For all non-Chinese: You don't have the right to tell what China should do. Unless you take responsibility for the consequence.

[etylo]

I do not care what most people think. I care that they have the freedom to think and express themselves. Even those ideas that may seem critical of one's own politicians, parties, governments.

I like to see such points being raised in authoritarian regimes without fear of repercussions. Like the A4 protestors did not enjoy.

As usual, in Beijing, you enjoy more Western freedom of expression than the room of maneuver your own government gives you.

So, go ahead to use Western freedom of expression against the West.

Anyways, there should be ways to seriously hold a government responsible for failures. Not lower officials, but very top ones. Because, China COVID response has proven to be mismanaged.



This should have been done more than a year ago.

I wonder why are you not in the US since you seem to worship it so much and despise China so much.

 

[beijingwalker]

Who is to decide what is constructive criticism? The party school? What is constructive to me may seem unconstructive to you. Why not allow all criticism, give all equal chance. Because, in your case, it is always those that decide the borders of constructive criticism win. The rest is silenced.

Let me give you an example, PRC and India were established around the same time, PRC 1949 and India 1947, with very similar GDP and size of the population, two countries embarked different development paths, now PRC's GDP is 6 times of " free speaking" India, you see the difference between constructive criticism and blaming shifting and finger pointing? blaming others is the easiest thing to do but can you do better if you are in the other shoe?

I wonder why are you not in the US since you seem to worship it so much and despise China so much.

He might be another false flagger, I asked him and he didn't reply.

 

[DabbuSardar]

So far the output of giving up zero covid policy in China is not good. Too many people got sick and can not work. Streets in Beijing are almost empty. Many stores are closed. The business environment is worse than lockdown time. Experts said the situation will be better when most people recover from the disease. I hope they are right. Otherwise Chinese will not only lose freedom like today, also will lose their health.

At first Chinese government planed to gradually open up. It never said the zero covid policy would last forever. Maybe it would be a better time to open up when the Omicron vaccine is for sale or when the weather is warmer. Obviously the anti-quarantine protests disrupted the plan. Now we all see the result of Chinese government’s concession to public opinion has once again been proven to be bad. Is west democracy really better than China’s political system? The realities don’t support that. This is the reason I’m always against election politics.

Let’s talk those non-Chinese who supported China’s anti-quarantine protesters. What you will pay if the protesters are wrong? What compensation you will make to China if the policy you suggested turned out to be a disaster? Nothing. Instead now you are mocking how inefficient Chinese vaccines are. Assume as you said Chinese vaccines are indeed inefficient. You just know that today? Hasn’t the west media said that long ago? So why you supported those naive protesters if you actually knew that?

We all should blame USA. Who not only likes verbally lecturing to other countries’ policies, but also is the boss of all kinds of color revolutions. And after those countries collapsed, it left all messes to them without any compensation. Dare USA say it doesn’t have any responsibility for Ukraine’s tragedy? Who funded 2014 Ukraine’s color revolution and enticed Ukrainians to join in the west camp?

All victim countries that suffered from US interfering others internal affairs should sue US to International Court of Justice for compensations. China should join in the accusation.

Only victims are common chinese, three years of lockdowns only to die again.

Sad.

 

[etylo]

Only victims are common chinese, three years of lockdowns only to die again.

Sad.

You delusional indians ill wish, thats fart.

 

[beijingwalker]

Only victims are common chinese, three years of lockdowns only to die again.

Sad.

And beneficiaries are Indian dogs, free human flesh feasts on Indian river banks.

 

[theBill]

The average person in the West don't even really care, we know the elites that run our world just want to rape China's wealth.
People attacking China just do so for entertainment & jealousy, because secretly they admire China's progress.

White man always use Western educated Chinese women against China. When Chinese women go west and got fk by white man, they become the most shameless whore, stabbing their kins like crazy.

That's the point of culture war, to create as much division for conflict; do not antagonize your own women.

 

[313ghazi]

So far the output of giving up zero covid policy in China is not good. Too many people got sick and can not work. Streets in Beijing are almost empty. Many stores are closed. The business environment is worse than lockdown time. Experts said the situation will be better when most people recover from the disease. I hope they are right. Otherwise Chinese will not only lose freedom like today, also will lose their health.

At first Chinese government planed to gradually open up. It never said the zero covid policy would last forever. Maybe it would be a better time to open up when the Omicron vaccine is for sale or when the weather is warmer. Obviously the anti-quarantine protests disrupted the plan. Now we all see the result of Chinese government’s concession to public opinion has once again been proven to be bad. Is west democracy really better than China’s political system? The realities don’t support that. This is the reason I’m always against election politics.

Let’s talk those non-Chinese who supported China’s anti-quarantine protesters. What you will pay if the protesters are wrong? What compensation you will make to China if the policy you suggested turned out to be a disaster? Nothing. Instead now you are mocking how inefficient Chinese vaccines are. Assume as you said Chinese vaccines are indeed inefficient. You just know that today? Hasn’t the west media said that long ago? So why you supported those naive protesters if you actually knew that?

We all should blame USA. Who not only likes verbally lecturing to other countries’ policies, but also is the boss of all kinds of color revolutions. And after those countries collapsed, it left all messes to them without any compensation. Dare USA say it doesn’t have any responsibility for Ukraine’s tragedy? Who funded 2014 Ukraine’s color revolution and enticed Ukrainians to join in the west camp?

All victim countries that suffered from US interfering others internal affairs should sue US to International Court of Justice for compensations. China should join in the accusation.

It's a discussion forum. If you want just CCP view - read thier twitter feed.

 

[DabbuSardar]

And beneficiaries are Indian dogs, free human flesh feasts on Indian river banks.

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Dont eat the dogs!!!

 

[nahtanbob]

US vaccines don't work better than China's, otherwise you won't see these many infections and deaths there.

China can say the same to US vaccines

Moderna would like to sell vaccines in China. But they are not giving up their technical secrets

Moderna refused China request to reveal vaccine technology, Financial Times reports

Moderna Inc has refused to hand over to China the core intellectual property behind the development of its COVID-19 vaccine, leading to a collapse in negotiations on its sale there, the Financial Times reported on Saturday, citing people familiar with the matter.

www.reuters.com

 

[etylo]

Dont eat the dogs!!!

Indian officials tell poor people to start eating rats: 'The beauty is we have billions of them'

Indians living in one of the country's poorest state have been told to eat rats. State officials are asking hotels and restaurants to devise interesting ways of serving the meat.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[etylo]

So far the output of giving up zero covid policy in China is not good. Too many people got sick and can not work. Streets in Beijing are almost empty. Many stores are closed. The business environment is worse than lockdown time. Experts said the situation will be better when most people recover from the disease. I hope they are right. Otherwise Chinese will not only lose freedom like today, also will lose their health.

At first Chinese government planed to gradually open up. It never said the zero covid policy would last forever. Maybe it would be a better time to open up when the Omicron vaccine is for sale or when the weather is warmer. Obviously the anti-quarantine protests disrupted the plan. Now we all see the result of Chinese government’s concession to public opinion has once again been proven to be bad. Is west democracy really better than China’s political system? The realities don’t support that. This is the reason I’m always against election politics.

Let’s talk those non-Chinese who supported China’s anti-quarantine protesters. What you will pay if the protesters are wrong? What compensation you will make to China if the policy you suggested turned out to be a disaster? Nothing. Instead now you are mocking how inefficient Chinese vaccines are. Assume as you said Chinese vaccines are indeed inefficient. You just know that today? Hasn’t the west media said that long ago? So why you supported those naive protesters if you actually knew that?

We all should blame USA. Who not only likes verbally lecturing to other countries’ policies, but also is the boss of all kinds of color revolutions. And after those countries collapsed, it left all messes to them without any compensation. Dare USA say it doesn’t have any responsibility for Ukraine’s tragedy? Who funded 2014 Ukraine’s color revolution and enticed Ukrainians to join in the west camp?

All victim countries that suffered from US interfering others internal affairs should sue US to International Court of Justice for compensations. China should join in the accusation.

I dont know why all those foreign morons like to tell Chinese how to handle their own affairs all the time, saying whats right or wrong for Chinese to do, Chinese dont do that to these people in any way.

 

[TNT]

China is in a tough stage, something the world faced 2 years ago. Frankly the only way through covid is herd immunity. U can delay it but u cant finish it. So i think its better the chinese govt relaxed is policies. The ppl were getting angry n western media taking full advantage of it. Now atleast the ppl know that strict policy saved their lives.

 

[kankan326]

I dont know why all those foreign morons like to tell Chinese how to handle their own affairs all the time, saying whats right or wrong for Chinese to do, Chinese dont do that to these people in any way.

That's the key point. You barely see Chinese tell others how to handle their internal affairs. Even China achieved economic success. We always emphasized you don't have to copy China's model and there are many ways that can lead to success. Why some people don't know how to speak if they don't lecture China in this forum? How Chinese PDF members survived without doing that all the time then?

 

[terry5]

Seems China cares more for its citizens than any country bar New Zealand maybe .
In US U.K. people died in there millions /100s thousands due to negligence and profit over lives .
Basically the governments were complicit in the deaths of the old & weak especially there minority citizens .

India by far the worst in handling care of its citizens .

 

[Song Hong]

That's the key point. You barely see Chinese tell others how to handle their internal affairs. Even China achieved economic success, we always emphasized you don't have to copy China's model and there are many ways that can lead to success. Why some people don't know how to speak if they don't lecture China in this forum? How Chinese survived without doing that all the time then?

Every Chinese have high IQ especially Taxi drivers in Beijing. I also hear and admire their comments on USA bla bla....etc

People can talk and gossip and discuss and it will help make things clearer,

However important office bearers, top newspaper of nations need to be very careful about making remarks.