Foreign Policy and China

[beijingwalker]

‘Fools like you do not search for better argument but search for bad words like you are searching.

Do Indian fools ever come up with any arguements? which one? like this?

 

[ProudThamizhan]

So you stupid fool now trying to deny you people eat animal feces and instead smear others on that, lol, 5 years old stupid lie to make you fool feel better. I haven't came cross before such a low life shameless liar as you fool.

You are the one with coprophilia etylo

 

[hari sud]

India's presence in Taiwan

Why is India showing an undue interest in telling China that Taiwan Straits sea lanes and all surrounding areas of China sea, including North and South China Sea lanes are to be kept open for international shipping. India has sent a small navy force to the region to show its flag to the Chinese. In addition, India has sent three of its former armed services chiefs to Taiwan in a security seminar to let China know that India, after a lapse of 70 years of Pro-Peking policies have changed. It is firmly against the Chinese belligerence in the region.

All this happened after the Indian Prime Minister, Modi received a very warm reception in the US last June. The US gave India what it wanted that is jet engine technology to manufacture in India and many more. In return, Modi agreed with the US President that Chinese belligerence in the East needs to be contained. That included India becoming a full member to confront China in the open sea in the China Sea area, including the Taiwan Strait. Also, the Indian-initiated naval exercise 'Malabar 2023' will be held in the Australian Sea, with four QUAD members (US, Japan, Australia, India) participating.

Now India realizes that opening of the Taiwan Straits and other sea lanes are of vital importance to India economically. If China invades Taiwan and starts an unsuccessful war in the area, it will disrupt or paralyze the supply of computer chips to India at the first moment of war. In addition the Chinese in their enthusiasm will snap the submarine cables which carry data to and fro and were Taiwan in the hub. India relies heavily on data transfer using such cables.

The above had made India nervous and was a topic of discussion during Modi-Biden talks. Biden asked and Modi agreed to India's participation in the defense of these two very important economic levers of trade. Now, it is understood that the Indian Navy is showing its flag and three former service chiefs are attending a security meeting in Taiwan for a serious business.

Another aspect of the above is to poke China in the eyes for sending their navy ships to the Indian Ocean, including Sri Lanka and Gawadar in Pakistan. Hence, if they come to our area of interest, we will return the favor and visit their areas of interest.

 

[etylo]

India's presence in Taiwan

Why is India showing an undue interest in telling China that Taiwan Straits sea lanes and all surrounding areas of China sea, including North and South China Sea lanes are to be kept open for international shipping. India has sent a small navy force to the region to show its flag to the Chinese. In addition, India has sent three of its former armed services chiefs to Taiwan in a security seminar to let China know that India, after a lapse of 70 years of Pro-Peking policies have changed. It is firmly against the Chinese belligerence in the region.

All this happened after the Indian Prime Minister, Modi received a very warm reception in the US last June. The US gave India what it wanted that is jet engine technology to manufacture in India and many more. In return, Modi agreed with the US President that Chinese belligerence in the East needs to be contained. That included India becoming a full member to confront China in the open sea in the China Sea area, including the Taiwan Strait. Also, the Indian-initiated naval exercise 'Malabar 2023' will be held in the Australian Sea, with four QUAD members (US, Japan, Australia, India) participating.

Now India realizes that opening of the Taiwan Straits and other sea lanes are of vital importance to India economically. If China invades Taiwan and starts an unsuccessful war in the area, it will disrupt or paralyze the supply of computer chips to India at the first moment of war. In addition the Chinese in their enthusiasm will snap the submarine cables which carry data to and fro and were Taiwan in the hub. India relies heavily on data transfer using such cables.

The above had made India nervous and was a topic of discussion during Modi-Biden talks. Biden asked and Modi agreed to India's participation in the defense of these two very important economic levers of trade. Now, it is understood that the Indian Navy is showing its flag and three former service chiefs are attending a security meeting in Taiwan for a serious business.

Another aspect of the above is to poke China in the eyes for sending their navy ships to the Indian Ocean, including Sri Lanka and Gawadar in Pakistan. Hence, if they come to our area of interest, we will return the favor and visit their areas of interest.

Lol, so now China is scared of your mighty junk Indian navy, send them to Taiwan strait to threaten China, think you can meddle in Chinese Taiwan affair like the US, think you are really a super power ? What is the dumbest excuse that Taiwan strait passage seriously affect your trade route, lol, only people with IQ of 84 can only think that way, Pacific ocean sea lane routes are just hundred of KM away from Taiwan island, only stupid donkeys will think their trade ships have to go through Taiwan strait in time of crisis. So, you fools are looking for a fight with China in Taiwan strait ? Bring on, we will obliterate your junk battleships and dismember your fake country this time.

 

[OIO]

I really can't understand why these Western voices criticize Xi Jinping?

Xi gives $100 billion to the world for free every year.

Any country can get money from China for free. Or directly rob Chinese money.

If xi dies. Or CCP ends. Democratic China was built. How do these countries receive money from China?????

And India. I can't even understand why Indians believe that CCP is their enemy. Please don't forget. It is CCP that allows India's illegal independence. Democratic China does not allow it!

In 1942. Democratic China guarantees to the UK that it will not recognize/allow India independence.

Without the Communist Party China would only be nationalistic.

China's foreign policy will be tougher, and it will be tougher on Western infiltration and foreign religions.

Will not give too much consideration to long-term strategy, will immediately resolve the Taiwan issue.

 

[maithil]

Eleven has been sent by heavens for taking CCP dynasty to its logical conclusion.

 

[nahtanbob]

Without the Communist Party China would only be nationalistic.

China's foreign policy will be tougher, and it will be tougher on Western infiltration and foreign religions.

Will not give too much consideration to long-term strategy, will immediately resolve the Taiwan issue.

it is just fine with me. we are living in the nuclear age

 

[nahtanbob]

Pakistan-China partnership: bridging nations, building communities​

Pakistan-China: bridging nations, building communities | The Express Tribune

It is heart-warming that in China, the term ‘Ba Tie’ (Iron Brother) is reserved only for Pakistan

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The tale of Pakistan-China relations is not an ordinary one. It is an account of brotherhood, friendship and trust whose foundations were laid more than seventy years ago. The vision of the leadership of our two countries at the time laid a solid basis for a relationship which has subsequently been carefully nurtured into a robust, vibrant, time-tested, all-weather strategic cooperative partnership. Pakistan and its people, I can say with absolute confidence, value the relationship greatly, and proudly call China our ‘Best Friend’. It is heart-warming that in China, the term ‘Ba Tie’ (Iron Brother) is reserved only for Pakistan.

Pakistan’s relations with China remain the cornerstone of our foreign policy. The close time-tested friendship with China enjoys the abiding support of the people of Pakistan.

Despite the vicissitudes of times and changes in international landscape, the all-weather Strategic Cooperative Partnership has grown into a towering tree with its deep roots of love in the hearts of the two peoples.

Zhou Enlai, China’s first Premier, once said the friendly interactions between the peoples of China and Pakistan date back to the dawn of history. Certainly, Pakistan-China relations are the continuation of ancient civilizational bonds that had existed between the two nations since ancient times. The flow of trade through the ancient Silk Road and geographical proximity brought the two great Asian civilizations together. Monks and thinkers from China made their historical journeys to Taxila and other Buddhist places in Pakistan, painting a beautiful picture of Gandhara civilization and bringing Buddhist wisdom to China, thus binding the two nations together in an everlasting bond.

The historical evolution of Pakistan-China relationship, and its growing importance in the wake of evolving regional and global developments, remains an exemplary model of inter-state relationship. The unique relationship of seven decades — underpinned by the rationale of strong political support, mutual trust and all-round practical cooperation — has matured into a strong strategic partnership.

I would soon be traveling to Beijing, on my first visit after assuming office, to participate in the Third Belt and Road Forum for International Cooperation — the event that will mark the completion of a decade of Belt and Road Initiative (BRI), the iconic and visionary project of President Xi Jinping.

We pay tribute to the vision and statesmanship of President Xi who, ten years ago, propounded the Vision of a Community with a Shared Future for Mankind, introducing a novel concept for international development partnership, a new idea for global governance and cooperation, and a fresh approach towards international exchanges, thus drawing up a new blueprint for a better inter-connected world.

The core of the visionary concept is built on socio-economic development with focus on the elements of inclusivity, common prosperity and win-win cooperation. It embodies the ideals of an open, inter-connected, clean and beautiful world that enjoys lasting peace and sustainable security.

As we delve more into this concept, it becomes clear that it draws upon the ancient Chinese philosophy and wisdom. The concept of tiānxihe, translating as “harmony under heaven”, refers to the whole world and promotes diversity, while emphasizing harmonious and mutual inter-dependence as the means to enduring peace.

As noted by the recent white paper released by the Chinese State Council, BRI is a ‘key pillar’ of the Global Community of Shared Future. The subsequent unveiling of the concepts — including Global Development Initiative (GDI), the Global Security Initiative (GSI) and the Global Civilization Initiative (GCI) — has further refined the concept of “Shared Community”.



Pakistan was amongst the first countries to join BRI. CPEC, the flagship project of BRI, marks a milestone in Pakistan-China relations, by placing economic cooperation and connectivity at the very center of bilateral agenda, making the two countries more inter-connected than ever before. CPEC remains a shining example of the BRI’s promise of economic prosperity and connectivity. It has transformed the socio-economic landscape of Pakistan, upgrading modern infrastructure, enhancing regional connectivity, ensuring energy security and creating jobs.

This year Pakistan hosted a series of events marking the successful first decade of CPEC. We were also pleased to welcome Chinese Vice Premier He Lifeng, as Special Envoy of President Xi, in Pakistan to attend ten-year celebrations of CPEC.

Pakistan remains committed to the high-quality implementation and completion of the second phase of CPEC. We fully endorse China’s proposal of developing CPEC as a corridor of growth, innovation, livelihood, green economy, openness and inclusiveness — representing our two countries’ preference for human-centric approach, inclusivity and green development.

Pakistan is also a pioneering member of GDI Group of Friends and has played an active role in giving it a more concrete shape. As the first priority partner under GDI, and the first one to ink an MoU on GDI, Pakistan stands ready to benefit from this cooperation in areas of education, health, climate change and poverty reduction, thus making meaningful contributions to achieving the SDGs in a timely manner.

Pakistan has also supported the GSI and its adherence to the UN Charter and principles of multilateralism and non-interference in internal affairs. Having suffered for long due to unresolved disputes, conflicts and terrorism, we also advocate dialogue and constructive engagement based on mutual respect, for ensuring regional peace in South Asia.

The GCI is yet another landmark and timely initiative of President Xi, promoting respect for diversity, peaceful co-existence, mutual learning and inclusiveness. In a world marred with discord and divisiveness, dialogue between civilizations can be a means to peace and reconciliation.

Pakistan’s foreign policy objectives have always been those of “peace within and peace without”, as outlined by our Founding Father Muhammad Ali Jinnah. It was, therefore, all but natural for Pakistan to endorse these key initiatives put forth by President Xi.

In a world marred by multiple challenges like conflicts, economic recessions, food insecurity, social inequalities and climate change, the salience of Pakistan-China strategic partnership assumes great importance. It is a source of pride and comfort for our two peoples and a factor of peace and stability in the region and beyond. Ours is a relationship of the past, present and the future; and nothing can alter this reality.

As per our longstanding tradition, we support each other on our core issues. We are grateful to China for its support to Pakistan’s sovereignty, territorial integrity and economic security and its principled support on the issue of Jammu and Kashmir. We reaffirm our commitment to One-China Policy and our support to China on its core issues including Taiwan, Hong Kong, Tibet, Xinjiang and the South China Sea.

As close friends, strategic partners and iron brothers, Pakistan and China are moving forward towards a destiny of shared future. I remain confident and convinced that our friendship will further strengthen in the coming days and attain even greater heights in the years to come.

Long live Pakistan-China Friendship!

Published in The Express Tribune, October 17th, 2023.

 

[nahtanbob]

What China wants from Pakistan​

What China wants from Pakistan

The first thing to do is to drain all emotion out of the relationship.

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WHAT China wants from Pakistan is the same as what China wants from every other country, which is to endlessly run a trade surplus in their favour. There might be a few specific things beyond this, such as Gwadar for instance, but those are marginal and nowhere near as central to Chinese designs in Pakistan and the rest of the world as we might imagine.

Just add up the numbers. Since 2010, Pakistan has run a cumulative trade deficit with China equal almost to $90 billion. This means capital worth $90bn has flowed from Pakistan to China against goods and services coming the other way. The next big deficit region includes the oil-producing countries of the Gulf.

With the US, in the same period, Pakistan ran a trade surplus of $34bn. With the UK, it ran a trade surplus of almost $12bn. For the EU, it is harder to give a figure because the State Bank does not report EU trade data as a region, and the member countries have changed over the decade, making it difficult to manually compute the cumulative trade for these years. But it is safe to assume that there would be a sizeable trade surplus here too.

The numbers paint a rather straightforward picture. Pakistan earns capital by participating in the economies of the US, UK and EU, and spends this capital in the economies of China and the oil-producing kingdoms of the Gulf.

The interesting thing is, if you look at the decade between 2000 and 2010, China would not factor as the top country with which Pakistan ran a trade deficit. It attained that position post-2010, and cemented it further with the second China Pakistan Free Trade Agreement agreed to in 2019.

This is not unique to Pakistan. There are not many countries in the world that run a trade surplus with China. The single largest trade surplus that anyone ran with China last year, for example, was Taiwan, coming in at $156bn.

Other countries that ran a trade surplus with China include Japan, South Korea, Malaysia, Indonesia, Brazil and a few others. By and large, the rest of the world runs a deficit. India, for example, ran a $100bn deficit with China last year alone.

The difference between them and us, however, is they can afford this deficit whereas we can’t. Another difference is that India has worked to safeguard its trade interests with China, for example, by eschewing a bilateral free trade deal with them, while pursuing these with others in Southeast Asia instead.

Pakistan, on the other hand, has not only gone deeper into this loss-making relationship with China, but increased reliance on Chinese credit as well along the way. A report released by Aid Data, a research lab based in the College of William and Mary, provides some useful data.

Since 2000, China has committed $70bn to Pakistan in the form of development finance, including emergency lending for budgetary support. Of this, $56bn was committed in the post-2013 period, when the Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) began. The report provides data on commitments only, not actual disbursements, but in some categories, it is easy to see how commitments would equal disbursements.

One of these categories is the general budget support. Of the $56bn committed by China to Pakistan in the post-BRI period, $16bn were for budget support. In the pre-BRI period, the years running from 2000 to 2012, budget support credits were $4.6bn.

Notice the trend? China begins extending more and more credit for budget support to Pakistan as the trade deficit grew. What is the purpose of these credits? To keep us in the game. So we can keep losing more and more to them with every passing year.

Let’s emphasize something that should otherwise be obvious. China is doing nothing wrong here. This is, in fact, fairly normal trade policy for an emerging great power. All great powers have run a similar trajectory. They run trade surpluses with the rest of the world for prolonged periods, gathering more and more capital within their economy as the years pass.

Then they become exporters of this capital to others. Eventually, as their economy becomes the single largest producer of goods and services, as well as the single largest supplier of capital to the world, they remake the rules of the game to make their currency the medium of exchange in global trade settlements as well as the key reserve asset.

China is walking this timeline, although it has hit some snags in graduating from the role of “workshop of the world” to the key financier of the world economy.

To repeat: China is doing nothing wrong, nothing sinister. This is normal trade policy for an emerging power, and its relationship with much of the world looks like this. It is Pakistan that has to learn something here. The first thing to do is to drain all emotion out of the relationship.

This business of ‘higher than the highest mountain’ needs to end. Second thing is to take stock of the two free trade agreements we have had with China thus far, and decide whether we want to renew this in 2024 or not, and if so, on what terms.

The most important thing is to realize that the game is all about earning capital, not borrowing it, not pulling it in with one-off fire sales of assets. Centre your relationships with all countries around this principle.

Relationships that help you earn capital are to be built upon. Those that drain capital from you are to be reformed and changed. Build a foreign policy with this in mind. That is the only way the country can pull itself out from a cycle of endless borrowing.

The writer is a business and economy journalist.

 

[migflug]

98% Of China Funding To Pakistan Were In "Less-Than-Generous" Loans: Report

As much as 98 per cent of China's development funding for its all-weather ally Pakistan came in the form of "less-than-generous loans", with only two per cent coming in the form of grants between 2000 and 2021, according to a research report.

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Karachi:
As much as 98 per cent of China's development funding for its all-weather ally Pakistan came in the form of "less-than-generous loans", with only two per cent coming in the form of grants between 2000 and 2021, according to a research report.


Help iron brother I am stuck in unreasonable loan terms and unsurmountable interest rates!
Iron brother what are you doing?

 

[etylo]

98% Of China Funding To Pakistan Were In "Less-Than-Generous" Loans: Report

As much as 98 per cent of China's development funding for its all-weather ally Pakistan came in the form of "less-than-generous loans", with only two per cent coming in the form of grants between 2000 and 2021, according to a research report.

www.ndtv.com

Karachi:
As much as 98 per cent of China's development funding for its all-weather ally Pakistan came in the form of "less-than-generous loans", with only two per cent coming in the form of grants between 2000 and 2021, according to a research report.


Help iron brother I am stuck in unreasonable loan terms and unsurmountable interest rates!
Iron brother what are you doing?

Another shit report by the world famed Indian news sources, lol.

 

[nahtanbob]

Pak-China Nexus​

In a significant move to fortify the enduring friendship between Pakistan and China, a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was recently signed between the local government, election, and rural development department and China Window, a Chinese cultural center in Peshawar. This monumental agreement lays the groundwork for a multifaceted collaboration that extends beyond cultural enrichment.

Secretary Local Council Board, Mian Shafiqur Rehman, and Amjad Aziz Malik, the administrator of China Window, officially sealed the commitment by appending their signatures to the memorandum. This ceremonious act solidifies the dedication of both parties to the principles and initiatives outlined in the agreement, signifying a collaborative step forward in the shared journey of cultural exchange and developmental cooperation between Pakistan and China.

The establishment of a corner at China Window dedicated to promoting development initiatives in Khyber Pakhtunkhwa signifies a pragmatic approach to collaboration beyond cultural exchange. This initiative aligns with the broader vision of both nations to promote economic development and prosperity, emphasizing the practical and tangible outcomes for the socio-economic upliftment of the region.

A noteworthy provision of the agreement is the support pledged for teaching the Chinese language in Peshawar Municipal School and College. In an era where linguistic diversity plays a crucial role in fostering international relations, this initiative aligns perfectly with the evolving dynamics of global collaboration. By facilitating the learning of Chinese, this move enhances educational opportunities and opens avenues for deeper cross-cultural understanding.

The involvement of the local government department in promoting culture, tourism, education, and industrial development is a testament to the holistic approach required for comprehensive partnerships. Secretary local government Dawood Khan rightly highlighted the constructive role that both China Window and the local government department will play in strengthening ties between the two nations.

As this MoU unfolds, it emerges not just as a symbol of cultural exchange but as a blueprint for broader collaboration across various domains. The initiatives outlined underscore the commitment of both nations to a relationship that transcends superficial diplomatic gestures. It is a visionary leap that sets the stage for a dynamic and enduring partnership between Pakistan and China, promising mutual growth, understanding, and shared prosperity.

Pak-China Nexus

In a significant move to fortify the enduring friendship between Pakistan and China, a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) was recently signed between the local

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