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First Photos of Destroyed Leopard and Bradley’s, confirmed

the recent photo from July shows the 4th Bradley separated from the other 3 by green grass, in the older one from June its one large mud patch

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Oh My god, are you for real??

This is the 2 picture I capped from the video in twitter Splinter Team youquoted



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This is the photo to debunk it

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1.) The turret of that bradley is facing backward, the chassis is going the same way with the collided bradley, but the turret is facing backwards. Now if you look at the twitter photo, you can see the same bradley in the same position (Blue number 1) also have the gun backward, not to mention the 2 also collided as per picture 3

2.) The back ramp was half opened on the only Bradley that travel in a different direct than the 3. You can see it clearly only half open in picture 2, and you cannot see the full ramp on Picture 3, by the way, that mean the electrical system is kaputt, you were supposed to use the door, not the electric ramp to exit when your battery is gone.

3.) The engine cover of the collided bradley (Blue number 2) have the engine cover close, mostly because the driver was killed or incapacitated, because when you can't move your vehicle, you will go up to the engine and check it, and the engine cover can only open level so if you weren't told how to open it (only the driver will know) you can't.

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You cna see Blue number 1 and Blue number 3 both have the hatch open, with Blue number 2 close, and it recipicate in picture 3.

So I can tell you the two set is the same, again, unless you have a repeat of a collision with 1 gun facing one way and the other facing the exact opposite, and you have 3 travelling in the same direction with the lone Bradley going the other way and you have both of the same set have the engine hatch open and one close. that odd that you have exactly the same parameter of 4 Bradley being kill is almost impossible. Forget about the mud
 
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Oh My god, are you for real??

This is the 2 picture I capped from the video in twitter Splinter Team youquoted



Photo 1
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Photo 2
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This is the photo to debunk it

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1.) The turret of that bradley is facing backward, the chassis is going the same way with the collided bradley, but the turret is facing backwards. Now if you look at the twitter photo, you can see the same bradley in the same position (Blue number 1) also have the gun backward, not to mention the 2 also collided as per picture 3

2.) The back ramp was half opened on the only Bradley that travel in a different direct than the 3. You can see it clearly only half open in picture 2, and you cannot see the full ramp on Picture 3, by the way, that mean the electrical system is kaputt, you were supposed to use the door, not the electric ramp to exit when your battery is gone.

3.) The engine cover of the collided bradley (Blue number 2) have the engine cover close, mostly because the driver was killed or incapacitated, because when you can't move your vehicle, you will go up to the engine and check it, and the engine cover can only open level so if you weren't told how to open it (only the driver will know) you can't.

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You cna see Blue number 1 and Blue number 3 both have the hatch open, with Blue number 2 close, and it recipicate in picture 3.

So I can tell you the two set is the same, again, unless you have a repeat of a collision with 1 gun facing one way and the other facing the exact opposite, and you have 3 travelling in the same direction with the lone Bradley going the other way and you have both of the same set have the engine hatch open and one close. that odd that you have exactly the same parameter of 4 Bradley being kill is almost impossible. Forget about the mud

ok so you numbered the vehicles so what? why to complicate matters to avoid admission?

stop trolling please you have too much time

keep it clean and clear grass and no grass

clearly two different photos and locations, rest I will leave to your imagination

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ok so you numbered the vehicles so what? and to complicate matters to avoid admission

keep it clean and clear grass and no grass

clearly two different photos and locations, rest I will leave to your imagination

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Sure somewhere else you have another set of 4 Bradley "DESTROYED" with 2 collided against each other with their guns pointing the opposit position and 3 going one way and 1 going the other and the one that's going the otherwise also have the back ramp half opened and the 3 that gone one way with 2 of the same with engine hatch open with 1 close just like the first set back in June.

But nevermind that odds all these are repeating the same way, all these are possible because the patch of mud is different a month and a half down.

LOL, no wonder you buy every crap Russian are selling. :lol::lol:
 
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M2 Bradley was geolocated to this location east of Robotyne. Ukraine continues to push south
 
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Robotyne has 3 layers of defence

Robotyne itself is the first line of defence in a much wider front

sorry but Ukraine has a long way to go before it "breaks" throughl the Russian lines of defence

Leopard takes a hit at Robotyne


Tokmak is the main strategic target, which lies around 20km from Robotnye. If the AFU takes Tokmak, things really start to fall apart for Russia in southern Ukraine. It’s a hard slog, but we already knew that.

The key is Ukraine still has the vast majority of its offensive capability.
 
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Tokmak is the main strategic target, which lies around 20km from Robotnye. If the AFU takes Tokmak, things really start to fall apart for Russia in southern Ukraine. It’s a hard slog, but we already knew that.

The key is Ukraine still has the vast majority of its offensive capability.


Finally after so much slaughter the Western “Allies “ of Ukraine have given them mine clearing equipment and this one is even unmanned

And also using a manned one with smoke screen

West has known the minefields are there from day 1 and they sent Ukrainians in dying for no reason

Hope they can get more of these but you can trust a snake but not the West


 
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Ukraine’s new Bradley Fighting Vehicles face damage and quick repairs​

ZAPORIZHZHIA REGION, Ukraine — The Ukrainian commander of the Bradley infantry fighting vehicle was unloading troops at the front and then planned to transport three injured soldiers back to a field hospital. “But in that one minute, you suddenly have 30, 40, 50 shells flying in — everything explodes, soil is flying around, everything lights up,” said the commander, who asked to be identified by his call sign, CZ, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol.

The Bradley — a heavily armed troop transporter that can destroy other armored vehicles — was damaged by shrapnel, but CZ and his crew survived. In the opening month of Ukraine’s long-anticipated counteroffensive, newly provided Bradleys and German Leopard tanks — predictably — have taken hits.

About a dozen Bradleys have been destroyed, a senior U.S. defense official said. Data from Oryx, a military analysis site that counts losses it has visually confirmed, shows that a couple dozen more have been damaged to varying degrees. Many have been fixed and returned to the battlefield. Some must be sent to Poland for more extensive repairs.

CZ’s vehicle is now nestled in a wooded area in Ukraine’s southeastern Zaporizhzhia region, one of several secret locations near the front line where the 47th Mechanized Brigade rushes to repair its new Western weaponry.
The 47th Brigade, the only unit known to have received the Bradleys, was set to get 99 before the start of the counteroffensive, according to leaked U.S. intelligence documents. The United States has committed 190 Bradleys overall, with more than half delivered to operational units in Ukraine, said the official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the issue.

The U.S. military typically considers a vehicle destroyed when it cannot be salvaged or refurbished after what is commonly called a “catastrophic kill,” though some parts could still be stripped. Damaged vehicles can be recovered and repaired to working condition.

Losses of equipment were expected — and have not rattled Ukrainian commanders who said any hopes that the new weaponry would overwhelm the Russians were misplaced. In a recent interview with The Washington Post, Gen. Valery Zaluzhny, Ukraine’s military chief, said Kyiv didn’t get the vehicles to ride them in parades, and on the battlefield, they’re targets. “Yes, we lose them. Not much, let’s say, but there are losses. You can’t get away from that,” he said.

“It’s a normal phenomenon,” Zaluzhny said. “Don’t treat the Leopard as a panacea — that a battalion of Leopards will decide the outcome of this war. Why all of a sudden? Who’s the one who decided that it’s going to solve it?”

But even amid the early damage, Ukrainian troops have experienced the benefits of the new equipment. In the biggest plus, soldiers said, the Bradley protects everyone inside — typically, soldiers suffer just minor injuries if the vehicle hits an antitank mine, for example. Each Bradley is designed to carry a three-person crew and six soldiers as passengers.

In a post on Facebook, Oleg Sentsov, a Ukrainian filmmaker and platoon commander in the 47th Brigade, wrote that he came under heavy artillery fire on a combat mission over the weekend. Sentsov and others were wounded by shrapnel, but “Bradley saved our lives again,” he said.

However, “there are a lot, a lot, a lot of mines — not thousands, but hundreds of thousands,” CZ said.

And Bradleys will stop because of damaged tracks depending on what kind of mine they run into, limiting the Ukrainians’ ability to breach the Russians’ defenses with them. Most of the Bradleys getting repaired — reporters from The Post saw at least six at the wooded location they visited — were damaged by mine explosions.

The fighting vehicles were meant to be used in a strategy called combined arms, in which infantry, armor and aviation units work in concert to protect one another and inflict maximum violence. Ukrainian troops received U.S.-led combined arms training in Germany to shed Soviet-era habits of units operating in a vacuum without close coordination.

Ukrainian units have in many cases used the Bradleys as part of that philosophy, the senior U.S. defense official said. But there are anecdotal reports to the contrary, too. Ukraine also still does not have extensive air capabilities.

In some cases, Ukrainian units are “just not using them to their fullest potential with all their other assets that they have available,” the official said. It could be that some commanders feel more comfortable with how they were originally taught and fall back on that experience, the official said.

Ukrainian military personnel have described a change in strategy after some early equipment losses. Because of the dense minefields that will damage the vehicles, soldiers are now advancing in small groups and in foot.

Some Bradley repairs can take just a few hours. Others need a few days. Some vehicles are labeled “donors,” meaning the Ukrainians will strip out the usable parts to install in other, less-damaged Bradleys and then fill the donor vehicle with the broken bits before shipping it off for a larger-scale repair at the facility in Poland. One early limitation for how quickly the Ukrainians can fix the Bradleys and get them back on the battlefield: not enough spare parts, military personnel said.

Any request for spare parts has to be made formally to a senior commander, who has a limited reserve and multiple units that need them. An American M109A6 Paladin self-propelled howitzer is currently not in use by the 47th Brigade because of a mechanical issue that the soldiers do not yet have the parts to fix.

The U.S. official was unaware of issues that affected the delivery of parts from U.S. stocks and suggested bottlenecks could exist within the Ukrainian supply chain.

“When the first Bradleys came in for repairs, the decision of, ‘Is this one a donor or not’ wasn’t being made yet,” said the chief of staff for the 47th Brigade’s repair and recovery battalion, whose call sign is Maz. “So where do we get the spare parts from? When the donors started appearing from which we could take the spare parts, then we started fully repairing them. But before donors, we were just doing minimal repairs and waiting for others to be damaged.”

The fewer vehicles that have to be sent to Poland for major repairs, the “more lives saved,” Maz said, because troops cannot afford to wait weeks for a Bradley to return to the front line. Training at a U.S. base in Germany earlier this year taught Maz and others from the 47th not just how to operate the Bradleys but also how to fix them.

“When I chose my crew, I made sure that the ones I picked loved technical equipment,” Maz said. “A tractor driver who has worked on the fields, or a trucker, who lives this stuff. I sometimes give them so much s--- for their work. I tell them, ‘This is like your house, you should be able to sit there in slippers.’”

Fewer than a dozen Bradleys have been sent to Poland for repair, the U.S. defense official said, and in some cases fresh vehicles were sent to replace those shipped out instead of waiting on repairs. Gen. Mark A. Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, hinted Tuesday at a news conference at those unused stocks, describing a “robust Ukrainian reserve force [that] lies in wait to be committed at the optimal time and place of Ukrainian choosing.”

Just as the Ukrainians often publish photos and videos showing destroyed Russian equipment — some burned tanks and fighting vehicles have even been displayed in downtown Kyiv for people to take photos with — Russian forces have circulated drone images of damaged Bradleys and Leopards to embarrass the Ukrainians and try to undermine the West’s pledge to continue supplying Kyiv with the expensive materiel.

A cluster of Ukrainian vehicles got trapped in a minefield during the first days of the counteroffensive and was then attacked by Russian helicopters overhead. The image of the destroyed Bradleys and Leopards was then circulated widely by Russian accounts on the Telegram social messaging app. Ukrainian forces have since changed tactics — clearing pathways of mines manually and then advancing by foot — to better safeguard the equipment.

Defense Minister Oleksii Reznikov said Ukraine does not hide how much Western-provided materiel is destroyed or damaged, relaying those numbers to partners. “In every new aid package, we’re getting spare parts,” he said.

“For now, we’re able to repair them ourselves, and even if there is some damage, our crews are repairing it,” Reznikov added. “Very few have been completely destroyed.”


Bradleys are much better than Russian BMPs.

And Ukraine is making Bradleys even more survivable:


Russians have mined entire sectors because they cannot fight these vehicles head on. But Ukrainian forces will clear these mines with cluster munitions.

 
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We have seen Apaches take out T72

Now we have seen Russian attack helicopters take out Bradley with Vikhr missile

Seems like Russia has a field day today taking out a lot of Western equipment

That's not a bradley. Unless the soldier standing next to it are all 8 ft tall. They were over 2/3 of the height of the vehicle, nearly over the turret and have the same height of the vehicle

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Bradley are 3 meters tall (or 10 ft straightly); I am 6 ft (185cm) and when I stand next to my Bradley I barely go up to the base of the turret. those guy are above the turret, again, unless all 4 men are 8 ft tall. You would go over 3/4 of a 10 ft vehicle.

Also, there are a box on the side of the turret on an otherwise rounded turret, that's where the TOW missile is, I don't see the square box in this photo, this looks more like a BMP 3 to me than a Bradley. BMP 3 height are 8 ft.
 
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That's not a bradley. Unless the soldier standing next to it are all 8 ft tall. They were over 2/3 of the height of the vehicle, nearly over the turret and have the same height of the vehicle

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Bradley are 3 meters tall (or 10 ft straightly); I am 6 ft (185cm) and when I stand next to my Bradley I barely go up to the base of the turret. those guy are above the turret, again, unless all 4 men are 8 ft tall. You would go over 3/4 of a 10 ft vehicle.

Also, there are a box on the side of the turret on an otherwise rounded turret, that's where the TOW missile is, I don't see the square box in this photo, this looks more like a BMP 3 to me than a Bradley. BMP 3 height are 8 ft.


well to be fair we don't know what the terrain is like it could be sitting on lower ground

Leopards and Bradley’s taking a heavy beating

 
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