first arjun now this, another catatrophy from DRDO

[Kinetic]

Acha acha laghey raho DRDO / HAL is the best OK

aese kaesy....

DRDO Jinda Baad

More AESA....

How many do you want??

 

[Maarkhoor]

aese kaesy....



More AESA....

How many do you want??

You forget to mention this

 

[Point_4590]

aese kaesy....



More AESA....

How many do you want??

lamo you a quoting a guy who is comparing Akash with S 400

 

[Kinetic]

You forget to mention this

Thats NOT ENOUGH... most advanced chopper

 

[Point_4590]

Thats NOT ENOUGH... most advanced chopper

More idotic musing and this is back in 2003




“Pakistan’s space programme is now ahead of India after the formal launching of Paksat-I and this is due to the hard work of our scientists and I am sure Indians would take another 30 months to do the job,”

Gen Musharraf

 

[shah1398]

Dont get me wrong, MKI is to us like JF-17 to you. LCA Tejas helps India more than MKI. Its delayed but created a huge R&D base for us.

No one is denying that fact. Like i said earlier, reality can never be denied.

 

[Blue Marlin]

Sir U mean this?I have deliberately not made changes in the wordings as there are dew instances which give doubling meaning if changed a bit.


German MTU engineers talk about China and India's industrial ~~~~~ Tank Engine

Author: Alan Newman (German MTU engine mechanical power joint venture company an integral part of the original design engineer, moved to the US in 2006) in my work experience, I am impressed countries, not my own country, but India and China. 　　These two countries, I have all worked there. Early on, I was responsible for the introduction of diesel power assist Chinese companies MTU tank systems. Where time, I was with my Chinese colleagues. Together for the Chinese to introduce production-line work, but daily busy. I am not a military strategist, but I am a technical design engineer. I know very well my duties. Chinese People's engine plant, manufacturing and production patterns, and even their daily life, have a very strict militarization color. We in the production or the development process, not speed quickly. We need to key parts of almost every period stopped, waiting for a review of the PLA to wear the rank of colonel and the acceptance of his supervisors, then you can say, "is the ultimate command." However, he is not an ordinary soldier, he, like me, is a tank of diesel power systems expert. Work here are very rigorous schedule, but you do not have what you need to do tomorrow? Away distressed. Workflow log form, will rest until that evening, sent to your hands. Accurate and very very efficient. I know Chinese people smart features, in the workshop, they do not need to manufacture my own hands, but to act as a preaching doctrine. The seven young Chinese technical personnel in obey my instructions. I can do the first test. Chinese people in arms production, before stringent than it is now, with caution. Even some cramped uncertain. Young must follow my instructions to complete their work has been arranged. This gives me a lot of pressure. I am a professional and technical personnel, is not a qualified manager. Thus, in the "command" period, I always make my own regret some mistakes, but they do not seem any comments dissatisfaction. 　　Chinese people's security system, in the military apparatus, is very appropriate. Their parts like Germany itself has a sound management system, the lack of time the computer is just too small, artificial lot. At that time the Chinese operation and management records, many are relying on people's handwriting to complete. Although I do not know who block fonts (Chinese) meaning. However, the front label is in accordance with German standard parts numbers later endorsed by the station number, production name, date, place library position number. In the last box, write the name of managers. It is worth noting that even a screw almost has his strict numbering system.Treasury management staff, must know that the number of those warehouse store numbers. And all of this is to rely on early labor. In the late Chinese military enterprises in the extensive use of the computer system. Staff seems to be improving the degree of labor. But they gave me a deep impression. They seem to be able to find out the wrong computer entry staff. They record the data inside the brain, but also more accurate than DBASIII database system. Almost no errors. In mid-month, they want to compete, the project mainly comparisons recording capability. 1 person say a part number, the study must answer within seconds his number, production date, station number, and the introduction or domestic sources, the undersigned. and many more! My mind can not so rich. 　　Overall, the Chinese military gave me the impression that objective, rigorous and regular. This is a composite of us who are in other European countries, known as: "the rigid German guy" of the German people's work habits. This is my biggest impression. In addition, behind only a noun for the Chinese people, not a verb.Thus, the first China-made diesel MTU885A, after the two sides inspection and test, quality products are fully qualified. In China and Pakistan jointly developed "Khalid" in the early stage of the development of India began to declare, "Arjun" main battle tanks. Indians and Chinese people take the same approach, almost imitate, India's own needs all parts can be produced. In the later development of the 1.1-megawatt diesel in India, without success. Therefore, we had to choose our MTU883B. And MTU883B our production line to give the Chinese people the original model. Not as good as the introduction of the Chinese people MTU885A performance MTU883B. 　　However, after we reached there, I saw the Chinese people are almost completely different scene. Indians do things, too assertive and superficial. They do not have the kind of rigorous modesty Chinese people's work habits, they are accustomed to catching up, but without any real power. They appoint technical staff, in fact, low technical capacity, simply contrast heaven and hell and the Chinese people gave me this impression. Indian management model is copy the Anglo-American form, but confusion and mistakes has become synonymous here. They did not exactly guarantee management system. No one seems to care about the development of parts and components.But the biggest difference is that the Indians seem difficult to communicate with me on our guard than their attitude of cooperation to be much larger. We were placed in high-end residential, there is simply no longer the venue. We just were ordered to bow to produce a part or develop a product, but we do not know that he would be used "tank" of the site. Some are guessing. My previous work experience almost, are abandoned. It works for me, just like DB language instruction is executed. 　　We power machinery, is a joint production with India. In the test repeatedly, test, there is a big power system is simply a serious problem. MTU883B is a medium-sized diesel engines, he is not suitable for installation on combat weight over 45 ton main battle tanks. The Chinese people use this engine is placed on the total weight of 40 tons of T79 / 69 tanks. Very reasonable. But Arjun initial data submitted by the Indian military is 45 tons. MTU883B power has exceeded the carrying capacity. The most frustrating is that the so-called production supervision India. They can muddle with illegible address some major problems. Torque is insufficient for the problem seems to be turning a blind eye, did not make the appropriate explanation reports. Such a machine out, weighing 50 tons placed on the chariot, the chariot of the body is assisted by Claudia · Maffei company design. Chariot pilot action carried out only one time, afterburner speed start time, nearly 15 minutes, hardly any motorized chariot can explain. MTU883B is a good motivation, but first he was given the ability to transcend their own body, and secondly, with the drive way with him, because of the adoption of our MTY12 type power transmission. However, the blind pursuit of the so-called Indians "all advanced." And the face of Pakistan, "Khalid" rate of progress, it is also greatly reduce test time. 　　This year, when I heard the Indian government officially announced the end of the message in the future development of main battle tanks, I think their decision was correct, but a decision is to late. Almost no one in the country to develop second generation tank capacity on an industrial basis, the first self-developed starting point, on positioning and overtake the German "Leopard IIA4" main battle tanks. But also on all of the advanced and body proportion. It is inconceivable folly. Panther tank, weight far beyond China and India, and even Russia. So he can get so protective. 　　Germany and India are different. In our there, our ordinary roads and railroad tracks, bridges and culverts carrying 60-ton tanks, it is possible. German designer is in accordance with the standard design. However, in India, and their 42-ton bridge carrying tanks is dangerous extent. How can the leopard II's body, to get their local community? In China, the Chinese people for their own basic industries, including construction. They are very clear. Chinese north-south span of considerable magnitude. Along with different climate. Therefore, the Chinese production of two kinds of people in different parts of China for chariot. But even China's most important 99 tanks, today did not reach the German 58-ton limit. The fast light tanks used by the South China T1962 model. Just 20 tons. 　　However, Chinese people are relying on their own to build T54 / T55 successes to come out. Their infrastructure, than India to perfect the system closer to us, more superior. Features and technical personnel, is smart and very strong stand. Acceptance and mix well. They are free to improve their car. Great freedom. This is the character of the Chinese character is a certain relationship with the Indians. 　　China and India in the development of the chariot, one is marching steady, heavy footsteps, and yet slow pace of progress. The other is a blind random running forward, ending naturally very clear. China currently developed 99 type tanks, the overall performance, beyond the former Soviet Union, has been comparable to the West chariot. The independent tanks in India, but in the year ended. This may be the fundamental difference between healthy and running around the Indian production environment Aqiongtanke

thanks pall that was a good read

 

[Blue Marlin]

And I can post recent articles of Tejas getting even more orders in the form of Tejas Mark 1A under this gov.

Fact is Tejas is in production, Arjun is inducted and there are already 40 mark 2s already produced.

Now read this -

Rustom-1 drone to monitor maritime boundary with Lanka | Business Standard News

For that reason, the navy has welcomed the DRDO's plan to modify the Rustom-1 for this task by fitting it with AIS. The Rustom-1 was never intended to enter service; it was meant to be a "flying test bed" for proving sensors and data links that would be fitted onto the Rustom-2, which would be operationally deployed.

And it's still acting as a test bed, like this example of it doing taxi runs with Helinas. Was a armed Rustom 1 ever on the cards? Of course not.

Dont act like you know what you're even talking about.

hold up that rustom looks just like a ch-3/ burraq. so its pakistan taking influence from china where india is coppying pakistan. it looks very similar to the buraq

the differance is the flir on the buraq is bigger where as the rustom is smaller. and the rustom has a spinal communications trancever/reciver where as the burraq has its communications in the foward compartmnet, hences explaing the slight bulge on the top foward compartment of the ucav.

i would go more indepth but im on the road right now

 

[Arsalan]

round and round---and round we go---
where we end up---nobody knows
D R D R D R Do ( it reads like---dee are dee are dee are dau )
Hooray Hooray Hooray Ho

The flag is flapping in the wind
We all are working for our beloved 'Hind'
So make the funding keep on rolling
And let the critics keep on trolling
'Make in India is the call'
So let's get together and stand tall

I got to feed my family too,
I cannot make it in a year or two
It will take a decade or two
Patience and virtue for you all
'Make in India is the call'
D R D R D R Do ( it reads dee are dee are dee are dau )
Hoorray Hooray Hoorray Ho

Sir is it official anthem of DRDO or you made it up?

 

[Dash]

Paksat-1 was built in China.

A giant middle finger for Mushy, the stupid.

She is a beaut!!...

 

[Blue Marlin]

Thats NOT ENOUGH... most advanced chopper

ahh i was waiting for somone to bring that up...
i checked that up and i found that its the norm for pakistani citizen to make their own helicopters or avation kits.
the pic you post above is an example of a man made light chopper made by a normal pakistani citezen.

below are more example of man made things

so when you posted that picture, what your actually saying is look at how tallent people are making things with very little money and no experiance. its nothing to be ashamed of.

 

[thrilainmanila]

Trying to develop, what? It was developed and deployed, the one that crashed was an old inducted platform.

Only thing in development is Rustom 1, 2, AURA.

You can divide that in two, when you talk of the Indian context. Because the culture in public and Indian private firms is a case study in itself.

that looks like a pretty lethal UAV....if it can actually take off fly and finally enter service.

 

[cloud_digger]

hold up that rustom looks just like a ch-3/ burraq. so its pakistan taking influence from china where india is coppying pakistan. it looks very similar to the buraq

the differance is the flir on the buraq is bigger where as the rustom is smaller. and the rustom has a spinal communications trancever/reciver where as the burraq has its communications in the foward compartmnet, hences explaing the slight bulge on the top foward compartment of the ucav.

i would go more indepth but im on the road right now

Mmmmm, very subtle trolling?? This design is not inspired by the Chinese nor is it copied from Pakistan. This design (and the Chinese and pak designs) are inspired by Rutan_Long-EZ a design created by Burt Rutan.

Don't bother going in any more in depth details if all you intend is to troll.

 

[cloud_digger]

ahh i was waiting for somone to bring that up...
i checked that up and i found that its the norm for pakistani citizen to make their own helicopters or avation kits.
the pic you post above is an example of a man made light chopper made by a normal pakistani citezen.

below are more example of man made things

so when you posted that picture, what your actually saying is look at how tallent people are making things with very little money and no experiance. its nothing to be ashamed of.

They are not mocking the people who are making these ingenious machines, rather the fact that despite all their DRDO and india bashing, the best any in their country can come up with is this. They don't have the right to poke fun at our achievements when they have not come close to what we have done on our own.

Edit: this is not the norm for Pakistani citizens to make their own copters, it's the passion of some ingenious people. You will find such people in all the countries. Please don't hype it up as something you see in every Pakistani. Not that I am taking away anything from their achievement, rather the opposite, these people are few and rare, and frankly should be given more attention by their government/scientific community.

 

[EAK]

They are not mocking the people who are making these ingenious machines, rather the fact that despite all their DRDO and india bashing, the best any in their country can come up with is this. They don't have the right to poke fun at our achievements when they have not come close to what we have done on our own.

LOL.. Yap all that vedic stuff,star fighter teja and brahmos the indigenous.we are far behind .. DRDO mata ki JAI HO.