Formal Offer for J-31 and also presention on J20

[Mughal-Prince]

Ohhhh!!!!!!! i did not know that. I can predict the source of your your deep insight in fighter plane technology.

Welcome to the forum.

Well your earlier post shows that you don't know a Sh!t about what you are writing and seems going to become troll bait and been soon your butt would be kicked. So here is a brotherly suggestion.
The forum you have joined is one of its class in the whole world and been respected all around the world where as it represents South Asian people and the way they think and behave over defence and strategic matters. So I suggest you refrain from posting sh!tty nonsense and becoming a troll bait, try to enlighten yourself by going back and forth in this forum. Believe you me you will not find one like this on the whole internet which shows the true Color of South Asians and their understanding as well as one of the best insights regarding projects systems subsystems bla bla bla and a hell lot of stuff to create understanding.
From where you are it may least take you 1 year to understand if you spend least 2 hours straight and 1 to 2 random daily.

 

[Hyperion]

Actually they've met and excelled at all tolerances....... let's see how they fare with batch production.......... if that's mastered, it will signal the beginning of end to western dominance in this field............

Sources say China, recently, has got some success wrt its domestic turbofan engine, but its not fullly matured yet.

 

[danger007]

Are there any j 31poroto types rolled out .. how come you guys can say an 5th gen project can be finished in 5 to 7 years.. that too for export

 

[NIA]

Are there any j 31poroto types rolled out .. how come you guys can say an 5th gen project can be finished in 5 to 7 years.. that too for export

j 31 is really a stealth high tech fighter. ..then china won't export it to other countries for next 6-7 years of induction in their AF

 

[danger007]

j 31 is really a stealth high tech fighter. ..then china won't export it to other countries for next 6-7 years of induction in their AF

well every 5th gen tech is high tech.. you come with specifications and at least with 2 or 3 proto types.. most of members here argue without valid data.. or based some X sources.. speculated news.. unless pak is willing to buy whatever china made in the name of J 31... 5th gen jet by 2020-22 time frame is not possible. . china is not fool.. to give whatever pakistan wants .. chinese are good businessmen. ..

 

[Tipu7]

well every 5th gen tech is high tech.. you come with specifications and at least with 2 or 3 proto types.. most of members here argue without valid data.. or based some X sources.. speculated news.. unless pak is willing to buy whatever china made in the name of J 31... 5th gen jet by 2020-22 time frame is not possible. . china is not fool.. to give whatever pakistan wants .. chinese are good businessmen. ..

China is not fool. That's why they give what ever we demand unlike Russians or Americans

 

[Rafi]

J-31 may just be the gift but years earlier Sir Pshamim said this

PAF has been closely working with Changdu for most of her recent projects. When it comes to China-Pakistan, "export variant" kind of discussion becomes irrelevant. If PAF's requirements needed J-20, we would see it flying in PAF's colors.

For sure, If J20 is purchased it would form the "F15, and the J31 as the generic F16 jack of all trades/

 

[Donatello]

A fact repeatedly proven during an exercise between PAF and PLAAF, where JF-17 were picking up the massive SU-30s before the smaller jet was getting detected.

It is common sense, right? Unfortunately don't expect much level of reasoning and logic from those who arrest and jail pigeons.
SU30MKI is some level of vedic space ship. Cannot be touched, only auto-crashed.

 

[volatile]

SU30MKI is some level of vedic space ship. Cannot be touched, only auto-crashed.

Lolz

 

[Windjammer]

It is common sense, right? Unfortunately don't expect much level of reasoning and logic from those who arrest and jail pigeons.
SU30MKI is some level of vedic space ship. Cannot be touched, only auto-crashed.

I have mentioned this before, an IAF SU-30 commander attending the JSCC in Swindon, formally disclosed to a PAF pilot also in the same course, ''If he ever went to battle, he would prefer his old steed (Mirage-2000) than the massive SU-30''. .... and not without reason.

 

[SBD-3]

Actually they've met and excelled at all tolerances....... let's see how they fare with batch production.......... if that's mastered, it will signal the beginning of end to western dominance in this field............

First test for Chinese is to match the Russians. Hotties at GE and P&W come way later. The real evidence of Chinese engine breakthrough would come when we would see Chinese prototyping engines on aircrafts.

I have mentioned this before, an IAF SU-30 commander attending the JSCC in Swindon, formally disclosed to a PAF pilot also in the same course, ''If he ever went to battle, he would prefer his old steed (Mirage-2000) than the massive SU-30''. .... and not without reason.

There's no doubt about it that mirages are the darling of IAF. Their verstility and flying pleasure still keeps IAF pilots wanting more of them.

 

[Hyperion]

Tolerance-wise they've already exceeded the Russians on test-beds........ it's a matter of very short time that they can play in the big-league....... this is my firm belief, usually I'm not into fanboy stuff.......

First test for Chinese is to match the Russians. Hotties at GE and P&W come way later. The real evidence of Chinese engine breakthrough would come when we would see Chinese prototyping engines on aircrafts.

 

[SQ8]

well every 5th gen tech is high tech.. you come with specifications and at least with 2 or 3 proto types.. most of members here argue without valid data.. or based some X sources.. speculated news.. unless pak is willing to buy whatever china made in the name of J 31... 5th gen jet by 2020-22 time frame is not possible. . china is not fool.. to give whatever pakistan wants .. chinese are good businessmen. ..

A fool would presume to speak for the Chinese. The Chinese would give us anything, provided we can afford it. To facilitate that too they were willing to give us soft loans but it is Pakistan that has denied it because our credit rating cannot take any more loans.

 

[ACE OF THE AIR]

A fool would presume to speak for the Chinese. The Chinese would give us anything, provided we can afford it. To facilitate that too they were willing to give us soft loans but it is Pakistan that has denied it because our credit rating cannot take any more loans.

Sir, Pakistan can not have more loans but can be taken on a barter deal or some other way.

 

[SQ8]

Sir, Pakistan can not have more loans but can be taken on a barter deal or some other way.

No. It is in the simplest sense a bad reputation you make if you borrow more than you can pay interest on your payment plans. If you cross a limit, other people will not be willing to give you a loan for something that may really be more important.