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Foreign rifles trump 'Make in India'; Army shutting down high-tech project
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Army closing indigenous high-tech project to save money for imported guns

The ministry of defence (MoD) is shutting down the high-tech indigenous project to develop a Battlefield Management System (BMS) — a 21st century digital network that interconnects combat soldiers on the frontline, giving them all a common picture of the battlefield and greatly reducing the “fog of war”.

Business Standard has learnt the army wants to save the Rs 50 billion needed to develop the revolutionary BMS, in order to buy foreign rifles and carbines — weaponry in which technology has advanced only incrementally over the last century.

Last October, the vice-chief of army staff ordered the BMS project shut down to save money for “more urgently needed equipment”. That was endorsed in November by the Defence Production Board, chaired by Defence Secretary Sanjay Mitra. In December, the Integrated Project Management Team that oversees the BMS project ruled that it was not required “in its current form”.

“The army brass has failed to grasp the importance of BMS. Probably, Defence Minister Nirmala Sitharaman will go along,” say officers familiar with the developments.

In fact, there is now another arbitrator — the new high-powered Defence Planning Committee (DPC) that was set up last month. Headed by National Security Advisor Ajit Doval, the DPC is aimed at imparting a long-term perspective to defence procurement. This would involve evaluating what provides greater benefits: An upgrade in small arms, or a transformative force multiplier like the BMS.

The criticality of battlefield transparency — or “knowing what is on the other side of the hill”, as soldiers put it — has been understood and pursued for over two centuries. Prussian military theorist Carl von Clausewitz lamented “the fog of war” in his classic book, Vom Krieg (On War).

The power of a networked force was dramatically demonstrated in the First Gulf War in 1991, when Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Army collapsed in 96 hours before a new-generation US military that had married sensor technology with real-time, cross-force networking, creating for their soldiers a transparent battlefield.

Younger Indian mid-level commanders who are comfortable with digital technology believe our mid-20th century army must be similarly networked through systems like the BMS. But many senior generals, who grew up before smartphones became ubiquitous, are more comfortable with rifles and guns than with digital networking.

BMS networks frontline combat troops in infantry battalions and tank regiments. It works like Google Maps, which gets drivers to their destinations quicker by “crowd-sourcing” traffic information from various sources, including drivers’ mobile phones. BMS similarly “crowd-sources” battlefield information from its own soldiers, communicated over small “software defined radios” (SDR) that equip each soldier.

Each soldier in a BMS-equipped combat unit has a unique digital identity and is interconnected with other soldiers via a MANET (mobile ad hoc network) that rides on their personal SDRs. This uses the same principle as a home Wi-Fi internet router, with each family member exchanging information through the Wi-Fi router, while also accessing the external internet through it. Defence industry sources also point out that cancelling BMS would be a blow to the “Make” procurement category. BMS is one of only three on-going “Make” projects, in which the MoD selects two Development Agencies (DAs) to design and develop the system, later reimbursing 80-90 per cent of the DAs’ development costs.

Defence industrialists and MoD bureaucrats have termed “Make” projects the “soul of indigenisation”, and recommended launching 8-10 “Make” projects every year to build indigenous defence capability.

Yet, now, the army has recommended scrapping Project BMS and the MoD is poised to okay that.

Two DAs were chosen for Project BMS. In one, Tata Power (Strategic Engineering Division) is in partnership with L&T. The other DA is a consortium between Bharat Electronics and Rolta India. Each DA quoted about Rs 25 billion to design the BMS and build four prototypes for evaluation. That is significantly higher than the Rs 3.5 billion per DA that the army arbitrarily sanctioned in 2007. Now the MoD is bargaining with DAs to slash costs.

The army says equipping the army’s 800-plus combat units with BMS would cost Rs 500-600 billion, judging by the cost of prototype development. But industry sources argue that prototype development costs are far more than industrial production, where scale drives down prices.

Paradoxically, while shutting down BMS for its combat echelons, the army is going ahead with various projects to network higher headquarters. These include the Tactical Communications System, Command Information and Decision Support System, Artillery Command, Control and Communications System and the Battlefield Surveillance System.

“What is the sense of a 21st century command and control network that controls an old-fangled combat force,” predicts one defence expert anonymously.

Within the defence industry, there is concern at the army’s unilateral closure of BMS. If cost is the issue, industry says the MoD must sit down with the DAs and discuss and analyse costs in detail.

“Shutting down the project arbitrarily will destroy trust with industry. Private firms have put money and effort into this project. Now, without discussion, the project is being closed,” says a senior executive in one DA firm.

 
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India = All hat no cattle.

Modi = All foam no beer.

Lol
 
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Have they finally dropped that junk called insas?
Insas has been inducted in the 90's and has pretty much served around 2 decades. It served it's purpose and now it's time for an upgrade as IA wanted to move to the 7.62mm. These Insas maybe given to some of the state police forces as they still use the vintage .303 Lee Enfield

An initial batch of Assault rifles would be procured on a fast-track basis to equip the frontline troops most probably the Tavors or AK-103, rest of the army would be equipped with indigenous ARs.

OFB's Trichy AR has been approved by CRPF and is also being used by Chhattisgarh state police while Ghaatak is being procured by State police forces from Assam, Punjab, Manipur, Tamil Nadu, Telangana, Bihar, Maharashtra, Kerala and Nagaland while many other CAPFs have shown interest in Ghaatak AR.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities...assault-rifle-after-tests/article19937479.ece

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...fle-to-kerala-police/articleshow/56605569.cms
 
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After more than two decades in service, it's finally time to replace it.
But calling it as Junk, well that's rich coming from a Pakistani.
Pakistani are always rich....we have big hearts. You can now rest with a warm cup of your fav golden juice.
 
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Pakistani are always rich....we have big hearts. You can now rest with a warm cup of your fav golden juice.

Oh yeah, the big heart syndrome, we are well aware of that. You people have lot of hear related problems it seems, all ending up in our hospital.

And yes, its better if you keep religion out, specially since you being a Muslim. Its too damn easy to roast a Muslim.
 
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Oh yeah, the big heart syndrome, we are well aware of that. You people have lot of hear related problems it seems, all ending up in our hospital.

And yes, its better if you keep religion out, specially since you being a Muslim. Its too damn easy to roast a Muslim.

I am having a roasted beef burger....or Teri maa
Now f off piss drinker.
 
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Its JUNK

India’s Anti-Terror Troops Despise Their Assault Rifle
Soldiers would prefer AKs to this piece of junk



by ROBERT BECKHUSEN

In 1999, the Indian Army fought a three-month-long undeclared war with Pakistan. It was also the combat debut of India’s new Insas battle rifle.

The Insas is a very bad rifle.

During the conflict—waged over the disputed and mountainous Kargil district in the province of Kashmir—the Indian troops’ rifles jammed up, and their cheap, 20-round plastic magazines cracked in the cold weather.
medium.com/war-is-boring/indias-anti-terror-troops-despise-their-assault-rifle-3fcafa392aaa

Our soldiers need better rifles
blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/shooting-straight/our-soldiers-need-better-rifles/

INSAS, the desi Kalashnikov that wasn’t
As the army looks to do away with it, Newslaundry looks at the indigenous assault rifle with more misses than hits
www.newslaundry.com/2016/10/04/insas-the-desi-kalashnikov-that-wasnt



I dont get what indians problem is, Insas is J.U.N.K

 
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Its JUNK

India’s Anti-Terror Troops Despise Their Assault Rifle
Soldiers would prefer AKs to this piece of junk



by ROBERT BECKHUSEN

In 1999, the Indian Army fought a three-month-long undeclared war with Pakistan. It was also the combat debut of India’s new Insas battle rifle.

The Insas is a very bad rifle.

During the conflict—waged over the disputed and mountainous Kargil district in the province of Kashmir—the Indian troops’ rifles jammed up, and their cheap, 20-round plastic magazines cracked in the cold weather.
medium.com/war-is-boring/indias-anti-terror-troops-despise-their-assault-rifle-3fcafa392aaa

Our soldiers need better rifles
blogs.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/shooting-straight/our-soldiers-need-better-rifles/

INSAS, the desi Kalashnikov that wasn’t
As the army looks to do away with it, Newslaundry looks at the indigenous assault rifle with more misses than hits
www.newslaundry.com/2016/10/04/insas-the-desi-kalashnikov-that-wasnt



I dont get what indians problem is, Insas is J.U.N.K
But it's Indian junk so they love it
 
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