France confirms talks with Pakistan on high-tech systems for fighter developed

[fatman17]

Very impressive pics - imagine the F-20 with the RC400 and MICA BVR. not bad at all. this is a superpower fighter.

 

[araz]

Very impressive pics - imagine the F-20 with the RC400 and MICA BVR. not bad at all. this is a superpower fighter.

These are CGs and not actual pictures. They have been slated as false on Sino defence.forum.
Araz

 

[BATMAN]

China stepping up arms development

BEIJING--China has recorded double-digit growth of its military expenditure over the past two decades, with the country accelerating independent development of military equipment, while also purchasing high-tech Russian weapons. The development focuses on information technology, space capabilities, air and naval forces power and nuclear weapons.

The growth in military expenditure is attributed not only to the country's preparation for a possible emergency in the Taiwan Strait, but also is believed to be based on China's strategy to counter the forward deployment of U.S. forces in East Asia.

At the beginning of this year, a group of top leaders, including President Hu Jintao and Wu Bangguo, chairman of the Standing Committee of the National People's Congress, celebrated the positive outcome of a priority project being conducted by the China Aviation Industry Corporation I (AVIC I) and encouraged its employees to redouble their efforts, according to the Chinese media.

The media reports did not specify what exactly the Beijing-based corporation had done. However, a diplomatic source pointed out that AVIC I is due to start volume production of the KJ-2000--a Chinese version of the U.S. airborne warning and control system (AWACS) plane--which has recently completed its test flight program. The KJ-2000, which is based on a Russian aircraft, is said to be able to track 60 to 100 targets over a 400-kilometer radius.

About a year after deployment of the country's new J-10 fighter aircraft in January 2007, recent reports have said that a J-11B model of the plane with improved stealth capabilities has been successfully test-flown.

In the event of an emergency in the Taiwan Strait, China is believed to be ready to deploy its independently developed AWACS planes and fighter aircraft in addition to Russian-made Sovremenny-class missile destroyers and Kilo-class submarines, also purchased from Russia.

From last year, China also has stepped up exercises in preparation for possible attacks in which electromagnetic pulses are used to damage communications and radar equipment. The scenario used for the exercises supposed that Chinese forces had been attacked and disrupted in this way by enemy forces--apparently meant to be U.S. forces--and specialists believe such exercises will be held more frequently in the future.

China also has devoted energy to space technology development, in line with its military technology development.

After the successful January 2007 test of an antisatellite missile, China has reportedly been seeking ways to get its JL-2 submarine-launched ballistic missiles to carry antisatellite warheads, according to a U.S. report. The SLBMs will be deployed on the Jin-class nuclear submarine, which is currently under development.

China is also accelerating efforts to build its own global positioning system to free it from dependence on the U.S. system. The Chinese version of GPS, called "Beidou," or Big Dipper, would help China develop precision-guided munitions.

Besides preparing for a possible emergency in the Taiwan Strait, China's development of space technology is believed to be part of moves to block the forward deployment of the U.S. forces in East Asia.

This piece of news says that their does exist J-11B. I trust J-11B will look similar to the pictures.

 

[Keysersoze]

Yeah but the J-11 is the copy of the su-27 so it will be a diffrent aircraft

 

[BATMAN]

Still these pictures look too real to be computer graphics.
And the modifications seen are not so impossible to acheive and seems sensible.

 

[blain2]

Sir, could you provide me a link or source whereby I can get the information about low flying hours being conduted on Mig-21 by IAF?

Since there are all in all 300 mig-21 are still in exitance in IAF.

It was in an Indian news report. Let me dig it up.

Here it is. The word used was "serviceability" and not low flying hours (Which was my mistake in recalling from memory), but it serves the point I was trying to make which is that most of the aircraft are old and hard to maintain:

Updated MiGs not flying high for IAF
Rajat Pandit
[ 10 Sep, 2006 0049hrs ISTTIMES NEWS NETWORK ]


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NEW DELHI: If you thought only the older MiG-21 variants were a headache for IAF, think again. Even the upgraded MiG-21s, called ‘Bisons’, are proving a nightmare for pilots.

At any given time, only one-third of the 113 MiG-21 Bisons inducted into IAF so far are fully operational to undertake combat missions. "The rest are usually grounded for lack of spares, maintenance and overhauling," say sources.

"The serviceability of Bisons, which IAF will fly till 2020, is as low as 33%. Since the rest cannot be certified to be 100% airworthy, they are now usually not flown to avoid crashes," they add. Incidentally, three Bisons have already crashed since their induction began in 2001-2002.

IAF would "officially" like to contest the 33% figure. It claims the Bison serviceability has now improved to "around 55-60%" . But even this means almost half the Bison fleet is grounded at all times.

This has serious implications for IAF at a time when Pakistan is on course to acquire more American F-16s and JF-17 ‘Thunder’ jets jointly developed with China, which itself is expanding its air force at a very rapid clip.

As reported first by TOI, IAF has also complained to Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd about the air-unworthiness and tardy serviceability of the around 90 Jaguar deep-penetration strike fighters it has. Similar problems are being faced by the over 100 MiG-27MLs in the fleet.

To top it all, as also reported by TOI earlier, IAF is facing a steady depletion in number of fighter squadrons (each has 12 to 18 jets), which is likely to touch an all-time low of 28 next year from a high of 39.5 two decades ago.

The IAF says "various contracts" have been signed to improve "the spares situation and serviceability" of Bisons. "Supplies have already commenced. In addition, HAL has signed long-term repair agreements with various vendors," said the IAF spokesperson.

"Repair and overhaul facilities for Russian spares are also being set up at HAL. Lab facilities in all air-bases have been set up for better reliability of the systems. To improve the MTBF (mean-time between failure) of various systems, design deficiencies are being resolved," he added.

Things have come to such a pass since the indigenous ‘Tejas’ Light Combat Aircraft, which was to replace MiG-21s, is still nowhere near becoming operational.

 

[KENT]

It was in an Indian news report. Let me dig it up.

Here it is. The word used was "serviceability" and not low flying hours (Which was my mistake in recalling from memory), but it serves the point I was trying to make which is that most of the aircraft are old and hard to maintain:

Definetly your words hold some water, but once again I would like to assure you that as given in article HAL signed various contracts so definetly operational condition of Mig-21s and all other aircraft as mentioned in articles has been improved.

But I want to raise fingure over the journlist who has written this article especially in respect of Tejas, I don't understand how naive one can be since he is propogating and blaming Tejas which was meant to replace Mig-21, it all going to indicate that this particuler journalist hasn't have any creadiability about aviation arena. How he can't understand when Tejas in itself conducted its first flight in 2001 itself then how it can gona soon replace Mig-21.

 

[IceCold]

How he can't understand when Tejas in itself conducted its first flight in 2001 itself then how it can gona soon replace Mig-21.

The purpose of tejas was to replace the MIG-21s of the IAF. I guess talking about soon means that because by the time replacement of migs were due and tejas was suppose to be ready by then, it did not happened and india had to spend another fortune to upgrage the migs to keep them in operational status untill tejas can be made ready.

 

[KENT]

The purpose of tejas was to replace the MIG-21s of the IAF. I guess talking about soon means that because by the time replacement of migs were due and tejas was suppose to be ready by then,

If really this was the case then Tejas should have been ready during 90s itself when project LCA was first initiated and this is same time when replacement of Mig-21 was at his all time peak. According to article which is dated in 2006, so according to author tejas should have been ready by then, but how he can't understand the fact that there is no aircraft in the world can join the fleet within five years of its first flight which was conducted in 2001. He should also take into account several sanctioning hiccups as well as fund shortage that had played major role in slowing down the project. On the top of that, people like this author find very convient in claiming that Tejas was supposed to replace Mig-21, but don't care to give a slightest thaught to the fact that even if tejas meant for the replacement of Mig-21, still it is fourth generation fighter and not similar to the generation where Mig-21 is belongs to, so delays are bound to happen especially when country which has intiatied the project has no experience in producing fourth genreation fighters.

it did not happened and india had to spend another fortune to upgrage the migs to keep them in operational status untill tejas can be made ready.

This is nothing but the product of remarkable short-sightedness that had shown by the IAF when it had gave a green signal to license production of Mig-21s during 70s at the cost of homegrown Maruts.
There is no point in blaming Tejas. Why does IAF kept changing its user requirement when it is really want to replace Mig-21 with Tejas? Because technological changes which has been asked by IAF in tejas is way ahead of technologies that has been incorported in Mig-21 and all those changes are beyond the capabilities of any Indian defence establishment and hence delays are bound to happen. So there is no point in blaming the tejas.

 

[PakShaheen79]

Guys! Please stick to the topic. This threat is one of those which are hijacked by other discussions. First it was F-16IN and now this Tejas issue. where is France and where is JF-17 Avionics???