Female warriors of Lurestan, Iran

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I think the guy was just giving the account of what British historians reported, I don't think he presented that post as his own belief. You can reject the narration of british historian and the problem is solved. Generally British historians wrote bad remarks about certain races of south asia just based on hearsay without any concrete research to paint those people in bad light and get their soldiers and loyalists to fight out their supposed "uncultured" savage enemies. They still do the same using BBC/CNN/FOX news , I observed their naked propaganda against Saddam hussain and iraq's WMD just to motivate their public and military for a forceful action against iraq in 2003.

Agreed 100%.

 

[RazPaK]

Agreed 100%.

Luffy saab, you also agree with British calling Pashtuns Martial race, while at the same time denying this account which probably is not true. Why not reject British accounts altogether, instead of being partial and picking and choosing?

 

[Imran Khan]

@Multani you are the only person from my area, Bahawalpur. Except for @Imran Khan. There is a lot of ignorance being spread around here of South Punjab.

hum kya rishta deen tujhy ? ۔ او کیا اکھدن آپنڈی زبان اچ ۔۔۔۔۔ یھدی دا نا ہووے تاں

 

[Marwat Khan Lodhi]

I also read about this story, seemed to me very cruel punishment to British soldiers nothing more. Never looked at islamic angle, if you do that then there are many practices which are illogical and anti-islamic. But if there is only one account of that event then its most likely fake.

Only one account, of john masters , an 18 year old soldier stationed at peshawer.
The Curious Practice of Execution By Golden Shower

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

Luffy saab, you also agree with British calling Pashtuns Martial race, while at the same time denying this account which probably is not true. Why not reject British accounts altogether, instead of being partial and picking and choosing?

That is indeed thought provoking point, I have also noticed a general tendency among south asians to boost their tribe or nation's martial status based on british historians narration but when the same british bring some ugly "side" of that same tribe or nation then we must have to reject it because it is unreliable, I think we need to make our choices clear when dealing with the history as written by the Brits in colonial era.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

So beghairta kamzaat, when are you saying sorry to the tribe of your favourite shahid afridi? For passing degrading remarks about their ba-pardha women (that you want to see them pants down)

Passing degrading remarks? You mean producing a historical text containing degrading remarks. There's a distinction to be made here, but I don't suppose you have the mental capacity to perform that function.

 

[Psycho Pakistani]

hum kya rishta deen tujhy ? ۔ او کیا اکھدن آپنڈی زبان اچ ۔۔۔۔۔ یھدی دا نا ہووے تاں[/quote]

Now you are provoking him to take your class

 

[RazPaK]

Only one account, of john masters , an 18 year old soldier stationed at peshawer.
The Curious Practice of Execution By Golden Shower

That's disgusting.

 

[gangsta_rap]

Why doesn't luffy ever learn and snap out of this ethnic BS?

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

Also, i think there are certainly Punjabis here who like to insult our Pakhtun brethren

If the peeing story would have been casted by the British for Punjabi Muslim women, i am sure PDF would be in uproar

i never accepted that disgusting story!

The Pakhtuns are honoourable, religious people, not animals

If the passing remark at Punjabis trying to insult the Pakhtuns was aimed at me, let me correct you. You are wrong. I merely mentioned it for the sake of academic debate because I came across it not long ago. Although I believed the account to be completely fabricated and incorrect, considering there is no other authentic account of such an abhorrent practice, I hadn't ever heard it being discussed before and so sought to do the same. Unfortunately @Marwat Khan Lodhi went apeshit like a teenage girl because he has issues controlling his temper.

Yet an indian @janon used logic and presented unbiased views, my so called countryman labeled him afghani-lover, even though john masters was talking about north-west india. The beghairat islamabadi had no good intentions at all, he started with word "pashtun women" in a thread about lur women of iran.
Kindly dont drag sikhs into it. I am sick of punjabi muslims and their issues with sikhs and hindus

Indeed. May Allah put them on right pathan. Ameen

Don't insult me by calling me your countryman. We are from two different worlds. Your choice of language is disgusting. You speak of honour when you have none yourself. You lie, you misrepresent facts and your burning hatred for the Punjabi race make you a man lost in both time and fallen in grace. John Masters was not talking about north-west India. Stop being such a fake. @janon can testify to the fact that I agreed with his post and in fact elaborated on how British historians distorted history to defame their unruly subjects. The only reason I sought to admonish him a little is because of a history we share, which you are absolutely not privy to. Wake up. You are pathetic and your insecurities stand out for everybody to see.

You are no authority on my intentions. You can't even speak without going hormonal on everybody, cussing them and being condescending. Even @Psycho Pakistani understood the context of my post. He came later and figured it out before you did. What does that say about you? You probably don't even understand this post.

Please change your flags to Afghanistan or India. Actually that would be only be insulting to them. Change your flags to nothing. Go dig yourself a grave, jump into it and kill yourself.

Also your post is blasphemous because instead of writing "May Allah guide them on the right path" as the Prophet (SAW) taught us, you wrote "May Allah guide them on the right pathan". You are a blaspheming, hypocritical coward hiding behind your screen living in a world of pretend, making inflammatory accusations and putting race before religion. The Prophet (SAW) warned against fitna like you,

 

[Imran Khan]

Now you are provoking him to take your class

i am not and he know it

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

I think the guy was just giving the account of what British historians reported, I don't think he presented that post as his own belief. You can reject the narration of british historian and the problem is solved. Generally British historians wrote bad remarks about certain races of south asia just based on hearsay without any concrete research to paint those people in bad light and get their soldiers and loyalists to fight out their supposed "uncultured" savage enemies. They still do the same using BBC/CNN/FOX news , I observed their naked propaganda against Saddam hussain and iraq's WMD just to motivate their public and military for a forceful action against iraq in 2003.

Precisely. Thank you.

 

[Desert Fox]

Wow. It takes a cinder to light a pathan on fire. Lol. Calm down, man. It's Ramadhan. So I take it you are in absolute denial of John Masters' record of the events. Fair enough.

There really is no solid evidence that supports John Masters' "record of events". For example, the other enemies of Pashtuns who had been defeated or captured, did they recall such absurd stories of Pashtun women peeing into POW's mouths??
Its the first time any of us are hearing such absurdness.

 

[RazPaK]

There really is no solid evidence that supports John Masters' "record of events". For example, the other enemies of Pashtuns who had been defeated or captured, did they recall such absurd stories of Pashtun women peeing into POW's mouths??
Its the first time any of us are hearing such absurdness.

Dem Pashtuns are peeing on people. Watch out.

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

There really is no solid evidence that supports John Masters' "record of events". For example, the other enemies of Pashtuns who had been defeated or captured, did they recall such absurd stories of Pashtun women peeing into POW's mouths??
Its the first time any of us are hearing such absurdness.

First time for me too. Most of his other work was fiction. I think it's safe to conclude that his contempt for the British subjects allowed his fictional themes to creep into all his other historical works as well.