Female warriors of Lurestan, Iran

[Desert Fox]

Passing degrading remarks? You mean producing a historical text containing degrading remarks. There's a distinction to be made here, but I don't suppose you have the mental capacity to perform that function.

Winston Churchill too served in Afghanistan, and so did Rudyard Kipling, a famous British poet and writer who has written quite a few about the Anglo-Afghan wars, yet neither mentioned anything of this "golden shower" being a practice among the Pashtuns from what i have read about them. I'm actually reading it for the first time that such a thing would be practiced by Pashtuns. It truly is puzzling that Pashtun men who won't even allow their women to be seen or filmed would somehow allow them to undress and urinate on the faces of men and those too non-Muslims.

 

[Kabira]

Luffy saab, you also agree with British calling Pashtuns Martial race, while at the same time denying this account which probably is not true. Why not reject British accounts altogether, instead of being partial and picking and choosing?

Luffy is like that, he now like Iqbal because he said few good words about Afghanis being perfect fit for democratic institutions.

 

[ghoul]

So Afridis have become "afghanistan's scum" for you. How convenient. You indics/desis are very makaar and snake-like, you would insult pakistani pakhtuns and when questioned you would say i was insulting afghanis. A member here said that babur raped a yousafzai girl of swat. When asked why insulting his own countrymen, he said he was insulting "afghani scum", he love his pak pathan brothers and sisters.
Now british soldiers were hunted down by afridi tribesmen, there were lot of myth and fiction created by british about them. Some british authors praised them. Some hated them for being unruly. And some lonely british soldiers passed their time by imagining perverted acts with beautiful afridi women in pardah. You love to circulate such stuff about your afridi countrymen, have you verified it from afridis?

Why are you cursing the Punjabis for getting butthurt by some British accounts or by some individual user? And by "that user" who told you Bibi Mubarika's qisa, I take you meant me. Let me tell you one thing, I made this account(previously haj9211) just to answer the shit that you wrote without any response. You constantly espoused lies, and wrote shit against Punjabi muslims, called us biddati and what not. Also share here why I mentioned Bibi Mubarika. You were writing shit against how Mughals saved us "rajay majay" from Khushal Khan Khattak and Yusufzais. I cited the same Mughals, who forcibly married Bibi Mubarika, yet appreciated the bravery of Rajay Majay in Pharwala under Sultan Hathi Gakhar.

You were constantly indirectly trying to prove how Punjabi muslims were cowards, and relied on a poor understanding of history to prove your point. You were constantly bullshitting about how only Punjabi Pathans had the courage to resist Sikhs under Ranjit Singh, when Kasuri Pathans were anti-Punjab who denied the funeral of Bhulle Shah, and the Mankera Nawab was a known coward who handed over the anti-Sikh Tiwana chief, who was seeking asylum in Mankera, to the Sikhs. The Tiwana then made a peace deal with the Sikhs, and assisted the Sikhs against the treacherous Mankera Nawab. The Mankera Nawab could only resist for 21 days in his fotress before he ran for his life, yet the Janjua(rajay-majay) of salt range in Kusak fort resisted Ranjit Singh himself for 6 months, who failed to capture the fort by assault and turned to diplomacy. The Chattha Jatts of Gujranwala came an inch close to actually murdering an adolescent Ranjit Singh himself, yet you were always propagating how Punjabi muslims were cowards, boot lickers and what not.

And then you try to involve the known patriotic pakhtun users here. It's like you have an agenda here to make Punjabis and Pakhtuns fight. Yep they are our countrymen, but it doesn't mean you can write shit about us all you want and get away with us staying silent. And it's not like we're resorting to name calling or something. We shared historical sources to get you out of your fallacies of superiority.

And as for us Indics being treacherous and what not. For one, you live in an Indic dominated region of Pakistan. Abbottabad is an Indic city. Awans, Karlals, Tanoli, Dhund, Bhambas of Boi are all Indics, who are the quintessential Abbottabadis. The Hindko Pathans are mixed with Indics anyway. If we were so bad, perhaps you people would stay in your own hometowns right? Like, for one, why don't you move to Lakki Marwat instead of enjoying the hard work of indics? Somehow, I doubt you're even from Lakki Marwat. I feel like you're an Afghan claiming a false persona here. I even saw you write Darri here lol. Cut the crap and accept your real identity. There are no Marwats in Afghanistan as far as I know.

Only one account, of john masters , an 18 year old soldier stationed at peshawer.
The Curious Practice of Execution By Golden Shower

Actually, Rudyard Kipling also mentioned the same practice. So next time when you mention that "for centuries Hindus of India feared venom of the Cobra and revenge of the Afghans" quote, then know who you're citing

 

[Kabira]

Why are you cursing the Punjabis for getting butthurt by some British accounts or by some individual user? And by "that user" who told you Bibi Mubarika's qisa, I take you meant me. Let me tell you one thing, I made this account(previously haj9211) just to answer the shit that you wrote without any response. You constantly espoused lies, and wrote shit against Punjabi muslims, called us biddati and what not. Also share here why I mentioned Bibi Mubarika. You were writing shit against how Mughals saved us "rajay majay" from Khushal Khan Khattak and Yusufzais. I cited the same Mughals, who forcibly married Bibi Mubarika, yet appreciated the bravery of Rajay Majay in Pharwala under Sultan Hathi Gakhar.

You were constantly indirectly trying to prove how Punjabi muslims were cowards, and relied on a poor understanding of history to prove your point. You were constantly bullshitting about how only Punjabi Pathans had the courage to resist Sikhs under Ranjit Singh, when Kasuri Pathans were anti-Punjab who denied the funeral of Bhulle Shah, and the Mankera Nawab was a known coward who handed over the anti-Sikh Tiwana chief, who was seeking asylum in Mankera, to the Sikhs. The Tiwana then made a peace deal with the Sikhs, and assisted the Sikhs against the treacherous Mankera Nawab. The Mankera Nawab could only resist for 21 days in his fotress before he ran for his life, yet the Janjua(rajay-majay) of salt range in Kusak fort resisted Ranjit Singh himself for 6 months, who failed to capture the fort by assault and turned to diplomacy. The Chattha Jatts of Gujranwala came an inch close to actually murdering an adolescent Ranjit Singh himself, yet you were always propagating how Punjabi muslims were cowards, boot lickers and what not.

And then you try to involve the known patriotic pakhtun users here. It's like you have an agenda here to make Punjabis and Pakhtuns fight. Yep they are our countrymen, but it doesn't mean you can write shit about us all you want and get away with us staying silent. And it's not like we're resorting to name calling or something. We shared historical sources to get you out of your fallacies of superiority.

And as for us Indics being treacherous and what not. For one, you live in an Indic dominated region of Pakistan. Abbottabad is an Indic city. Awans, Karlals, Tanoli, Dhund, Bhambas of Boi are all Indics, who are the quintessential Abbottabadis. The Hindko Pathans are mixed with Indics anyway. If we were so bad, perhaps you people would stay in your own hometowns right? Like, for one, why don't you move to Lakki Marwat instead of enjoying the hard work of indics? Somehow, I doubt you're even from Lakki Marwat. I feel like you're an Afghan claiming a false persona here. I even saw you write Darri here lol. Cut the crap and accept your real identity. There are no Marwats in Afghanistan as far as I know.



Actually, Rudyard Kipling also mentioned the same practice. So next time when you mention that "for centuries Hindus of India feared venom of the Cobra and revenge of the Afghans" quote, then know who you're citing

I don't know if its him, but i remember reading in other forum that they should treat hindko/punjabis well because otherwise Hazara region may not become part of greater Afghanistan i mean chances of any group of people joining Afghanistan is non-existant but expecting hindko to join their beloved country is hilarious.

 

[ghoul]

I don't know if its him, but i remember reading in other forum that they should treat hindko/punjabis well because otherwise Hazara region may not become part of greater Afghanistan i mean chances of any group of people joining Afghanistan is non-existant but expecting hindko to join their beloved country is hilarious.

Soon they'll be demanding Rawalpindi-Islamabad too. A 20% Pakhtun popuation is enough too demand the place be included in Loy Afghanistan, hence they want even Attock to be in Afghanistan lol. I read some even demanding Gwadar lol, as they "needed a sea port". If wishes were horses, Afghanistan would be a super power instead of what it is right now. And lol at Hindkowans being a part of them. Some Hindko friends that I personally know are not too fond of Pakistani Pakhtuns even, let alone Afghans.

These Afghani people have fitna in their blood. Their rocky country has made them chaotic, vile and sadistic to the core. They always seek war and confrontation. But I bet all these political Afghans are the ones living outside their own country and have never directly experienced war, which they wish on everyone else.

 

[Hyperion]

Because he himself is on the payroll of ANA!

what are you going on about now maran....and why are you bringing my name into this?

and who said I hate Afghans? I only hate individuals/certain vested elements across the Durand Line who want to divide my country at the behest of their masters who want to see an Islamic Republic (a proud, nuclear armed one) divided.

if you want to talk hatred, why you dont talk about the ANA and NDS which has been killing, persecuting and humiliating Pashtuns of Afghanistan? They are the reason why the Afghan Taleban/former Islamic Emirate admin. has become powerful there

 

[Kabira]

I dont know why pak pashtuns are so "tolerant", no real pashtun would tolerate bakwas against women of ghairati afridiyan. @Abu Zolfiqar is a lahori, not pashtun, i have seen his pictures. Typical lahori burger boy.
If this beghairat islambadi dare to say such stuff to a typical afridi, he would be lucky if his bones are not broken after that.

Any exemple of typical/real pashtun? post picture.

 

[Multani]

Why are you cursing the Punjabis for getting butthurt by some British accounts or by some individual user? And by "that user" who told you Bibi Mubarika's qisa, I take you meant me. Let me tell you one thing, I made this account(previously haj9211) just to answer the shit that you wrote without any response. You constantly espoused lies, and wrote shit against Punjabi muslims, called us biddati and what not. Also share here why I mentioned Bibi Mubarika. You were writing shit against how Mughals saved us "rajay majay" from Khushal Khan Khattak and Yusufzais. I cited the same Mughals, who forcibly married Bibi Mubarika, yet appreciated the bravery of Rajay Majay in Pharwala under Sultan Hathi Gakhar.

You were constantly indirectly trying to prove how Punjabi muslims were cowards, and relied on a poor understanding of history to prove your point. You were constantly bullshitting about how only Punjabi Pathans had the courage to resist Sikhs under Ranjit Singh, when Kasuri Pathans were anti-Punjab who denied the funeral of Bhulle Shah, and the Mankera Nawab was a known coward who handed over the anti-Sikh Tiwana chief, who was seeking asylum in Mankera, to the Sikhs. The Tiwana then made a peace deal with the Sikhs, and assisted the Sikhs against the treacherous Mankera Nawab. The Mankera Nawab could only resist for 21 days in his fotress before he ran for his life, yet the Janjua(rajay-majay) of salt range in Kusak fort resisted Ranjit Singh himself for 6 months, who failed to capture the fort by assault and turned to diplomacy. The Chattha Jatts of Gujranwala came an inch close to actually murdering an adolescent Ranjit Singh himself, yet you were always propagating how Punjabi muslims were cowards, boot lickers and what not.

And then you try to involve the known patriotic pakhtun users here. It's like you have an agenda here to make Punjabis and Pakhtuns fight. Yep they are our countrymen, but it doesn't mean you can write shit about us all you want and get away with us staying silent. And it's not like we're resorting to name calling or something. We shared historical sources to get you out of your fallacies of superiority.

And as for us Indics being treacherous and what not. For one, you live in an Indic dominated region of Pakistan. Abbottabad is an Indic city. Awans, Karlals, Tanoli, Dhund, Bhambas of Boi are all Indics, who are the quintessential Abbottabadis. The Hindko Pathans are mixed with Indics anyway. If we were so bad, perhaps you people would stay in your own hometowns right? Like, for one, why don't you move to Lakki Marwat instead of enjoying the hard work of indics? Somehow, I doubt you're even from Lakki Marwat. I feel like you're an Afghan claiming a false persona here. I even saw you write Darri here lol. Cut the crap and accept your real identity. There are no Marwats in Afghanistan as far as I know.



Actually, Rudyard Kipling also mentioned the same practice. So next time when you mention that "for centuries Hindus of India feared venom of the Cobra and revenge of the Afghans" quote, then know who you're citing

are you the raja with previous ID haj something?

 

[ghoul]

are you the raja with previous ID haj something?

Yeah.

 

[Multani]

These Afghani people have fitna in their blood. Their rocky country has made them chaotic, vile and sadistic to the core. They always seek war and confrontation. But I bet all these political Afghans are the ones living outside their own country and have never directly experienced war, which they wish on everyone else.

japan is a rocky country (70%)

are they vile, chaotic, sadistic?

other examples, China, Turkey, Switzerland, Korea, South Africa, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Yemen, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran etc.

Yeah.

potohar is also rocky country. Is it vile, chaotic, sadistic?

 

[ghoul]

japan is a rocky country (70%)

are they vile, chaotic, sadistic?

other examples, China, Turkey, Switzerland, Korea, South Africa, Ethiopia, Eritrea, Yemen, Lebanon, Jordan, Iran etc.



potohar is also rocky country. Is it vile, chaotic, sadistic?

Potohar has fertile barani valleys all over along with hills and mountains. Japan has terrace farming and an advanced civilization and literature. Afghanistan is the rockiest country in the world. Only 11% area is cultivable according to CIA factbook, hence explain their contempt for "Daal Khors". And not all Afghans are vile. It's mostly the expats who are. Their forums are as hateful as stormfront.org.

 

[Multani]

Potohar has fertile barani valleys all over along with hills and mountains. Japan has terrace farming and an advanced civilization and literature. Afghanistan is the rockiest country in the world. Only 11% area is cultivable according to CIA factbook, hence explain their contempt for "Daal Khors". And not all Afghans are vile. It's mostly the expats who are. Their forums are as hateful as stormfront.org.

Afghanistan has fertile barai valleys all over along with hills and mountains.

Afghanistan also has terrace farming and an advanced civilization and literature deep rooted in Islamic history with cities as Balkh, Termez, Samangan, Herat, Ghor, Kandahar etc.


Please prove that Afghanistan is rockiest country in the world

In Japan, only 12.5% of the area is cultivable.

Afghanistan on the other hand is not even close to Pakistan in development. It has vast resources to be rendered for cultvation, and this 11%, will increase.

 

[ghoul]

Afghanistan has fertile barai valleys all over along with hills and mountains.

Afghanistan also has terrace farming and an advanced civilization and literature deep rooted in Islamic history with cities as Balkh, Termez, Samangan, Herat, Ghor, Kandahar etc.


Please prove that Afghanistan is rockiest country in the world

In Japan, only 12.5% of the area is cultivable.

Afghanistan on the other hand is not even close to Pakistan in development. It has vast resources to be rendered for cultvation, and this 11%, will increase.

Do you even know what Barani valley means?

Never heard of Kandahar in Islamic literature ever. Balkh is famous for Maulana Rumi, who was a "biddati". Do you know that "nachna painda ae" of sufis was first done by Rumi? The other cities that you mentioned are all Tajik and Uzbek cities. Tajiks and Uzbeks are actually better people than these internet Pashtuns. And even these cities won't exactly qualify as "civilized". Even uzbeks and Tajiks were nomads till recently.

Don't compare Japan to Afghanistan lol. Japan never had a mercenary and raider based economy with frequent foreing invasions.

As for Potohar, it is right next to Taxila which was a historical centre of learning. Sanskrit speaking Pandavas with an advanced literature settled in Potohar. When Al-Beruni came to Nandana in Jhelum, he spoke of educated and learnt Brahmins living there. Before Beruni, it was under Hindhu Shahis, who were civilized. Potohar had places like Katas Raj temples, architecture like Nandana and Amb temples. Potohari people had advanced fortress building skills. Potohar/AJK region is one of the most fortified regions in sub-continent. An estimated >300 fortresses existed there at one point.

 

[Multani]

Do you even know what Barani valley means?

Never heard of Kandahar in Islamic literature ever. Balkh is famous for Maulana Rumi, who was a "biddati". Do you know that "nachna painda ae" of sufis was first done by Rumi? The other cities that you mentioned are all Tajik and Uzbek cities. Tajiks and Uzbeks are actually better people than these internet Pashtuns. And even these cities won't exactly qualify as "civilized". Even uzbeks and Tajiks were nomads till recently.

Don't compare Japan to Afghanistan lol. Japan never had a mercenary and raider based economy with frequent foreing invasions.

As for Potohar, it is right next to Taxila which was a historical centre of learning. Sanskrit speaking Pandavas with an advanced literature settled in Potohar. When Al-Beruni came to Nandana in Jhelum, he spoke of educated and learnt Brahmins living there. Before Beruni, it was under Hindhu Shahis, who were civilized. Potohar had places like Katas Raj temples, architecture like Nandana and Amb temples. Potohari people had advanced fortress building skills. Potohar/AJK region is one of the most fortified regions in sub-continent. An estimated >300 fortresses existed there at one point.

Oh please stop your insults and lies against Afghanistan. Imam Termezi was from Termez in Afghanistan. Do you know about Termez. Read what beruni said about it. And Afghanistan has more than 3 dozen well known famous Islamic historical cities.

you never hearing about Kandahar in Islamic literature means you arent really acquainted with Islamic literature. pandava bandars stayed in the hills. That was their refuge for being war mongerers. Yes, i know about hindu potohar. All you mention are hindu and sikh and orientalist stories of potohar, not Muslim. You talk like an indian.

Afghanistan has Ghazni too. The whole of your miniscule potohar will melt in front of Ghazni!

I dont blame you. Because you even made condescending remarks against Jalalpur Sharif.

 

[Mav3rick]

Haram

completely haram

During Roza or even afterwards ???