former holocaust survivor and prisoner at Auschwitz has admitted he made the story up.

[MastanKhan]

i'm disappointed in many of the people in this thread, claiming that the holocaust never happened. I really thought you guys were smarter than that.

Hi,

Here is one proof of documentation-----. The guy who made up the story admitted he lied and researchers could not trace his steps.

Share with us in detail---how the dead bodies were transferred from the gas chambers to the furnaces---and what precautions were taken and equipment worn so that the guards would not be poisoned from the remnants of the poison gas.

And how were the gas chambers sealed so air tight----

This here is a picture of one of the furnaces----. This type of furnace could not accomodate more than two bodies at one time---why----because when you burn a body---it releases water---it would take hours to burn two bodies in a furnace---they still are not ashes----the bones and skulls would have to be smashed with hammers to crush them into smaller pieces.

In the last year of the war---there would be shortage of fuel---.

If there were a 1000-1200 prisoners were being killed a day---it would need around 400-500 furnaces burning full time 24 / 7 to and 100 of troops on location to transport the dead and then smash the burnt bones into smaller pieces.

These furnaces were basically for the cremation of prisoners who died of starvation---.

 

[That Guy]

Hi,

Here is one proof of documentation-----. The guy who made up the story admitted he lied and researchers could not trace his steps.

Share with us in detail---how the dead bodies were transferred from the gas chambers to the furnaces---and what precautions were taken and equipment worn so that the guards would not be poisoned from the remnants of the poison gas.

And how were the gas chambers sealed so air tight----

View attachment 317908

This here is a picture of one of the furnaces----. This type of furnace could not accomodate more than two bodies at one time---why----because when you burn a body---it releases water---it would take hours to burn two bodies in a furnace---they still are not ashes----the bones and skulls would have to be smashed with hammers to crush them into smaller pieces.

In the last year of the war---there would be shortage of fuel---.

If there were a 1000-1200 prisoners were being killed a day---it would need around 400-500 furnaces burning full time 24 / 7 to and 100 of troops on location to transport the dead and then smash the burnt bones into smaller pieces.

These furnaces were basically for the cremation of prisoners who died of starvation---.

They weren't just killed in gas chambers, there were several methods used, such as mass executions via bullets.


And it wasn't just jews that died, roma, russians, communists, blacks, crippled people...etc.

Look, I'm not going into this history lesson, you should have been taught this at school and I know for a fact that Pakistani schools teach students about the holocaust in great detail.

Well Guardian has also covered this story
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/24/holocaust-survivor-lied-joseph-hirt-auschwitz

either way, the thread should be shut down for the other reasons I posted.

 

[EyelessInGaza]

i'm disappointed in many of the people in this thread, claiming that the holocaust never happened. I really thought you guys were smarter than that.

The fact is that they're not. Dumber than two stones rubbing together, is a more apt description of who they are. Racist and fundamentalist, also. It would be charitable to assume they're just mediocre teenagers already finding refuge in make believe.

I am glad that threads are opened- you can see all the loons, the murderous wannabees, clueless geniuses all in one place, come crawling out of their holes.

 

[TMA]

Exactly, it is one of the most documented events in world history.

Even in China we learn about the Holocaust in school. This is mainstream world history.

I also learned about it in school. What you learn in school is not always reality.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Well Scientific research , and logic cannot be deined

As stated by a debator , it is impossible to burn 1200 people a day in 2-3 small furnace to a point where the body is fully consumed by fire and turned into Ash as the "Myth Goes"


Reality:
End of world war 1 :
Treaty was created and imposed on Germany to pay Money to France / British for damages done to Society I think it was payable for 100-200 Years.


What that meant for Average German , for every 100 dollar they made by their hard work 95 Dollar was deducted from their pay check and then deposited into Government accounts for French / Bristish.

Due to this Economic stealing, a political view emerged in Germany which refused to pay such Money

This was the Prime and Only Reason for World War 1

This was nothing more then Modern day slavery

33 billion in 1919 is like 1-1.5 Trillion Dollars of modern day money

Reality:
Why Jews were deported ? Did race played a part ? Did Germans did not do business with non whites?

The reason was simple, Britain was losing war , France was occupied , Jews groups (financial resourceful groups) made a agreement with British Government that they will spread Propaganda in USA , the goal of the news , video , radio broad cast will be to develop this "IMAGE" of Germany as Baby eating DEVILS. This vision would be fed to US public so that they would be interested to go to way with Germany

Germany had ties to Turkey (who had ethnic groups in Africa / Present day Middle east), Italy etc (From ww1 days)
Germany had ties to Japan (again not your blue eyed blonde)

So evidence suggest they worked well with other ethnicity

Bargaining Chip:
The reward promised by British for this "GROUP" was a promise to allow small colony on the areas of Palestine

So what did Germans did deported refugees who were not really residents of Germany but had migrated into Germany in past , illegal migrants long time ago

Reality:
Why do we have pictures of these skinny people and people with no clothes and no food on websites

Fact:
During way 1/3 or 2/3 of world population died not all were due to bombs , mostly it was due to no food available and spread of illness and no medicine.

It was common for person to get perhaps 1 loaf of bread or part of bread to eat all day and they were considered quite lucky to have that

Camps for public were quite common and food was never always available readily



We also have evidence of needless war crimes

2 Atomic bomb detonations , which were mostly "NOT" needed as the war had already ended and Japan was surrounded by 1000+ ships had converged on Japan to occupy it



Germans were not Baby eaters

On contrary germans were interested to have free trade , grow their companies and give jobs to local unemployed workers in Germany and not pay $$$$ for ransom money for WW1 damages, and that was all there was to it.

Germans stood up , took over France and also took Britain to distance


How long for Body to decompose due to Fire?


Cremating at the optimum temperature (1400-1800 degrees), the average weighted remains takes 2 to 2 1/2 hours. How long the process would be for in between clean up , opening oc chambers , sealing it again for leaks etc god knows extra 2-3 hours in between

In India Cremation takes like 24 hours on wood based cremation

How long it takes to burn 6,000,000 Million people (if any)
9.6 People would be burned per 1 day @ rate of 2.5 hours for 1 person

625,000 Days would be needed to burn this many people

1712 Years would be needed to burn 6 Million people

How long was ww2 barely 5-6 Years, with Chambers barely use for may be 1 year or less

Most scientist stated the "chambers" are not air tight and usage of Deadly gas would have leaked out and killed Germans


Here is a little tid bit ......
Germany is at war , and there is lack of fuel and gas
So why would Germany waste gas ? When people need commodity to fuel home furnace



DEATH BY ATOMIC WEAPON Allied forces in few days

• 146,000 people in Hiroshima
• 80,000 in Nagasaki

246,000+ killed for merely waking up in a city doing their normal activities

Other Impacts to Society 1 - 5 Million

a) Amputation
b) Blindness
c) Radiation long term critical injuries delayed deaths by Cancer
d) Birth Defect

(No real archive to track the injuries or birth defects or cancer deaths)

It is a myth create to make people believe German troops were just killing machine

It is harder to sleep at night when you know you killed another human who was not necessarily evil but rather a human who had family and did stuff love sports , hobbies and other activities like any human. It is easier when the War is made to look like between GOD VS DEVIL

 

[xenon54 out]

Hi,

Here is one proof of documentation-----. The guy who made up the story admitted he lied and researchers could not trace his steps.

Share with us in detail---how the dead bodies were transferred from the gas chambers to the furnaces---and what precautions were taken and equipment worn so that the guards would not be poisoned from the remnants of the poison gas.

And how were the gas chambers sealed so air tight----

View attachment 317908

This here is a picture of one of the furnaces----. This type of furnace could not accomodate more than two bodies at one time---why----because when you burn a body---it releases water---it would take hours to burn two bodies in a furnace---they still are not ashes----the bones and skulls would have to be smashed with hammers to crush them into smaller pieces.

In the last year of the war---there would be shortage of fuel---.

If there were a 1000-1200 prisoners were being killed a day---it would need around 400-500 furnaces burning full time 24 / 7 to and 100 of troops on location to transport the dead and then smash the burnt bones into smaller pieces.

These furnaces were basically for the cremation of prisoners who died of starvation---.

Gas chambers werent the only methods used in killing prisoners but also mass shooting, hanging, medical experiments, starving, dying by exhaustion etc. ect.

And by far not every corpse got burned in the furnaces.

 

[jhungary]

Because Jews all know each other, and all have the same plan./s

Every group has assholes, but by your logic, every american thinks like trump.

By the way, even if you're right, that doesn't prove what you claim at all. You're just using a post hoc fallacy.

This remind me of this story I have heard 4 years ago.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/que...now-prisoner-of-the-state-20101221-193tk.html

At first, my reaction is, why the heck would someone want to fake his own account of being a Prisoner of War? I mean, people fakes their combat history, service history, but to fake a POW history? It just wasn't in the right mind. And bear in mind that guy is not doing it for benefit.

This is what we called "Hero Worshipping" by claiming to be one of the folks that was captured by the Japanese during WW2, he has himself made up a whole story, back ground to portray himself as "one of the heroes", it probably started by him meeting actual WW2 PW and started to worship them, and progressively migrate to be one of them.

The question, however, is not his state of mind, but the fact that he have himself made it into the National President of the Ex-Prisoner association, he have met thousand upon thousand of actual POW and no one have none the wiser. He even start claiming disability from the war wound that he have not served and have not received.

Now, what that have to do with this topic?

Well, judging from the folks that speak here, since he is a fake POW, then I can safely assume the Status of POW does not exist during the pacific campaign in WW2, no Australian were ever captured by the Japanese, maybe to an extend WW2 were actually not real (Because he also claim to be a war veteran).

Now, you see my point?

 

[jamal18]

The biggest killer in the camps was Typhus. It gives people diarrhea, they can't hold down their food, and become totally emaciated.

The 'gas chamber' in Auschwitz was built in 1947, 2 years after the war.

The figures for burning people in crematoriums is garbage. To account for the claimed figures, it was said that the ovens burnt a person in 20 minutes; when even this figure didn't work, they said they cremated several people together.

I am currently working in a crematorium to the west of London. They are installing the latest, state of the art ovens in this place. I asked one of the workers how long the latest oven takes, my exact words were '......about 20 minutes?'. The worker laughed and said in that time you couldn't burn the coffin. He said it takes about 80 minutes to burn a person. And this is with 20th century technology.

It's sad to see Slave Pakistani's are teaching the western agenda to their children.

Google David Stirling, the historian.

 

[mohsen]

these lies are the reason they wont allow independent people to research about holocaust.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Gas chambers werent the only methods used in killing prisoners but also mass shooting, hanging, medical experiments, starving, dying by exhaustion etc. ect.

And by far not every corpse got burned in the furnaces.

If you look around you will see the area is bombarded by bombs so these are just perhaps people who died due to bombardment from planes , which was a scene common across Europe, Deaths by fire suffocation or areal bombardment by Allied froces

See the buildings behind , burned / bombarded (*Evidence)

When city was bombarded , or fire bombs were dropped many people died , the bodies were normally collected and disposed off quickly before , Illnesses like Plague or other dangerous health issues arose.

Individual burial was not a luxury present for all, becasue all we know a second raid was to commence to kill the people gathering the corpses


Atomic Bomb death picture from a Private collection of officer , who found the photo camera with pictures and processed it himself

Most of the Allied articles state the people just vanished in thin air .... vaporized minimum pain
however such images show otherwise

 

[TMA]

Gas chambers werent the only methods used in killing prisoners but also mass shooting, hanging, medical experiments, starving, dying by exhaustion etc. ect.

And by far not every corpse got burned in the furnaces.

There were no homicidal gas chambers. There is no material and documentary evidence for them from the N.S Germans.
Regarding the photographs: what was the cause of death for these souls? Starvation? Disease? Bullet? Gas???
There are so many questions and photographs like these, although horrific, are not proof that there was a state financed plan with the intention of physically exterminating Jews in the control of the N.S Germans.
They are proof that a lot of people died in the concentration camps and elsewhere. Judging by their emaciated bodies, most likely, due to starvation and disease but who knows?
Indeed many civilian Germans died of such causes especially during the latter years and even after due to lack of supplies but one does not see those photographs of those Germans civilians nearly as often as one sees of the concentration camp victims and other victims.

 

[jamal18]

If I were an academic, I am expected to show a certain competence in my work. Assume I am involved with anything to do with figures: the number of wild boar in Pakistan, the number of wild deer in Scotland, or the number Wild wolves in Romania.

I write an academic paper saying that there are 300,000 red deer. A little while later, I write that there are 4.5 million. And then I write that there are 1.1 million. Every academic would look at my thesis and fall over laughing. My work wouldn't be taken seriously by any one, I would never get a university chair, and lose it if I had one. No reputable journal would publish my work.

In 1946, the Polish communist authorities tried the staff of Auschwitz. At this time all the witnesses were there, as were all the documents. The charge against them was that they had 'caused the deaths of 300,000 people'. By the 1970's, a placard appeared outside Auschwitz saying that 4.5 million Jews were murdered here. Today that sign has been replaced by one that says 1.1 million people, mainly Jews, were murdered here.

Exactly what kind of academic research are these figures based on?

 

[TMA]

Here a German-Canadian waking up.

https://redice.tv/news/sorry-mom-i-was-wrong-about-the-holocaust

Why do YOU support open debate on the Holocaust?

 

[Butchcassidy]

Yeah holocaust didnt happen.
Millions of jews disappeared from eastern Europe because they were abducted by aliens.

 

[yolo2016]

It's sad to see Slave Pakistani's are teaching the western agenda to their children.
.

You are the world's dumbest person to make that statement about Pakistanis in Pakistan while you live off the welfare of a Christian western country. Even dumber than claiming the holocaust was a hoax.

Hi,

Here is one proof of documentation-----. The guy who made up the story admitted he lied and researchers could not trace his steps.

Share with us in detail---how the dead bodies were transferred from the gas chambers to the furnaces---and what precautions were taken and equipment worn so that the guards would not be poisoned from the remnants of the poison gas.

And how were the gas chambers sealed so air tight----

View attachment 317908

This here is a picture of one of the furnaces----. This type of furnace could not accomodate more than two bodies at one time---why----because when you burn a body---it releases water---it would take hours to burn two bodies in a furnace---they still are not ashes----the bones and skulls would have to be smashed with hammers to crush them into smaller pieces.

In the last year of the war---there would be shortage of fuel---.

If there were a 1000-1200 prisoners were being killed a day---it would need around 400-500 furnaces burning full time 24 / 7 to and 100 of troops on location to transport the dead and then smash the burnt bones into smaller pieces.

These furnaces were basically for the cremation of prisoners who died of starvation---.

You are what trump talks about and the reason why the muslim community in U.S is feeling more more angst.