad image for potential customers who doesn't want their supply to be influenced by US lobbying

 

[gau8av]

France is sending a bad image for potential customers who doesn't want their supply to be influenced by US lobbying

if it were up to me I'd threaten to cancel the Rafales and go for mig 35 instead

**** NATO, support Russia against against western aggression

 

[notgoodenough]

Wow. Just wow. Ive never met someone whose head was so far up uncle sams asshole. Congratulations. Your inane babble was truly worthless. Now seriously. Your delusions of grandeur really have no place on this forum little boy but keep dreaming of an empire long ago wasted away. If it makes you sleep better at night.

Youre too stupid and vacuous to continue any further. Go back to remedial history economics geo politics etc.

Another ignorant nato troll ignored.......

The US is widely regarded as the sole superpower of the world, and has been for over two decades. No other country has the geopolitical influence or comprehensive power of the United States. I have no need to qualify it, because it is a well understood fact. The US as a "dying brand" is not only asinine, but laughable. The US is still by far the country where foreigners would like to immigrate to. Referring to a Gallup poll in 2012, 150 million potential immigrants said they would like to immigrate to the US. The UK came in a distant second at 45 million. The US naturalizes nearly 700,000 citizens every year. Whether it is our tech companies(Apple, Google, Microsoft, Amazon, IBM, Intel), social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram), or entertainment (Hollywood, TV shows, Netflix, Disney, music), the US brand is strong and flourishing. The rest of your post is just worthless dreck from an anti-american clown.

 

[Beidou2020]

People have predicted the decline of the dollar since the early 70's. Nearly 90% of daily trade in foreign exchange markets is done with the US dollar. I wouldn't hold my breath for a change in reserve currency anytime soon. While I applaud China for their economic growth, it has largely been based off heavy investment and cheap exports. That model of growth is quickly coming to an end. Can China successfully transition to a consumption based and thereby healthier economy? It's difficult to say, considering their rapid debt buildup, addiction to credit, and housing market downturn. The IMF warned in its annual report that China's growth could plummet to 3.5% by 2020 if reform is not hastened. This is on top of China's other issues such as demographics and its atrocious environment. Clearly, China's economy has significant issues to deal with.

90% of foreign exchange isn't done in dollars you clown .
Foreign exchange has two currencies, so its divided by 200%, not 100%.
The world didn't have a need to move to alternative currencies until recently as the US has declined as an economic power in GDP and trade especially since 2008. US crashed in 2008 and it was only since then countries have decided to have other currencies. China didn't reform the RMB until the 2008 crash.

As economic power shifts, so does global financial power. Chinese RMB is also the 9th largest forex trading currency even without opening up. China is starting to do the necessary financial reforms to set the stage to destroy the dollar. Once China sets up the CIPS payment clearing system, and set up more direct trading between currencies, the RMB usage will rise dramatically as countries want to hold RMB to reduce trade and investment costs with China.

As other countries start doing more trade and investment in their own currencies and open up the foreign exchange market, dollar will lose marketshare. The entire US power depends on the dollar having a huge marketshare to absorb dollar liquidity to keep US inflation low, any gain in RMB and other currencies mean the US will lose the ability to print and have low inflation as it has less marketshare globally.

Economic growth is based on investment and trade. There is no such thing as consumption-based growth. Consumption is a result of investment and trade growth. Chinese exports are now moving to up the technological ladder and more Chinese private companies take up the share of manufacturing in China. Manufacturing in China is now serving the domestic market as the consumption in being done in China as a result of large investment.

Debt in China is used to grow the economy by building infrastructure and building factories that give value in the future, whereas in the US debt is used to consume depreciating consumer goods giving no future return. IMF have been calling for the collapse of China for 30 years and they have been wrong for 30 years.

Chinese demographic problems are being sorted with relaxing the 1 child policy and raising the retirement age to 70. Automation is also replacing labour in manufacturing as wages rise which increase consumption as the service sector expands which contributes more labour absorption per unit of GDP.

Your ignorance is painful and shameful to your fellow Americans.
smh

The US problems are what the Soviet Union had during the 1980's. The list is too long.

Wow. Just wow. Ive never met someone whose head was so far up uncle sams asshole. Congratulations. Your inane babble was truly worthless. Now seriously. Your delusions of grandeur really have no place on this forum little boy but keep dreaming of an empire long ago wasted away. If it makes you sleep better at night.

Youre too stupid and vacuous to continue any further. Go back to remedial history economics geo politics etc.

Another ignorant nato troll ignored.......

His ignorance is the very reason the US has so many problems and is in rapid decline.

 

[My-Analogous]

I don't think Britain ever had tech superiority over Americans, did they?

Can you please tell me who is the inventor of Jet engine, X Ray machines ? and list is going on and on

 

[F-22Raptor]

Wow. Just wow. Ive never met someone whose head was so far up uncle sams asshole. Congratulations. Your inane babble was truly worthless. Now seriously. Your delusions of grandeur really have no place on this forum little boy but keep dreaming of an empire long ago wasted away. If it makes you sleep better at night.

Youre too stupid and vacuous to continue any further. Go back to remedial history economics geo politics etc.

Another ignorant nato troll ignored.......

Is this really the best you could come up with? You cite how the US is a "dying brand" and I specifically stated with facts how that's not the case. Then you counter with petty insults that adds nothing significant to the debate. Whose the troll now? Your a bag of hot air, and ultimately a waste of my time.

 

[F-22Raptor]

90% of foreign exchange isn't done in dollars you clown .
Foreign exchange has two currencies, so its divided by 200%, not 100%.
The world didn't have a need to move to alternative currencies until recently as the US has declined as an economic power in GDP and trade especially since 2008. US crashed in 2008 and it was only since then countries have decided to have other currencies. China didn't reform the RMB until the 2008 crash.

As economic power shifts, so does global financial power. Chinese RMB is also the 9th largest forex trading currency even without opening up. China is starting to do the necessary financial reforms to set the stage to destroy the dollar. Once China sets up the CIPS payment clearing system, and set up more direct trading between currencies, the RMB usage will rise dramatically as countries want to hold RMB to reduce trade and investment costs with China.

As other countries start doing more trade and investment in their own currencies and open up the foreign exchange market, dollar will lose marketshare. The entire US power depends on the dollar having a huge marketshare to absorb dollar liquidity to keep US inflation low, any gain in RMB and other currencies mean the US will lose the ability to print and have low inflation as it has less marketshare globally.

Economic growth is based on investment and trade. There is no such thing as consumption-based growth. Consumption is a result of investment and trade growth. Chinese exports are now moving to up the technological ladder and more Chinese private companies take up the share of manufacturing in China. Manufacturing in China is now serving the domestic market as the consumption in being done in China as a result of large investment.

Debt in China is used to grow the economy by building infrastructure and building factories that give value in the future, whereas in the US debt is used to consume depreciating consumer goods giving no future return. IMF have been calling for the collapse of China for 30 years and they have been wrong for 30 years.

Chinese demographic problems are being sorted with relaxing the 1 child policy and raising the retirement age to 70. Automation is also replacing labour in manufacturing as wages rise which increase consumption as the service sector expands which contributes more labour absorption per unit of GDP.

Your ignorance is painful and shameful to your fellow Americans.
smh

The US problems are what the Soviet Union had during the 1980's. The list is too long.



His ignorance is the very reason the US has so many problems and is in rapid decline.

The fact of the matter is that the US dollar is still the dominate currency of the world, and it's not really close. The RMB is not even in the picture. That's not going to change anytime soon. The current model of growth in China is rapidly coming to an end. Even CPC officials have openly admitted that multiple times. It's why we hear the term "reform" so often regarding the Chinese economy. China's growth continues to slow year by year. We're seeing cracks developing in the Chinese economy, which include the out of control shadow banking system, debt that is soaring, infrastructure and inventory overcapacity, endemic corruption, and housing market that continues to disappoint. China's upcoming demographic problems are significant. A huge aging population will be a great burden upon China's health and social programs. The CPC can attempt to manage it all they want, but you can't slow the aging process. With China's growth, the environment has been practically destroyed. China's own environment minister called it "embarrassing." A "middle income trap" is also a real concern that could blunt growth. The fact is that China has immense challenges of their own. I didn't even mention the fact that the CPC is an authoritarian regime who spends a huge amount of money and effort on propaganda and its "internal security", which we all know is a term for oppressing and controlling its people. China's government is a disgrace to freedom loving people around the world.

The only person who is shameful here is yourself. You've been called out here by Chinese members over the fact that your an American with German heritage. Your not Chinese and never will be. You've manged to rack up 18 negative ratings, and a multitude of bans. I know that you have multiple accounts here, at least 3 I know of. Your no better than the wu maos that troll the net. I'm shocked your still allowed to post here.

 

[FNFAL]

I always knew france had a different outlook from NATO in world affairs...afaik thats why they moved out of NATo under degaulle..dunno what happened that caused this teutonic shift ??

 

[Beidou2020]

The fact of the matter is that the US dollar is still the dominate currency of the world, and it's not really close. The RMB is not even in the picture. That's not going to change anytime soon. The current model of growth in China is rapidly coming to an end. Even CPC officials have openly admitted that multiple times. It's why we hear the term "reform" so often regarding the Chinese economy. China's growth continues to slow year by year. We're seeing cracks developing in the Chinese economy, which include the out of control shadow banking system, debt that is soaring, infrastructure and inventory overcapacity, endemic corruption, and housing market that continues to disappoint. China's upcoming demographic problems are significant. A huge aging population will be a great burden upon China's health and social programs. The CPC can attempt to manage it all they want, but you can't slow the aging process. With China's growth, the environment has been practically destroyed. China's own environment minister called it "embarrassing." A "middle income trap" is also a real concern that could blunt growth. The fact is that China has immense challenges of their own. I didn't even mention the fact that the CPC is an authoritarian regime who spends a huge amount of money and effort on propaganda and its "internal security", which we all know is a term for oppressing and controlling its people. China's government is a disgrace to freedom loving people around the world.

The only person who is shameful here is yourself. You've been called out here by Chinese members over the fact that your an American with German heritage. Your not Chinese and never will be. You've manged to rack up 18 negative ratings, and a multitude of bans. I know that you have multiple accounts here, at least 3 I know of. Your no better than the wu maos that troll the net. I'm shocked your still allowed to post here.

The entire US economy is a giant ponzi scheme full of bubbles. The US has 3 massive debt-induced bubbles right now in the form of the reinflated housing bubble, the stock bubble and the truly dangerous bond bubble.

The US has had no actual growth whatsoever since the financial crash which is why the entire US economy still needs 0% interest rates and massive QE every year to prop up the ponzi scheme. You don't have 0% unless you got major structural problems in the economy similar to Japan. The fact that interest rates are 0% shows all you need to know about the true state of the US ponzi scheme.

The reason the US can't raise interest rates is because the US has too much debt and any increase in interest rates will push up bond yields and the funding of the Yankee regime to fund its genocide of children all over the world will be devastated. Corporate borrowing costs will rise rapidly which will crush the margins. Corporates have been borrowing money on the cheap to buyback shares to increase the earrings and boost stock prices and increase investor confidence. The entire fate of the US ponzi scheme depends on having 0% interest rates because if the stock, housing and bond bubbles burst, the collapse of the US will be so massive it will make the 2008 collapse look like a sunday school picnic.

The US labour force participation is at historic lows because the US economic foundation has been permanently destroyed. This is why nearly all the jobs created are low wage temporary jobs. This problem will get worse, not better.

The US is one of the fastest ageing societies which has caused a massive burden on the regime's finances and this process will get worse as more money will need to go towards taking care of the ageing population.The US regime knows it has no choice but to fund the welfare state to keep the black and latinos under control or you will see a continued rise in crime as mass unemployment leads to riots like in Ferguson and massive ethnic unrest between blacks, whites and latinos.

This is why the heinous and repulsive US regime want to use its propaganda machine to brainwash the population by creating foreign enemies in Russia, ISIS and China to distract from the staggering domestic problems such as staggering increase in crime, increase in teen pregnancies, heavily debt burdened society, increase in suicides, decrease in wages, loss of good paying jobs and a quite staggering decrease in the standard of living.

This is why the police in US cities are pretty much armed like military due to the anticipation of a Soviet style economic collapse once the bubble burst and the ponzi scheme unravels and the riots that will take place.

The US is like the Soviet Union in 1985. From the front you see nothing wrong to the brainwashed mind, but to the informed person, you can easily see the internal rot. Once the economy has collapsed, so doe the military as they run out of money to operate, maintain and upgrade the expensive weapons. No money = no military. Just ask the Soviet Union.

The US has a cancer and because the elites see their demise, the regime has decided to go rogue and turn into a fascist terror machine going on a genocidal killing spree like a psychopathic serial killer.

The end is nigh for the human butchering regime

 

[notgoodenough]

Excellent post brother. You know a thing or two about a thing or two.

The entire US economy is a giant ponzi scheme full of bubbles. The US has 3 massive debt-induced bubbles right now in the form of the reinflated housing bubble, the stock bubble and the truly dangerous bond bubble.

The US has had no actual growth whatsoever since the financial crash which is why the entire US economy still needs 0% interest rates and massive QE every year to prop up the ponzi scheme. You don't have 0% unless you got major structural problems in the economy similar to Japan. The fact that interest rates are 0% shows all you need to know about the true state of the US ponzi scheme.

The reason the US can't raise interest rates is because the US has too much debt and any increase in interest rates will push up bond yields and the funding of the Yankee regime to fund its genocide of children all over the world will be devastated. Corporate borrowing costs will rise rapidly which will crush the margins. Corporates have been borrowing money on the cheap to buyback shares to increase the earrings and boost stock prices and increase investor confidence. The entire fate of the US ponzi scheme depends on having 0% interest rates because if the stock, housing and bond bubbles burst, the collapse of the US will be so massive it will make the 2008 collapse look like a sunday school picnic.

The US labour force participation is at historic lows because the US economic foundation has been permanently destroyed. This is why nearly all the jobs created are low wage temporary jobs. This problem will get worse, not better.

The US is one of the fastest ageing societies which has caused a massive burden on the regime's finances and this process will get worse as more money will need to go towards taking care of the ageing population.The US regime knows it has no choice but to fund the welfare state to keep the black and latinos under control or you will see a continued rise in crime as mass unemployment leads to riots like in Ferguson and massive ethnic unrest between blacks, whites and latinos.

This is why the heinous and repulsive US regime want to use its propaganda machine to brainwash the population by creating foreign enemies in Russia, ISIS and China to distract from the staggering domestic problems such as staggering increase in crime, increase in teen pregnancies, heavily debt burdened society, increase in suicides, decrease in wages, loss of good paying jobs and a quite staggering decrease in the standard of living.

This is why the police in US cities are pretty much armed like military due to the anticipation of a Soviet style economic collapse once the bubble burst and the ponzi scheme unravels and the riots that will take place.

The US is like the Soviet Union in 1985. From the front you see nothing wrong to the brainwashed mind, but to the informed person, you can easily see the internal rot. Once the economy has collapsed, so doe the military as they run out of money to operate, maintain and upgrade the expensive weapons. No money = no military. Just ask the Soviet Union.

The US has a cancer and because the elites see their demise, the regime has decided to go rogue and turn into a fascist terror machine going on a genocidal killing spree like a psychopathic serial killer.

The end is nigh for the human butchering regime

 

[flamer84]

I always knew france had a different outlook from NATO in world affairs...afaik thats why they moved out of NATo under degaulle..dunno what happened that caused this teutonic shift ??

A sovereign European nation has been invaded by the uncivilised eastern horde.

 

[IndoUS]

All chest thumping aside, this will be temprory, main reason being this is an enormous deal and if France backs down then it would look bad for their future sales of military equipment. Plus in the end the European defense industry isn't all high right now and scrapping this deal would be like shooting themselves in the foot.

 

[gau8av]

A sovereign European nation has been invaded by the uncivilised eastern horde.

this is what a CIA sponsored neo nazi coup results in:

 

[MarkusS]

I think what many here don´t understand is simply that russia behavior is not european by any means. We are responsible for our own security. Russia attacks and opresses ukraine. Who knows if they dont attack Latvia or estonia or even poland next? Some morons here justify to ignore evrything with business. I arther sleep with an additional pullover in winter than to knee infront russian barbarism.

Lets face reality. Putin guessed that NATO nations, EU and USA would not work together and he could pull his stunt easily. He miscalculated.

We chose to have no business with russia. Its evryones own decssion with who you don business. Nobody can force us to do business with him. I see this als chance. To be dependend on russian gas is an security risk and i see this a chance to erase this and correct it.

Russia is a security risk for Europe and i don´t see how we would profit with selling weapons to our enemy.

 

[Aepsilons]

I think what many here don´t understand is simply that russia behavior is not european by any means. We are responsible for our own security. Russia attacks and opresses ukraine. Who knows if they dont attack Latvia or estonia or even poland next? Some morons here justify to ignore evrything with business. I arther sleep with an additional pullover in winter than to knee infront russian barbarism.

Lets face reality. Putin guessed that NATO nations, EU and USA would not work together and he could pull his stunt easily. He miscalculated.

We chose to have no business with russia. Its evryones own decssion with who you don business. Nobody can force us to do business with him. I see this als chance. To be dependend on russian gas is an security risk and i see this a chance to erase this and correct it.

Russia is a security risk for Europe and i don´t see how we would profit with selling weapons to our enemy.

Bonjourno Markus!

Do you know if any other European nation is looking to buy the Mistrals? You think the Italian Navy is looking to acquire it?

The fact of the matter is that the US dollar is still the dominate currency of the world, and it's not really close. The RMB is not even in the picture. That's not going to change anytime soon. The current model of growth in China is rapidly coming to an end. Even CPC officials have openly admitted that multiple times. It's why we hear the term "reform" so often regarding the Chinese economy. China's growth continues to slow year by year. We're seeing cracks developing in the Chinese economy, which include the out of control shadow banking system, debt that is soaring, infrastructure and inventory overcapacity, endemic corruption, and housing market that continues to disappoint. China's upcoming demographic problems are significant. A huge aging population will be a great burden upon China's health and social programs. The CPC can attempt to manage it all they want, but you can't slow the aging process. With China's growth, the environment has been practically destroyed. China's own environment minister called it "embarrassing." A "middle income trap" is also a real concern that could blunt growth. The fact is that China has immense challenges of their own. I didn't even mention the fact that the CPC is an authoritarian regime who spends a huge amount of money and effort on propaganda and its "internal security", which we all know is a term for oppressing and controlling its people. China's government is a disgrace to freedom loving people around the world.

The only person who is shameful here is yourself. You've been called out here by Chinese members over the fact that your an American with German heritage. Your not Chinese and never will be. You've manged to rack up 18 negative ratings, and a multitude of bans. I know that you have multiple accounts here, at least 3 I know of. Your no better than the wu maos that troll the net. I'm shocked your still allowed to post here.

Well said, @F-22Raptor -- there are indeed many indices of want that are disconcerting to foreign investors. However, so long as China remains a cheap manufacturing source for investors, and so long as we enjoy profits, its only realistic to keep some production in China. It would also be wise for foreign corporations to consider relocating some production facilities from China to other cheaper , fairly safe environments-- ASEAN, South Asia.

To quote the old adage, "Never put one's eggs in one basket."