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Former Indonesian Armed Force General said soldiers duty is to serve God as "Ibadah" for afterlife

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Indonesia state ideology, Pancasila

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For any one who think Indonesia is a secular country :bunny::bunny::bunny:

I think he speaks for himself, I mean multiple US public servants claim to work for god and yet the country is not officially and specifically based on religion.

In the case of Indonesia, it might not be a full blown secular but it is also not a theocracy. So is Indonesia secular? Yes to some extent, and no to some extent as well.
 
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I think he speaks for himself, I mean multiple US public servants claim to work for god and yet the country is not officially and specifically based on religion.

In the case of Indonesia, it might not be a full blown secular but it is also not a theocracy. So is Indonesia secular? Yes to some extent, and no to some extent as well.

Theocracy like in Taliban government is something new, Indonesia IMO is closer to Islamic teaching since in Islam there is verse saying that there is no compulsion in religion.

Indonesian is a religious one, it is what is always being stated as Indonesian people character, but we still have freedom since Islam itself as religion also give and honor freedom as religion is not something to be forced like forcing women to wear hijab, segregration in school for women and boys, moral police seeking Muslim men who dont pray Jumah like in Aceh province etc
 
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He repeat again in Setijab (Transfer of power ceremony) this Morning

Marshall Hadi Cahyanto

 
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Theocracy like in Taliban government is something new, Indonesia IMO is closer to Islamic teaching since in Islam there is verse saying that there is no compulsion in religion.

Indonesian is a religious one, it is what is always being stated as Indonesian people character, but we still have freedom since Islam itself as religion also give and honor freedom as religion is not something to be forced like forcing women to wear hijab, segregration in school for women and boys, moral police seeking Muslim men who dont pray Jumah like in Aceh province etc

Yes, like I said Indonesia as a society can be considered to have religious tendencies, but Indonesia as a state is not necessarily although it is also not secular either. Indonesia is something in the middle now. Perhaps true secular Indonesia would be during Soeharto's reign since hijab is banned in professional settings since it was considered religious symbol and did not rhyme with One Indonesia identity.
 
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This is saintly level

Without intention to disrespect her / underestimate her good intention, actually nobody will cash any cheque that doesnt belong to him/her, because once you do it you will be easily tracked and be detained in jail.
 
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Indonesian society

Bogor, West Java

 
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Without intention to disrespect her / underestimate her good intention, actually nobody will cash any cheque that doesnt belong to him/her, because once you do it you will be easily tracked and be detained in jail.

Cleaning service officer dont understand thing like that in detail, here another example and this woman ( cleaning service officer) found Gold inside a bag that she found at 97 Grams which is valued at more than 5000 USD and still return it back

 
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