France recalls ambassador to Turkey after Erdoğan questions Macron's mental state

[JackFell]

Leave

Naahh bruv, if you want to piss off the french

Stay and multiply

The money stolen during the colonial period was used to build up France, UK etc the least they can do is make use of it

What money was stolen? Can you actually tell me more about this? Money is just paper, it doesn't really count for much as far as nation states go, you cannot do much with paper as paper does not build buildings, roads and whatnot.

Did the Europeans also steal the ability to build a functioning society from these natives?

They will go back to their countries only after France pays compensation for crimes commited against Arabs during colonial period including brutal murder of 1,5 million Algerians during the War of Independence

What was the point of the War of Independence if Algerians were going to go to France to live under French Rule once more?

 

[GWXP]

What money was stolen? Can you actually tell me more about this? Money is just paper, it doesn't really count for much as far as nation states go, you cannot do much with paper as paper does not build buildings, roads and whatnot.

Did the Europeans also steal the ability to build a functioning society from these natives?


What was the point of the War of Independence if Algerians were going to go to France to live under French Rule once more?

The point is that millions of French colonists lived in Algeria during the colonial period...now it is Algerian turn

 

[JackFell]

The point is that millions of French colonists lived in Algeria during the colonial period...now it is Algerian turn

French made beautiful cities in Algeria while Algerians in France just riot and generally make the place worse. Kind of petty of you to return the gift of European colonisation with pure anger and malice. This is not good for your mental health you know.

 

[hussain0216]

What money was stolen? Can you actually tell me more about this? Money is just paper, it doesn't really count for much as far as nation states go, you cannot do much with paper as paper does not build buildings, roads and whatnot.

Did the Europeans also steal the ability to build a functioning society from these natives?


What was the point of the War of Independence if Algerians were going to go to France to live under French Rule once more?

In terms of resources, colonial states stole the equivalent of TRILLIONS

From colonies such as India, Africa etc

These countries were built up on the back of the resources and human suffering of the people from these colonies


This is all things you can research and look into

Their resources, blood, sweat and tears built up France (UK etc) and now those very same colonial subjects are now in those countries

French made beautiful cities in Algeria while Algerians in France just riot and generally make the place worse. Kind of petty of you to return the gift of European colonisation with pure anger and malice. This is not good for your mental health you know.

The colonial period was brutal, murderous, full of destruction, rape and slaughter

A city or road is not compensation

 

[JackFell]

In terms of resources, colonial states stole the equivalent of TRILLIONS

From colonies such as India, Africa etc

These countries were built up on the back of the resources and human suffering of the people from these colonies


This is all things you can research and look into

Their resources, blood, sweat and tears built up France (UK etc) and now those very same colonial subjects are now in those countries

By "built up" I can only assume you mean developed with all the infrastructure and whatnot. The truth is that Europe was always developed and had grand buildings and structures before colonisation of the Global South.

As for the resources, the natives of those countries were making as much use of those resources as the local wildlife such as the lions and zebra and elephants. Should we be paying reparations to animals as well?

Look at Pakistan and India today, some of the best buildings are due to the British, we also gave you the English language and a civil service allowing you to form coherent nation states.

 

[GWXP]

What money was stolen? Can you actually tell me more about this? Money is just paper, it doesn't really count for much as far as nation states go, you cannot do much with paper as paper does not build buildings, roads and whatnot.

Did the Europeans also steal the ability to build a functioning society from these natives?

You Europeans and British in particular exploited your colonies as source of raw materials and market for final goods.

For example in 19th century British colonial policies bankrupted Indian textile industry and millions of Indians died from hunger----Industrialization of Britain was possible only because of unfair trade with its colonies especially India. British colonial policies also resulted in Bengal Famine in 1943 with several millions of dead Indians-----so why don't you pay a compensation for your crimes before demanding migrants to leave?

Did the Europeans also steal the ability to build a functioning society from these natives?

Yes....all these states like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq are artificial states created by the British and French

For example in Syria, French put minority Alawites in power and you see the consequences today---Syrian Civil War with millions of refugees flooding Europe

 

[hussain0216]

By "built up" I can only assume you mean developed with all the infrastructure and whatnot. The truth is that Europe was always developed and had grand buildings and structures before colonisation of the Global South.

As for the resources, the natives of those countries were making as much use of those resources as the local wildlife such as the lions and zebra and elephants. Should we be paying reparations to animals as well?

Look at Pakistan and India today, some of the best buildings are due to the British, we also gave you the English language and a civil service allowing you to form coherent nation states.

Alot of Europe was shit, let's be honest

You made a excuse for theft of people's resources to build up colonial powers

Pre Partition India had plenty of culture, history and buildings

You weren't doing us a favour by stealing trillions





The consequences of your actions however was the migration you see before you, a bit late to complain now

 

[GWXP]

French made beautiful cities in Algeria while Algerians in France just riot and generally make the place worse. Kind of petty of you to return the gift of European colonisation with pure anger and malice. This is not good for your mental health you know.

All former colonial masters claim that they brought "development" in their colonies---pure LIE....they exploited their colonies to the maximum degree possible.

French ruled Algeria for 140 years----and in 140 years they built couple of building and one road and you call it "beautiful cities" lol

 

[JackFell]

You Europeans and British in particular exploited your colonies as source of raw materials and market for final goods.

For example in 19th century British colonial policies bankrupted Indian textile industry and millions of Indians died from hunger----Industrialization of Britain was possible only because of unfair trade with its colonies especially India. British colonial policies also resulted in Bengal Famine in 1943 with several millions of dead Indians-----so why don't you pay a compensation for your crimes before demanding migrants to leave?


Yes....all these states like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq are artificial states created by the British and French

For example in Syria, French put minority Alawites in power and you see the consequences today---Syrian Civil War with millions of refugees flooding Europe

I agree that Europeans drew the borders of these countries badly without taking into account ethnic and sectarian considerations.

As for you comment about the Indian textile industry, the fact is textile production went up massively due to the power loom and many English people lost their jobs due to them being outsourced to the colonies. This is why so many Indians and Africans put on the British uniform, the British were by far the most benevolent colonisers in history.

 

[GWXP]

By "built up" I can only assume you mean developed with all the infrastructure and whatnot. The truth is that Europe was always developed and had grand buildings and structures before colonisation of the Global South.

As for the resources, the natives of those countries were making as much use of those resources as the local wildlife such as the lions and zebra and elephants. Should we be paying reparations to animals as well?

Look at Pakistan and India today, some of the best buildings are due to the British, we also gave you the English language and a civil service allowing you to form coherent nation states.

Actually India was the biggest economy in the world prior to British colonization....The wealth of the East--this is what forced you to come to India hundreds years ago--isn't it?

 

[hussain0216]

You Europeans and British in particular exploited your colonies as source of raw materials and market for final goods.

For example in 19th century British colonial policies bankrupted Indian textile industry and millions of Indians died from hunger----Industrialization of Britain was possible only because of unfair trade with its colonies especially India. British colonial policies also resulted in Bengal Famine in 1943 with several millions of dead Indians-----so why don't you pay a compensation for your crimes before demanding migrants to leave?


Yes....all these states like Syria, Lebanon, Iraq are artificial states created by the British and French

For example in Syria, French put minority Alawites in power and you see the consequences today---Syrian Civil War with millions of refugees flooding Europe

There were multiple states


The colonial powers not content with a century of theft and brutality


Purposely left open wounds in multiple states to cause chaos

Kashmir
Alewite in Syria
Israel
And then they keep doing it

Libya being a perfect example

Sure Ghaddaffi wasn't perfect, but Libya was a functional state with a decent quality of life for its people



Then look France and Britain come, to attack and cause destruction

Millions now suffering

Refugee crises


Then the fuckers complain about refugees

 

[JackFell]

Actually India was the biggest economy in the world prior to British colonization....The wealth of the East--this is what forced you to come to India hundreds years ago--isn't it?

This was before the Industrial Revolution, when world share of the GDP reflected the world population share, both India and China had around 50% of the world's population then hence the largest economies in the world.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Make sense why boycott France is trending.

French are total nutcases, besides what can we expect From a nation who have been promoting all sorts of degeneracies like sexual perversion, paedophilia racism and genocides and secular bigotry under the guise of freedom and art.

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[Marker]

France said it would recall its envoy to Turkey for consultations following “unacceptable” comments by the Turkish president, Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, that suggested his French counterpart, Emmanuel Macron, needed a mental health check-up.

In the highly unusual move, a French presidential official said the French ambassador to Turkey was being recalled from Ankara for consultations and would meet Macron to discuss the situation after Erdoğan’s outburst.

France and its Nato ally are at loggerheads over a range of issues, including maritime rights in the eastern Mediterranean, Libya, Syria and the escalating conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan over Nagorno-Karabakh.

Ankara has been particularly incensed by a campaign championed by Macron to protect France’s secular values against radical Islam, a debate given new impetus by the murder of a teacher who showed his class a cartoon of the prophet Mohammed.

“What can one say about a head of state who treats millions of members from different faith groups this way: first of all, have mental checks,” Erdoğan said in a televised address in the central Anatolian city of Kayseri.

“What’s the problem of the individual called Macron with Islam and with the Muslims?” Erdoğan asked.

“Macron needs mental treatment,” Erdoğan added, while indicating he did not expect the French leader to win a new mandate in 2022 elections.

Macron’s office responded sharply, calling the comments unacceptable.

“President Erdoğan’s comments are unacceptable. Excess and rudeness are not a method. We demand that Erdoğan change the course of his policy because it is dangerous in every respect,” the official told AFP.

The Elysee official, who asked not to be named, also said that France had noted “the absence of messages of condolence and support” from the Turkish president after the beheading of teacher Samuel Paty outside Paris.

The official also expressed concern over calls by Ankara for a boycott of French goods.

Macron this month described Islam as a religion “in crisis” worldwide and said the government would present a bill in December to strengthen a 1905 law that officially separated church and state in France.

He announced stricter oversight of schooling and better control over foreign funding of mosques.


But the debate over the role of Islam in France has hit a new intensity after the beheading of Paty, which prosecutors say was carried out by an 18-year-old Chechen who had contact with a jihadist in Syria.

Turkey is a majority Muslim but secular country which is a part of Nato but not the EU, where its membership ambition has stalled for decades over a range of disputes.

“You are constantly picking on Erdoğan. This will not earn you anything,” said the Turkish leader.

“There will be elections (in France) ... We will see your (Macron’s) fate. I don’t think he has a long way to go. Why? He has not achieved anything for France and he should do for himself.”

The other new rift between the two leaders is over Nagorno-Karabakh, a majority ethnic Armenian breakaway region inside Azerbaijan, which declared independence as the USSR fell, sparking a war in the early 1990s that claimed 30,000 lives.

Turkey is strongly backing Azerbaijan in the conflict but has denied allegations by Macron that Ankara has sent hundreds of Syrian militia fighters to help Azerbaijan.

Erdoğan on Saturday accused France – which along with Russia and the US co-chairs the Minsk Group tasked with resolving the conflict – of “being behind the disasters and the occupations in Azerbaijan”.

He also repeated previous claims that France, which has a strong Armenian community, is arming Yerevan. “You think you will restore peace with the arms you are sending to Armenians. You cannot because you are not honest.”

But the Elysee official said that Erdoğan had two months to reply to the demands for a change in stance and that it ends its “dangerous adventures” in the eastern Mediterranean and “irresponsible conduct” over Karabakh.

“Measures need to be taken by the end of the year,” said the official.

theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/25/france-recalls-ambassador-to-turkey-after-erdogan-questions-macrons-mental-state

It would have been better, if Erdogan threatened to declare war against France as one of the Ottoman ruler did against France for the same reason.

 

[Goenitz]

Look at Pakistan and India today

Imagine that an enlighten German saying that to you today, after occupying UK during WW2, in the corner of, say the Mall street..
that pre WW2 britain was a mess, we gave you autobahn, good automotives brands like Audi, BMW, etc @GWXP