Four Indians among 15 dead as Taliban bombers attack Kabul

[Ahmad]

Closer to what ?? It will only bring the Indian Gov and the afghan Gov AKA India minus the majority Pushtoons closer .

What makes you say the pashtoons(largest ethnic group in afghanistan) are in favour of pakistan? The tajiks(second largest ethnic group) and other ethnicities are against pakistan anyways(because of pakistan's behaviour).

 

[TaimiKhan]

There is no proof, there is no official statement yet, besides Indians, other nationalities also got killed and the Indian members start crying its the work of Pakistan to target the Indians in Afghanistan and they have no proof. And when Pakistanis say India is involved in Afghanistan to sponsor terror inside Pakistan, they ask for proof and when it comes to their own, they accuse Pakistan without any proof.

I don't understand why aren't the Italians say Pakistan is targeting their nationals or why doesn't other nationalities killed say the same.

Indians without any proof, without any reason are accusing Pakistan and don't listen when we accuse them without proof. Ironic.

Indian members, if Pakistan or ISI had been so desperate about the Indians involvement in Afghanistan, then you won't have been seeing once in a while attacks, rather on daily basis you would have been seeing Indians getting attacked and killed as there are hundreds of them which can easily be targeted if Pakistan or ISI had wanted it.

We are not desperate yet nor has the boiling point reached that level and hope so it doesn't, but when it will reach, then you will see what the outcome is.

This could be any random hit by the Talibans and unfortunately the Indians were caught in it, so did the other nationalities.

If the aim had been to kill Indians, much easier and less casualty prone tactics and methods and opportunities are there to be used.

So keep the discussion within the topic and no need to accuse Pakistan without any proof and solid evidence.

 

[hembo]

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[DavyJones]

@taimikhan - Afghan Taliban is behind this attack. They have claimed responsibility. This is the same Afghan Taliban which was created by Pakistan and continues to be an ally of Pakistani interests in Afghanistan.

It is not me who is saying Indians were targeted. It is the Afghan President and the security officials.
There has been history here. The US and India found clear links to ISI being involved in the Indian embassy blast. That earned Islamabad a stern rebuke from the US. So it is natural that Indian posters will point to Pak and ISI involvement in an attack that killed Indian nationals.

Also It is clear now that the dead included only a film maker(French), doctors, teachers, tabla players and embassy officials of India and Italy. A terrorist attack - but we can see many Pak posters feeling happy about this. Shame on you!

 

[Mallu]

Originally Posted by Aamir Zia View Post
what they were doing there ?

I think Kabul is in Afghanistan.

 

[DavyJones]

While Pakistan continues to lecture the world about Good Taliban and Bad Taliban - what is your view on what these attackers and their backers are ? Good Taliban or Bad Taliban ?

 

[Spring Onion]

My point is that this attack shows how desperate Pakistan is getting regarding India's presense in Afg. Now we kept hearing how Pakistan is convincing USA to keep India out of any role in Afg. If that was true, Pakistan had no need to engineer this attack which rubs GoA and NATO the wrong way..

And i heared the last time Indians were asking for proofs about the killed ones as RAW agents.


So can we ask for the proofs too

 

[Spring Onion]

While Pakistan continues to lecture the world about Good Taliban and Bad Taliban - what is your view on what these attackers and their backers are ? Good Taliban or Bad Taliban ?

hmmmmm Ask them wehther the attackers in this case are good or bad. And why they had attacked the Indians in the first place.

 

[Spring Onion]

India should not take it lightly. It should punish who are behind it. Reply should be deterrence for the future attack on indian interests.

Good advice.

BTW i dont see Indian media is even taking the death of 9 Indians, mostly agents serioulsy.

Although we see loud shouting from Indian media but this time there is no front page news.

 

[DavyJones]

@Jana - that's probably because the budget is making front page news right now. And you destroy your credibility by calling tabla players, doctors, teachers etc as agents. Shame on you!

In fact many Indian defence analysts and Army people are taking this attack very seriously. Pakistan should be ready for a response soon. I don't think the Indian army will take the killing of it's officers lightly.

There are precedents. IAF shot down the Atlantique after it's jets were SD over Kargil. IA destroyed a Pak Army Brigade HQ in 2002 after terrorists entered into a camp in Akhnur to kill some senior officers.

 

[DavyJones]

Prime Minister Manmohan Singh said the death of medical personnel in the Kabul blast defined the risks Indian medical teams have to face while serving in Afghanistan.

"The medical fraternity in our country has been serving our people under very difficult conditions with great distinction," Singh said on Saturday, inaugurating the annual meeting of the Indian Association of Cardiovascular-Thoracic Surgeons in New Delhi.

"My thought goes to those members of the Indian Medical Mission in Kabul who, while serving the people of Afghanistan, particularly the women and children, used to visit Indira Gandhi Hospital there, perished in the terror attack yesterday (Friday)," he said.

The prime minister said the incident shows the measure of uncertainty that Indian doctors work under and pointed out the risks faced by them while serving the people of Afghanistan.

"It is a measure of the commitment to relief of human suffering that the medical fraternity is known for all over the world," he said.

Taliban carried out coordinated suicide attacks at two hotels in Kabul killing up to nine Indians.

Singh said Indians were very proud of the reputation their doctors have earned both in the country and in every part of the world. "I am one of those who has personally benefited enormously from the expertise and skills of our doctors, especially cardio-thoracic surgeons".

Observing that one of the challenges before India was the increased incidence of heart and blood vessel diseases, Singh said these ailments affect all social classes, with the poor being particularly vulnerable.

Coronary heart disease is also manifesting itself in much younger age groups than in the past, he said.

"There is growing consensus within the medical fraternity that urgent measures need to be taken both from the preventive point of view as well as in relation to cardiac surgical care," he said adding that primary long-term strategy to cope with heart and blood vessel diseases should clearly be preventive in nature.

"We know that many of these diseases can be prevented or at least delayed to a very late age. In recent years, there has been increasing social awareness about health related issues.

"This is a positive development and the growing health consciousness particularly among young people is a big resource for those who manage public health care," he said.

Singh said while preventive efforts are of paramount importance, there will still be many who will need to undergo surgery for correction of their heart or blood vessel disease.
"Whether it is a little infant who needs a hole in the heart closed or a teenager or an adult who needs his blocked blood vessels bypassed, it is the prowess of the surgeon that makes the difference often between life and death," he said.

After Indian doctors and hospitals becoming the destination of choice for patients from Pak we could expect some sympathy from Pakistanis on this forum to the killing of children doctors .. yet all we get is drivel about Indian agents who deserved it.

All stories of Indian doctors helping ordinary Pakistanis .. still believe your government that all Indians are out to get you ?
Pancreatic cancer surgery of an uninsured Pakistani patient in India at affordable cost - Free-Press-Release.com
BBC News - Mending hearts in times of conflict
The Hindu : Karnataka / Bangalore News : Pakistani baby awaits surgery
Indian doctors who saved Pakistani Boy's Life d...

 

[karan.1970]

And i heared the last time Indians were asking for proofs about the killed ones as RAW agents.


So can we ask for the proofs too

Ma'am.. This was one of the 2 possibilities in my original post that I explained in detail on one member's request. The second being this was a random attack with no involvement from Pakistan. Read this post in context of my earlier one...

Whats sure is that it was done by Afghan Taliban...

 

[Awesome]

To S-2: You Yanks need to stop giving money to the Paks ... their economy will collapse within days the moment external aid is cut-off. Get your supplies through Central Asia. Let the Paks stew in their own juice.

The question for the US government is why they are keeping the Paks afloat, given that the Paks are causing so much mayhem in Afghanistan, and are oppressing minority nations like the Baloch.

How many soldiers has the US lost because of Pak proxies? How much punishment are you willing to absorb?

The Paks don't appreciate a cheeky guy circumventing the word filter. Have a nice life.

 

[TaimiKhan]

@taimikhan - Afghan Taliban is behind this attack. They have claimed responsibility. This is the same Afghan Taliban which was created by Pakistan and continues to be an ally of Pakistani interests in Afghanistan.

It is not me who is saying Indians were targeted. It is the Afghan President and the security officials.
There has been history here. The US and India found clear links to ISI being involved in the Indian embassy blast. That earned Islamabad a stern rebuke from the US. So it is natural that Indian posters will point to Pak and ISI involvement in an attack that killed Indian nationals.

Also It is clear now that the dead included only a film maker(French), doctors, teachers, tabla players and embassy officials of India and Italy. A terrorist attack - but we can see many Pak posters feeling happy about this. Shame on you!

LTTE creation had a lot of Indian role and then the same LTTE which India funded and supported went against India so called peace keeping force and made them pay a heavy price, one major reason being LTTE became self sufficient and no longer needed India.

Same case about the Taliban, who have become self sufficient money wise due to the drug trade,the ransom money and some part of the aid money given by different countries to Afghanistan which get channeled to the Taliban in different ways and some other ways too.

Thus Taliban are now not depended on Pakistan for its support, they finance themselves pretty good and have the ability and the independent decision making power to do whatever they like and deem fit for their own objectives.

If Pakistan had so much control on them then they would have helped Pakistan in controlling the menace happening inside of Pakistan.

World needs proof and if you guys don't have none then keep it shut and don't accuse Pakistan for it.

 

[Spring Onion]

@Jana - that's probably because the budget is making front page news right now. And you destroy your credibility by calling tabla players, doctors, teachers etc as agents. Shame on you!

In fact many Indian defence analysts and Army people are taking this attack very seriously. Pakistan should be ready for a response soon. I don't think the Indian army will take the killing of it's officers lightly.

There are precedents. IAF shot down the Atlantique after it's jets were SD over Kargil. IA destroyed a Pak Army Brigade HQ in 2002 after terrorists entered into a camp in Akhnur to kill some senior officers.

Indians are concealing the death of other Indian army officers

It was 9 then came down to 5 and today you brought 6 bodies.

and BTW why Indian Army is threatening Pakistan when you guys dont have any proof who had done it.

I see after budget some Indian Orang media is going to create fussy stories quoting un-named sources

anyway when you do it its speculation when someone else do it its conspiracy theory.

Anyway i think this small news was not worth draging to this many pages