Five killed as gunmen target Shias marking Ashura in Kabul

[Peaceful Civilian]

Their accusations doesn't mean a thing in the real world.

We have nothing to do in Afghanistan incident. ISIL has claimed the responsibility probably iraqi jihadis.
But i was talking about Pak, their supporters and terrorists apologists .

 

[nangyale]

We have nothing to do in Afghanistan incident. ISIL has claimed the responsibility probably iraqi jihadis.
But i was talking about Pak, their supporters and terrorists apologists .

Let's talk about Pakistan in Pakistani section.
There is no point in giving opportunity to the enemies of Pakistan to blame us for their own problems.

 

[SOHEIL]

 

[Mentee]

Rest in eternal Peace-------

 

[TMA]

Quaid Azam [this may get me kicked of the form]: drank alcohol, like pork sandwiches (this is noted by several people who are considered authorities on his life) and wanted a secular state.

If given the choice which do you want:

The Golden period Islam -- which many people don't know, if you are referring to sections of Spain or perhaps the Fatmid dynasty was largely secular.



Muslims sadly do not know their history -- try reading the travels of Ibn Batutta where he talks about Muslim women appearing topless in his court and he asking them, that at least cover yourself in my court.

NOTE: I'm not advocating Muslim women go topless -- just telling you how detached Muslims are from what they think is their history



I am curious: what empirical method or rational argument did the Sheikh un Najd use for conjuring up this Thesis?

Sheikh un Najd is the devil himself. And the devil is an enemy avowed. (One would have to be a Muslim or even a follower of any Abrahamic faith in order to understand this. If my memory serves me correct I remember you describing yourself as atheist?)

Pakistan is already a secular country. Why do you wish it to be even more?

Maybe the Quaid was a secular man but what about his last public speech regarding the economic system of Pakistan?

 

[Max]

RIP..

 

[Malik Alashter]

Sad ....dont know when this blood bath will stopped

easy when ahlul sunna firmly, and honestly clean their house and disown these animals and close their mosques this way they announce to the world that they are against terrorism.

 

[pakistani342]

Sheikh un Najd is the devil himself. And the devil is an enemy avowed. (One would have to be a Muslim or even a follower of any Abrahamic faith in order to understand this. If my memory serves me correct I remember you describing yourself as atheist?)

Well I suspect so did the former US Super court justice Scalia who said: I believe the devil is a real person ??

Pakistan is already a secular country. Why do you wish it to be even more?

Secular mean separation of church and state: for example in Pakistan the state gets to decide who is a Muslim and who is not: case in point Ahmadis

Maybe the Quaid was a secular man but what about his last public speech regarding the economic system of Pakistan?

mmm -- do you have a link to the speech -- I am not familiar with it; but I've heard about it.

Further: Economic systems are very complex mechanisms -- few people understand how, for example the US system works. Coming up with one that is significantly different than something that is tried and known to work seems like a fools errand for a poor country.

 

[H!TchHiker]

Well lot of friends talking here about Jinnah .
This is what he said in his Last public speech "Banking system compatible with the Islamic idea of social and economical life.The economic system of the west has created almost insoluble problems for the humanity and to many of us it appears that only miracle can save it now from the disaster that is now facing the world.It has failed to do justice between man and man and to eradicate friction from the International field.On the contrary, it was largely responsible for the two world wars in the last half century.The western world, in spite of his advantages, of mechanized and industrial efficiency is today in a worse mess then ever before in history.
The adoption of western economic theory and practice will not help us in achieving our goal of happy and contended people.
We must work on our destiny in our own way and present to the world an economic system based on true Islamic concept of equality of manhood and social justice.We will thereby be fulfilling our mission as Muslims and giving to humanity the message of peace.which alone can save it and secure the welfare, happiness and prosperity of mankind".

Meanwhile i am trying to post a audio link also

 

[TMA]

Well I suspect so did the former US Super court justice Scalia who said: I believe the devil is a real person ??



Secular mean separation of church and state: for example in Pakistan the state gets to decide who is a Muslim and who is not: case in point Ahmadis



mmm -- do you have a link to the speech -- I am not familiar with it; but I've heard about it.

Further: Economic systems are very complex mechanisms -- few people understand how, for example the US system works. Coming up with one that is significantly different than something that is tried and known to work seems like a fools errand for a poor country.[/QUOTE

Economic/Monetary Videos:

1. Please watch his videos. Designed for the layman.
2. Another video for the layman.
3. Mainly about the US system.
   
4. Of course many of Sheik Imran Hosein's videos.

Economic/Monetary Books/Literature:

1. https://www.amazon.com/Bancarotta-A...I_1_10?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1476522007&sr=1-10 Designed for the layman.
2. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems-and-poets/poems/detail/54319 A poem by Ezra Pound.

Coming to Iqbal, there is a duality present in his works. His English language works are different to his Dari and Urdu works. Perhaps in his English works he was addressing a different audience including the British?
However in his Dari and Urdu works he addressed it to the Muslims and his compatriots.
Pakistan should follow Iqbal's Dari and Urdu works.

Regarding secularism from Iqbal.