First Block 2 JF-17s under construction in Pakistan

[EagleEyes]

I agree with you, JF-17 BL-1 do not carry BVR weapon, all those pic shown are of testing planes.

Please provide your source. And they can't be modified?

 

[Shabi1]

Please provide your source. And they can't be modified?

It was in one of the scanned magazine interviews with the test pilots, was a detailed one in which he named the weapon stations, said they are already equipped with the required data bus, needed mostly a software update. You can search it up if you don't believe me. Will post it if I come across it again, but don't have the time to do it right now.

http://www.***************/pictures/data/3231/medium/JF-17-with-SD-10-BVR-01.jpg

 

[Windjammer]

This is what AVM (R) Shahid Lateef, once chief project director of JF-17 programme disclosed in a 2012 interview which i posted elsewhere on this forum.

Q: One out of your achievements has been successful development and delivery of JF-17 aircraft. What makes it a potent fighter plane and can it be considered as mainstay of PAF in the future?
F-16 is the most advanced plane we have in PAF. However, it can be paralyzed by Americans as a result of any friction with them as we saw during the sanctions imposed in early 90s. Therefore, we really need to have an indigenous aircraft which fits in the modern category.
JF-17 Thunder is an answer to address such apprehensions and future challenges. It is a beautifully designed aircraft with great capabilities like long range radar, comprehensive avionics package, BVR capability, glass cockpit and many other features we mostly see in the latest generation aircraft. It is to be noted that the aircraft is designed on US specs in order to make it attractive in the international market. It has a modern avionics architecture that is compatible with the universal standards, allowing easy integration of any Western equipment with plug-and-play capability. The aircraft is designed on a block-building concept that permits regular upgrades like the F-16 in order to keep the platform relevant with time and in sync with the changing technology.
Air power is likely to play a decisive role in any future conflict as witnessed over the last two decades. Against this background, the JF-17 occupies a central position in the defence of our country and will remain the backbone and life line of the PAF.

 

[Mugwop]

@Windjammer
The block 2's RCS is reduced right?

 

[Windjammer]

@Windjammer
The block 2's RCS is reduced right?

Allegedly.

 

[Emmie]

Stick to the topic or get thread banned.... Choice is all yours.

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

This is what AVM (R) Shahid Lateef, once chief project director of JF-17 programme disclosed in a 2012 interview which i posted elsewhere on this forum.

yes, agree .... but then why not their is a single pic of flying PAF plane with BVR missiles? Isn't plane flying with Full Weapon load is excellent PR / Selling point? OR PAF is not flying plane with BVR A2A and want to keep its a very secret and only give surprise in last moment.


Well defence forces knows to glorify point and hide weak point, Namely PA army declared every missile test a success @100% in all tests, but later we came to know about tests actually. So PAK defence forces are in very low credibility state as of now.

Like wise , you see PAF plane flying with Short Rage IR A2A missiles, but why not a single PIC of PAF flying BVR A2A missile? are they want to keep its secret ? Might be future will be carry BVR , might be BL-II , thats why PAF stopped production till 2 years of JF-17. thats explains a lot.

Please provide your source. And they can't be modified?

please show me PAF plane flying with BVR missiles? do you have?

Many things said but nothing concerts in terms of Video and flying PIC.

 

[Chak Bamu]

please show me PAF plane flying with BVR missiles? do you have?

Many things said but nothing concerts in terms of Video and flying PIC.

That sounds so very desperate.

Like saying that it is only a Mig21; like saying Pakistan would never get RD-93; like saying that it is a blunder. Don't your kind tire of saying BS and then be proven wrong again and again and again?

PAF is not in the business of telling everyone each little thing about current capability. If they were, they would not be doing their job.

 

[MastanKhan]

when aircraft body wears out, can they use parts in different jet? like aesa or computer etc

Hi,

Thanks for your post---it reminded of the trips I took to the junkyards in Bilalganj and karachi---. Yes and no----. If they have the same parts---parts can be used on newer planes that need servicing----but they are not installed on new planes. They are used on the planes of similar vintage.

 

[slapshot]

Allegedly.

really? I thought addition of IFR prob may increase RCS

 

[Alfa-Fighter]

LCA is to replace Mig21 (which is clearly very old junk) and was intended to be backbone. You ended buying hundreds of dual fighterjets... I mean, let us be honest. You cannot build Arjun (which is basicly Leopard), you cannot build AJT (advanced jet trainer), you cannot build IJT hell you cannot build even a prop basic trainer... How can you compete with us where we build Mushaq (for decades and export it), K8 (one of the (or even the) best selling trainer AJT/IJT) and nog JF17 (which will sell as we offer dual seater)... Get buying Makhi, Rafales or whatever... You need them cause you cannot make something your own. Even if you get full assistance of everyone... I mean even the Russians, French and UK do not trust your quality of assembling their planes... What do you expect? If I were you I would stay eating curry dishes but stop acting like a big D...

Sir,your K-8 Pakistan and the People's Republic of China unveiled a decision in 1986 to jointly build the K-8 with Pakistan providing 25% funding for the project. In china it is knows as JL-8
Hongdu JL-8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You want to tell the world now that china can't make trainer plane also and it uses PAK trainer?

So in-fact K-8 is Chinese design Plane which PAK is lic to produce , So don't provide False claim. and you JF-17, India is making SU-30 MKI since decade...... don't you even know ,SU-30MKI , engine also now being made in India, You can't even make JF-17 engine.

Stop living in Denial , IF you quote JF-17 and K8 Chinese Plane , compare it with our twin engine Su-30 MKI and Yes, SU-30 MKI engine is now made in India. Can you make Engines of your JF-17?

Su -30 MKI is made for India , designed changes from Su-27 to meed Indian requirement and Indian paid Russia for this and Indian engineers also involved for Designing. More then 90% of Su-30 MKI is now, Made in India. not unlike JF-17 which many components came from china.

So Stop living in denial and fact with rights facts .....

Everyone trust thats why EU, US and France is after India to sign contract..... Infact US ready to give more superior F-16 to india then what it can suppled to PAK. India asking for core technology and it will get core technology.

That sounds so very desperate.

Like saying that it is only a Mig21; like saying Pakistan would never get RD-93; like saying that it is a blunder. Don't your kind tire of saying BS and then be proven wrong again and again and again?

PAF is not in the business of telling everyone each little thing about current capability. If they were, they would not be doing their job.

Well , RD-93 , that it come with WS-13 engine bla bla and kavari engine flop and we made engine bla bla bla, what happen to that tall claims?

RD-93 is given since IAF going to retire RD-93 engine , so their is no direct competition.

Be mature , If PAF can show Pic with Short range A2A then why not with BVR A2A , this clearly shows it don't have that capability yet.

Why JF-17 production was stopped for 2 years if it so successful plane? and it take 2 years to make BL-II plane only to modify superficial things? Don't make fool and accept reality. Like you people earlier contested about nuke bomb design is PAK made and after a decade or so you people proved Wrong again.

And BVR is not Secret super weapons that PAF can hide. IF JF-17 fly with BVR missile it can be captured though lenses and PAF would have displayed proudly.

 

[Tehmasib]

12 years old my daughter make this to dedicate JF-17 Blk 2.......

 

[dexter]

12 years old my daughter make this to dedicate JF-17 Blk 2.......

WOW very nice sketch
your daughter is MashaALLAH talented

 

[VelocuR]

JF-17 production stopped for two years? many components from China or Su-MKI made in India? Are you looking better or stupid?

Well said. It seems you or any Indians know nothing about Pakistan progress. We have no time to answer these trolls on every questions, welcome to ignore list.

Sir,your K-8 Pakistan and the People's Republic of China unveiled a decision in 1986 to jointly build the K-8 with Pakistan providing 25% funding for the project. In china it is knows as JL-8
Hongdu JL-8 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You want to tell the world now that china can't make trainer plane also and it uses PAK trainer?

So in-fact K-8 is Chinese design Plane which PAK is lic to produce , So don't provide False claim. and you JF-17, India is making SU-30 MKI since decade...... don't you even know ,SU-30MKI , engine also now being made in India, You can't even make JF-17 engine.

Stop living in Denial , IF you quote JF-17 and K8 Chinese Plane , compare it with our twin engine Su-30 MKI and Yes, SU-30 MKI engine is now made in India. Can you make Engines of your JF-17?

Su -30 MKI is made for India , designed changes from Su-27 to meed Indian requirement and Indian paid Russia for this and Indian engineers also involved for Designing. More then 90% of Su-30 MKI is now, Made in India. not unlike JF-17 which many components came from china.

So Stop living in denial and fact with rights facts .....

Everyone trust thats why EU, US and France is after India to sign contract..... Infact US ready to give more superior F-16 to india then what it can suppled to PAK. India asking for core technology and it will get core technology.


Well , RD-93 , that it come with WS-13 engine bla bla and kavari engine flop and we made engine bla bla bla, what happen to that tall claims?

RD-93 is given since IAF going to retire RD-93 engine , so their is no direct competition.

Be mature , If PAF can show Pic with Short range A2A then why not with BVR A2A , this clearly shows it don't have that capability yet.

Why JF-17 production was stopped for 2 years if it so successful plane? and it take 2 years to make BL-II plane only to modify superficial things? Don't make fool and accept reality. Like you people earlier contested about nuke bomb design is PAK made and after a decade or so you people proved Wrong again.

And BVR is not Secret super weapons that PAF can hide. IF JF-17 fly with BVR missile it can be captured though lenses and PAF would have displayed proudly.

 

[silent poison]

JF-17 production stopped for two years? many components from China or Su-MKI made in India? Are you looking better or stupid?

Well said. It seems you or any Indians know nothing about Pakistan progress. We have no time to answer these trolls on every questions, welcome to ignore list.

Presently HAL is manufacturing the aircraft from raw material phase and till date has produced 150 aircraft. HAL has manufactured approximately 43,000 components in airframe and 6,300 components for engines. Twenty six special technologies have been absorbed and mastered. With this, 70% components are now made in India by HAL with 100% technology absorption as per the contract in airframe and engine. IAF Warehouse At HAL, Nasik Inaugurated