Firing between Pak-Afghan forces at Torkham border

[Ghareeb_Da_Baal]

Pakistani TV media channels are reporting that firing still continuous.

which channel?

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

which channel?

Most of the news channels half an hour back were running a news strip regarding it.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Time to test burraq

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Send those thankless afghan back to their country .

 

[Lone Ranger]

Geo news reporting:

6 civilians injured including 2 children
1 FC and 2 khasadar force personnel injured

 

[Skyliner]

Let's pray for our Brothers at border
ALLAH un sab ke hifazat farmae, Takat or himmat atta farmae.
Ameen

 

[Bratva]

So do the Pakistani side. There is a video of talks between Afghan commander of border forces and FC's officer, talking in Pashto when Taliban attack Pakistani post. The Afghan kumand-dar reminds the Pakistani officer that 1000 houses or families of Afghans on border have migrated elsewhere due to shellings from Pakistan on their villages, why they target civilians?. The Pakistani officers remains silent and do not deny it. Afghanistan's media shows the details about casualties of civilians that they had to suffer at the hands of Pakistani shellings. The destroyed houses from shellings and angry villagers in those videos, are obviously not fake. Onion , be a real and honest journalist, not mouth-piece of ISI. The artillery shelling have very long range, there is no guarantee that it will not fall on civilian population. Pakistani forces also have targeted Afghan villages, claiming that they were sheltering TTP. Pakistani forces who bomb their own villages, why they will be shy about shelling the villages of Afghanistan?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1790884477791319

And how do these innocent villagers and this brave Afghani kumander doesnot see or take action against group of 100-200 talibans crossing afghani borders and attacking Pakistani check posts in lower,upper dir, In north waziristan, In khyber, In Sawat, In Mohmand, In South waziristan ? If you cant control your own side of border than its better not to moan when Pakistan takes action against those TTP hoarders attacking in large groups and then running back into afghanistan without any resistance from such Afghani kum-anders

 

[Lucky Breeze]

I just want to know, either we are pushing forward with tanks or not .......

desperate

 

[Bratva]

Cease fire agreed apparently.

Why dont you resolve Bacha Baazi and Drug addiction problems from your society before declaring Pakistanis daal khor, physically inferior beings ? Due to bacha baazi, your women are being left hung out to dry and you better know if women doesnt get stasfied she usually look towards neigbors to stasify her needs. Get it through your thick head, Afghanis are residing on Pakistani land. There is no afghani land pakistan is occupying

 

[shah1398]

So do the Pakistani side. There is a video of talks between Afghan commander of border forces and FC's officer, talking in Pashto when Taliban attack Pakistani post. The Afghan kumand-dar reminds the Pakistani officer that 1000 houses or families of Afghans on border have migrated elsewhere due to shellings from Pakistan on their villages, why they target civilians?. The Pakistani officers remains silent and do not deny it. Afghanistan's media shows the details about casualties of civilians that they had to suffer at the hands of Pakistani shellings. The destroyed houses from shellings and angry villagers in those videos, are obviously not fake. Onion , be a real and honest journalist, not mouth-piece of ISI. The artillery shelling have very long range, there is no guarantee that it will not fall on civilian population. Pakistani forces also have targeted Afghan villages, claiming that they were sheltering TTP. Pakistani forces who bomb their own villages, why they will be shy about shelling the villages of Afghanistan?

Please allow me to explain the conversation. Afghans were invited by the Pakistani side here to hear their complaints about Pakistan and resolve issues. Pakistani Officers here are just listening to them and noting their grievances to be sent ahead to superiors. The Afghan guy is all emotional throughout and it was never wise to respond to his allegations with allegations at that time but when it was enough for the Pakistani guys then they did show him mirror and then he was out of track again. As usual he is saying the same thing that Mr Sartaj Aziz said that Pakistan is sheltering the top commanders of ATs, also said that OBL etc were found on ur soil and U are creating problems for us. When told that we are even treating your soldiers then he responded that we were attacked in an area where our 300 soldiers got injured and 100 died and he blamed Pakistan for this. He is not even listening to the explanation of Pakistani guy that we dont have forward positions over there then how come we have crossed your posts and attacked such a big gathering of yours? But he doesnt listen. When told that someone passes through your post and U dont even respond to that but wud just blame us for who is coming from your side and attacking U....the guy again goes to OBL. Now Pakistani side responds and When asked all those talis U are feeding by slaughtering sheep for them, he is not even listening... After that he is being precisely told where are talis camping along your posts and how U guys are feeding them and doing meetings with them, given ID cards for smooth crossing from Afghan side....long silence.....Afghan guy is asked about solution to all this then he proposes that we shud not hit on each other territory, when asked that what about fire coming from your area, he adamant we shud not hit at each others area. Yes he does mention of about thousand guys that have been forced to migrate from their area, to that the Pakistani guy says that when fire is coming on us from that area and U are doing nothing to stop it then what should we do? Why dont U stop the fire coming from that area? Afghani guy says again that no we shud not fire at each other....Pakistani guy tells him that we are here to solve problems with each other and if U start talking about Palestine, Chechnya etc then whats the fun in it... After that few formal sentences and video culminates.

 

[A.M.]

Why does Afghanistan have a problem with building of a fence or gate? None of this BS started until the construction started.

You can't blame Pakistan for having a porous border and then also blame us for taking actions to secure it.

Good luck PA. Happy hunting anyone who stands in your way of bringing peace to our side of the border.

 

[Mrc]

happy hunting ...

hunt season self delusional ducks living in a fantacy wold of racial superiority (while being under occupation for most of the last half century) is on....

 

[shah1398]

Why does Afghanistan have a problem with building of a fence or gate? None of this BS started until the construction started.

Because Kabul does not recognize Durand Line as formal border and claims area almost till Attock as its own territory. Fencing the border means its an International Border then.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Please allow me to explain the conversation. Afghans were invited by the Pakistani side here to hear their complaints about Pakistan and resolve issues. Pakistani Officers here are just listening to them and noting their grievances to be sent ahead to superiors. The Afghan guy is all emotional throughout and it was never wise to respond to his allegations with allegations at that time but when it was enough for the Pakistani guys then they did show him mirror and then he was out of track again. As usual he is saying the same thing that Mr Sartaj Aziz said that Pakistan is sheltering the top commanders of ATs, also said that OBL etc were found on ur soil and U are creating problems for us. When told that we are even treating your soldiers then he responded that we were attacked in an area where our 300 soldiers got injured and 100 died and he blamed Pakistan for this. He is not even listening to the explanation of Pakistani guy that we dont have forward positions over there then how come we have crossed your posts and attacked such a big gathering of yours? But he doesnt listen. When told that someone passes through your post and U dont even respond to that but wud just blame us for who is coming from your side and attacking U....the guy again goes to OBL. Now Pakistani side responds and When asked all those talis U are feeding by slaughtering sheep for them, he is not even listening... After that he is being precisely told where are talis camping along your posts and how U guys are feeding them and doing meetings with them, given ID cards for smooth crossing from Afghan side....long silence.....Afghan guy is asked about solution to all this then he proposes that we shud not hit on each other territory, when asked that what about fire coming from your area, he adamant we shud not hit at each others area. Yes he does mention of about thousand guys that have been forced to migrate from their area, to that the Pakistani guy says that when fire is coming on us from that area and U are doing nothing to stop it then what should we do? Why dont U stop the fire coming from that area? Afghani guy says again that no we shud not fire at each other....Pakistani guy tells him that we are here to solve problems with each other and if U start talking about Palestine, Chechnya etc then whats the fun in it... After that few formal sentences and video culminates.

I met an ANA major who told me, he was a fruit seller in Karachi. Most of these ANA soldiers aren't even 3rd class educated.In most militaries it takes 20 to 25 years just to reach SgtMaj rank. while in Afghanistan, 24 year old guy is the SgtMaj of a whole battalion. ANA soilders never listen to US trainer nor their chain of command, do you really think that guy talking crap really care about anything or holds any power. I think he wasn't even ANA, he was local police ANP.

 

[cleverrider]

So do the Pakistani side. There is a video of talks between Afghan commander of border forces and FC's officer, talking in Pashto when Taliban attack Pakistani post. The Afghan kumand-dar reminds the Pakistani officer that 1000 houses or families of Afghans on border have migrated elsewhere due to shellings from Pakistan on their villages, why they target civilians?. The Pakistani officers remains silent and do not deny it. Afghanistan's media shows the details about casualties of civilians that they had to suffer at the hands of Pakistani shellings. The destroyed houses from shellings and angry villagers in those videos, are obviously not fake. Onion , be a real and honest journalist, not mouth-piece of ISI. The artillery shelling have very long range, there is no guarantee that it will not fall on civilian population. Pakistani forces also have targeted Afghan villages, claiming that they were sheltering TTP. Pakistani forces who bomb their own villages, why they will be shy about shelling the villages of Afghanistan?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1790884477791319

Who invited the soviets into afghanistan, Pakistan only reacted to a situation brought to the region by Afghans. If that’s what is leading the afghan army, it won’t be long until Kabul falls again, what an emotional freak. If I was there and he continuously interrupted me like the he did to the FC guy, I would have punched him there and then. Plus his tone/accent is annoying too.

Pakistan Pashtuns especially the younger generations don’t want anything to do with Afghans and won’t give their land away to Afghanistan, the sooner you get this the better.

IF anything big happens on the border, look forward to northern alliance (afghan army) getting their A$$£$ whopped and also expect for the Pakistani pashtuns hatred to grow towards afghans in their cities.