Vergennes
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2014
- Messages
- 8,576
- Reaction score
- 61
- Country
- Location
France recalls ambassador to Italy over Rome’s ‘repeated attacks’
- Thread starter Vergennes
- Start date
Cell_DbZ
FULL MEMBER
- Joined
- Jun 7, 2017
- Messages
- 487
- Reaction score
- 2
- Country
- Location
Is this recalling for 'discussions' or a permanent one? I highly doubt it's the latter.
Europe is getting increasingly divided nowadays, for example, the French want to support a amendament for increased European say in Nord Stream 2, against Germany's and other countries' wishes (including Belgium).
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/france-ceases-support-germany-nord-stream-2-media-report
And then there's the increased authoritarianism of Hungary and Poland...
Europe is getting increasingly divided nowadays, for example, the French want to support a amendament for increased European say in Nord Stream 2, against Germany's and other countries' wishes (including Belgium).
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/france-ceases-support-germany-nord-stream-2-media-report
And then there's the increased authoritarianism of Hungary and Poland...
Kailash Kumar
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Oct 8, 2018
- Messages
- 4,643
- Reaction score
- -1
- Country
- Location
France tells Italy 'Basta! - withdraws envoy after war of words
John Irish, Crispian Balmer
FEBRUARY 7, 2019
PARIS/ROME (Reuters) - France recalled its ambassador to Italy on Thursday, a remarkable diplomatic split between neighbors and European Union allies, after what it described as “repeated, baseless” attacks by Italian political leaders against France.
The rupture, the first withdrawal of a French envoy to Rome since World War Two, was announced by the foreign ministry.
Diplomats said Paris acted after a series of insults from Italy, capped by Deputy Prime Minister Luigi di Maio’s decision this week to meet with members of France’s “yellow vest” movement, which has mounted a months-long and sometimes violent campaign against Macron.
“France has been, for several months, the target of repeated, baseless attacks and outrageous statements,” the foreign ministry said in a statement. “Having disagreements is one thing, but manipulating the relationship for electoral aims is another.”
Di Maio, head of the anti-establishment 5-Star movement, which is in a governing coalition with the far-right League, defended his meeting with the “yellow vests”, and drew a distinction between Macron and the French people.
“The French people are our friends and our ally,” he said. “President Macron has repeatedly lashed out against the Italian government for political reasons in view of the European elections,” he said, referring to a European Parliament vote in May that is expected to see a surge among populist parties.
“My meeting as the political leader of the 5-Star movement with members of the ‘yellow vests’... was fully legitimate. I claim the right to talk with other political forces that represent the French people.”
The 32-year-old Di Maio appears keen to cast himself as a youthful rival to Macron, 41, even as his approval rating falls at home.
Macron offered no immediate response to Di Maio.
He has spent much of the past month touring France in a “great debate” with citizens to try to lift his own approval ratings and regain the initiative in the face of the protests. While Thursday’s diplomatic action was going on, he was attending one such townhall meeting in the small eastern town of Etang-sur-Arroux.
France’s Europe minister, Nathalie Loiseau, said the decision to recall the ambassador was rare but necessary.
“There was behavior by a member of the Italian government that we consider unusual, unfriendly and that follows a number of official Italian statements that we find hard to understand in terms of how they help Franco-Italian relations,” she told France Info.
BASTA ITALIA!
Ties between the two traditionally close allies have grown increasingly tense since mid-2018, with Di Maio and his fellow deputy prime minister, Matteo Salvini of the League party, firing pot-shots at Macron and France, mostly over migration policy.
Macron has at times responded, criticizing Italy last June for its refusal to accept a boatload of migrants rescued in the Mediterranean, and taking aim at Rome’s public finances.
But in recent weeks the exchanges have grown sharper and more personal. Di Maio accused France last month of fuelling poverty in Africa, suggesting it was a neo-colonial power.
Salvini accused France of exploiting the unrest in Libya to benefit oil company Total, which competes with Italy’s ENI in the development of regional energy assets. He also said he hoped Macron’s party would lose in May’s European elections.
During a visit to Egypt last month, Macron sought to shrug off the sparring, calling Salvini and Di Maio’s comments “insignificant” and adding that he dealt only with Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte.
Conte, a political unknown who became prime minister last year as a compromise between Salvini and Di Maio, was caught on video at last month’s World Economic Forum in Davos discussing the dispute with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Italian TV channel La 7 broadcast footage a week ago showing the two leaders talking at a bar, with Conte telling Merkel that Di Maio was attacking France because he was down in the polls ahead of the European elections and needed an enemy.
“So they say what are the issues that can help us during the campaign... In the political campaign our friend is Germany and so we had to do the campaign against France,” he said, prompting laughter from Merkel.
TIME TO ‘TURN THE PAGE’?
Salvini sought to calm the tone on Thursday, saying he did not want to argue with France and was happy to meet Macron. As president, Macron would normally meet with other heads of state or government, not deputies.
“We are ready and willing, with a constructive spirit, to turn the page for the good of our people,” Salvini said.
But he added that France should address three issues: its policy of returning migrants to Italy, occasional border checks at the frontier, and the case of some 15 Italian leftists who have had refuge in France for decades.
While rare, the French action was not unprecedented among EU members. In 2016, Greece recalled its ambassador to Austria, and in 2017 Hungary withdrew its envoy to the Netherlands.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...uters/worldNews+(Reuters+World+News)&&rpc=401
John Irish, Crispian Balmer
FEBRUARY 7, 2019
PARIS/ROME (Reuters) - France recalled its ambassador to Italy on Thursday, a remarkable diplomatic split between neighbors and European Union allies, after what it described as “repeated, baseless” attacks by Italian political leaders against France.
The rupture, the first withdrawal of a French envoy to Rome since World War Two, was announced by the foreign ministry.
Diplomats said Paris acted after a series of insults from Italy, capped by Deputy Prime Minister Luigi di Maio’s decision this week to meet with members of France’s “yellow vest” movement, which has mounted a months-long and sometimes violent campaign against Macron.
“France has been, for several months, the target of repeated, baseless attacks and outrageous statements,” the foreign ministry said in a statement. “Having disagreements is one thing, but manipulating the relationship for electoral aims is another.”
Di Maio, head of the anti-establishment 5-Star movement, which is in a governing coalition with the far-right League, defended his meeting with the “yellow vests”, and drew a distinction between Macron and the French people.
“The French people are our friends and our ally,” he said. “President Macron has repeatedly lashed out against the Italian government for political reasons in view of the European elections,” he said, referring to a European Parliament vote in May that is expected to see a surge among populist parties.
“My meeting as the political leader of the 5-Star movement with members of the ‘yellow vests’... was fully legitimate. I claim the right to talk with other political forces that represent the French people.”
The 32-year-old Di Maio appears keen to cast himself as a youthful rival to Macron, 41, even as his approval rating falls at home.
Macron offered no immediate response to Di Maio.
He has spent much of the past month touring France in a “great debate” with citizens to try to lift his own approval ratings and regain the initiative in the face of the protests. While Thursday’s diplomatic action was going on, he was attending one such townhall meeting in the small eastern town of Etang-sur-Arroux.
France’s Europe minister, Nathalie Loiseau, said the decision to recall the ambassador was rare but necessary.
“There was behavior by a member of the Italian government that we consider unusual, unfriendly and that follows a number of official Italian statements that we find hard to understand in terms of how they help Franco-Italian relations,” she told France Info.
BASTA ITALIA!
Ties between the two traditionally close allies have grown increasingly tense since mid-2018, with Di Maio and his fellow deputy prime minister, Matteo Salvini of the League party, firing pot-shots at Macron and France, mostly over migration policy.
Macron has at times responded, criticizing Italy last June for its refusal to accept a boatload of migrants rescued in the Mediterranean, and taking aim at Rome’s public finances.
But in recent weeks the exchanges have grown sharper and more personal. Di Maio accused France last month of fuelling poverty in Africa, suggesting it was a neo-colonial power.
Salvini accused France of exploiting the unrest in Libya to benefit oil company Total, which competes with Italy’s ENI in the development of regional energy assets. He also said he hoped Macron’s party would lose in May’s European elections.
During a visit to Egypt last month, Macron sought to shrug off the sparring, calling Salvini and Di Maio’s comments “insignificant” and adding that he dealt only with Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte.
Conte, a political unknown who became prime minister last year as a compromise between Salvini and Di Maio, was caught on video at last month’s World Economic Forum in Davos discussing the dispute with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.
Italian TV channel La 7 broadcast footage a week ago showing the two leaders talking at a bar, with Conte telling Merkel that Di Maio was attacking France because he was down in the polls ahead of the European elections and needed an enemy.
“So they say what are the issues that can help us during the campaign... In the political campaign our friend is Germany and so we had to do the campaign against France,” he said, prompting laughter from Merkel.
TIME TO ‘TURN THE PAGE’?
Salvini sought to calm the tone on Thursday, saying he did not want to argue with France and was happy to meet Macron. As president, Macron would normally meet with other heads of state or government, not deputies.
“We are ready and willing, with a constructive spirit, to turn the page for the good of our people,” Salvini said.
But he added that France should address three issues: its policy of returning migrants to Italy, occasional border checks at the frontier, and the case of some 15 Italian leftists who have had refuge in France for decades.
While rare, the French action was not unprecedented among EU members. In 2016, Greece recalled its ambassador to Austria, and in 2017 Hungary withdrew its envoy to the Netherlands.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...uters/worldNews+(Reuters+World+News)&&rpc=401
Vergennes
ELITE MEMBER
- Joined
- Feb 25, 2014
- Messages
- 8,576
- Reaction score
- 61
- Country
- Location
Remake of Italian campaigns in a few weeks to make them show us some respect.
I believe it's the first time ambassadors from founding members were recalled,telling of the importance of the dispute.
Pakhtoon yum
BANNED
- Joined
- Dec 17, 2018
- Messages
- 5,532
- Reaction score
- 5
- Country
- Location
waz
ADMINISTRATOR
- Joined
- Sep 15, 2006
- Messages
- 21,159
- Reaction score
- 91
- Country
- Location
Rafales v Typhoons when's it happening @Vergennes ?
Are we expecting the Legion in Southern Italy? Oh my God where is Marcus hahahaha.
zectech
SENIOR MEMBER
- Joined
- Aug 12, 2018
- Messages
- 4,090
- Reaction score
- -3
- Country
- Location
Looks like Italy needs a military after all. But a negative on high speed rail to France.
No bread and circuses in Rome until the return of Julius Caesar.
Di Maio was simply trying to help out the French. The French fuhrer bites.
The idiotic yellow vests were drifting toward Le Pen and trump, according to the zionist plan. The Italians offer hope to the yellow vests, and Rothschild Macron attacks.
Macron will only tolerate jewish nazism under Macron or neo-nazis under Le Pen. No freedom for the french, it seems.
Buy some inferiorly made F-35s quick, Italy has a border enemy.
If Italy joined the Triple Alliance team in WWI, and thus the Central Powers, Italy would be in great shape today. Their betrayal of Germany is still hurting Italy to this day.
No bread and circuses in Rome until the return of Julius Caesar.
Di Maio was simply trying to help out the French. The French fuhrer bites.
The idiotic yellow vests were drifting toward Le Pen and trump, according to the zionist plan. The Italians offer hope to the yellow vests, and Rothschild Macron attacks.
Macron will only tolerate jewish nazism under Macron or neo-nazis under Le Pen. No freedom for the french, it seems.
Buy some inferiorly made F-35s quick, Italy has a border enemy.
If Italy joined the Triple Alliance team in WWI, and thus the Central Powers, Italy would be in great shape today. Their betrayal of Germany is still hurting Italy to this day.
KediKesenFare3
MEMBER
- Joined
- Apr 14, 2015
- Messages
- 4,264
- Reaction score
- 12
- Country
- Location
Mr. Erdo...*cough*...Macron is right. However, I like Italia more than France. So, I don't really care. This is just a minor conflict though, nothing really exciting.
Feng Leng
BANNED
- Joined
- Aug 3, 2017
- Messages
- 4,355
- Reaction score
- -21
- Country
- Location
Italy is pro-China. The French have lost their De Gaule tradition of carving out a path independent of USA.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PW0LV
With China's help, the Italians may reconstitute the Holy Roman Empire and bring peace and prosperity to continental Europe at least.
https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1PW0LV
With China's help, the Italians may reconstitute the Holy Roman Empire and bring peace and prosperity to continental Europe at least.
Similar threads
Latest posts
-
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
Pakistan Affairs Latest Posts
-
Imran Khan vs Pakistan: Protest of Treachery - Casualty Report
- Latest: Pakistan Space Agency
-
-
-
-
Bajwa calls Bushra's allegations against Saudi Arabia 'baseless'
- Latest: Novus ordu seclorum
