Female warriors of Lurestan, Iran

[Indischer]

On the history of Pashtun women I have a very interesting contribution to make:

An officer of the Imperial British army, recorded in his autobiography that Afghan women in the North-West Frontier Province of British India used an execution method involving urine.

Pathan women urinated into the open mouths of British soldiers who were fastened with restraints to the ground and their mouths held open with a stick.

Bugles and a Tiger (Autobiography) - John Masters:

Kyber, British India's North West Frontier: The Story of an Imperial Migraine - Charles Miller:

John Masters: A Regimented Life - John Masters:

The Savage Frontier: A History of the Anglo-Afghan Wars - Donald-Sydney Richards:

Dayyum! What a strange custom!

 

[Chak Bamu]

@Jungibaaz @Manticore @Chak Bamu @Emmie take notice of this vulgarity.
The content he posted is about a claim made by 18 year old british soldier john masters who claimed that Afridi women of khyber pull down their shalwar and urinate into mouths of captured british soldiers. This thread is about lur women of iran, why he is posting such content here?
Note that Afridi tribe is one of the most studied and researched people by british, various books are available about their customs and culture, yet no mention of rubbish which flyingprintzel is propagating. 18 year old john masters fantasized this stuff in his male only fauji qaurters.

Yeah sounds like fiction. Some people thrive on controversy unfortunately.

 

[dil_dil]

@Jungibaaz @Manticore @Chak Bamu @Emmie take notice of this vulgarity.
The content he posted is about a claim made by 18 year old british soldier john masters who claimed that Afridi women of khyber pull down their shalwar and urinate into mouths of captured british soldiers. This thread is about lur women of iran, why he is posting such content here?
Note that Afridi tribe is one of the most studied and researched people by british, various books are available about their customs and culture, yet no mention of rubbish which flyingprintzel is propagating. 18 year old john masters fantasized this stuff in his male only fauji qaurters.

Yes that was indeed vulgar and nothing to do with this thread.

 

[dil_dil]

"Luffy" never uses word "martial race", dont spread lies. Martial race is british word and is popular in indics, not pashtuns. Races are not martial....culture , enviroment and circumstances make you warrior. Physique and height doesnt matter, you need guts.
Pashtuns are warriors for thousands of years, did they need certificate of martial race from british?. Unlike punjabi musalman, sikhs and gurkhas, very small number of pashtuns were recruited by british. The total number of pathan soldiers in WW1 was six thousands while in WW2 the number was 18 thousands only. British were particularly fascinated by fighting skills of Afridis, they tried their best to recruit them in large number but due to high desertion rates and their reluctance to fight against their own people, they were excluded from enlistment in regular army and they were only recruited in khyber rifles. Pathans were rather troublesome enemy to british till the end, than useful servants.
Pathan sepoys were insignificant in british indian army. The most numerous in british indian army were punjabi musalman, and most favourite of british were gurkhas followed by sikhs).

Bohat jhuta insaan hai tu lol in pashtuns in Pak army thread your post

''Bodies of sindhis are generally very weak, they are not martial people.''

When confronted

''Guys i have read many books by british about south asian when they were rulers. British described sindhis as physically very weak compared to punjabis and pashtuns. Those in sindh who have good physique are usually the ones of baloch descent.
During british times, physique had great role in for selection in army therefore most of the soldiers were picked from former NWFP and Punjab.''

 

[dil_dil]

I posted that in 2010, four years have passed since. In these four years, i have gone through lot of reading material and with aging comes maturity. I am not stuck in 2010, my points of view have evolved through exchange of views and reading.
Gurkhas are best example to prove that height and physique doesnt matter in army. Back in 2010 i didnt know that what was the percentage of sindhis in army, i was fed the non-sense that 30-40% are pashtuns and rest are punjabis. ISPR release of 2007 revealed that punjabis are 71%, sindhis are 15%, pakhtuns are 13.4% and kashmir and GB are 9.11%. ISPR announced that they will change the demographics in the next 4 years but its not verified if it has happened.
According to new demographics sindhis (both rural and urban) would be 17% while pakhtuns would be 14.5%.
At that time i was under the impression that large number of pathans served in british indian army. It was not the case when i did some searching, pathans mostly served in scouts and rifles of tribal areas which constitute todays FC. The FC of that time was joke compared to todays FC.
Pashtuns are tribal warriors due to pashtunwali, they love soldiery but sucks at soldiery. They have discipline issues and are insubordinate by nature.
Sindhis culture is rather peaceful and sufiana so they are not warriors but like i said, you dont have to be a warior to be fit for army job. Sindhis, both rural and urban, have larger presence than pakhtuns.

Well i also use ''martial race'' theory for trolling purpose but ultimately it depends on bravery, high tech and unity. If one is lacking then expect to be beaten to death, 1200 ISIS soldiers vs high tech Iraqi army is proof of that.

This is how i will rate blind patriotism atm in different people of Pakistan.

Punjabis>pashtuns>Kashmir> basically these are at same level of being brainwashed succefully in to Pakistaniat. Then come Sindhis and in last Baloch who need futher brainwashing yet. Hopefully this process will be completed in couple of decades with Balochistan getting big chunk of investment and prosperity.

@Aeronaut sir when do you think this process will be completed?

 

[TheFlyingPretzel]

@Jungibaaz @Manticore @Chak Bamu @Emmie take notice of this vulgarity.
The content he posted is about a claim made by 18 year old british soldier john masters who claimed that Afridi women of khyber pull down their shalwar and urinate into mouths of captured british soldiers. This thread is about lur women of iran, why he is posting such content here?
Note that Afridi tribe is one of the most studied and researched people by british, various books are available about their customs and culture, yet no mention of rubbish which flyingprintzel is propagating. 18 year old john masters fantasized this stuff in his male only fauji qaurters.

Also note that ^^ this ^^ is Luffy signing in from a duplicate account. Although, if I must say, this account appears to be more aptly named than his other account. He, most probably, is a lord among the blood-sucking mosquitoes. A befitting decadent title for a wicked little man.

@Chak Bamu This Marwat Khan Lodhi guy is incorrigible .

In my defence, I would like to point out that the title of Post #1 reads "Lur Women with Rifle | History of Pashtuns".

Seeing as the title quite clearly alludes to Pashtun history I thought it expedient to introduce, to this thread, excerpts from John Masters' work, which I incidentally happened upon less than 3 weeks ago. I do not thrive on controversy but rather consider myself a bastion for refuting historical works which are at best fiction and at worst apocrypha. My intentions were not to cause offense but rather to shed light on work which I have never seen discussed or dilated upon here on pdf. My sincerest apologies to anybody, other than Luffy, who may have taken offence from my post. With Luffy my matter appears to have become personal. I'm surprised you guys can tolerate him.

 

[Spring Onion]

@TheFlyingPretzel the title of thread is "female warriors of lurestan, iran". The link that you are claiming as title of thread is for clicking to read full article on my blog which is named "history of pashtuns". @Spring Onion, @janbaaz mistakenly thought that i am claiming the legacy of others.
Bakhtiari-lurs are iranians, after nadir shah death, his various commanders contested for throne of persia. The most formidible persian general was karim khan zund and his toughest rival was a ghilzai general azad khan afghan who was ruler of azerbaijan. The wives of Karim khan zund's soldiers participated in wars against ghilzai afghans and for afghans it was unusual and unique, they mocked karim khan zund' soldiers, that they are hiding behind women skirts.
Why i posted it on my blog? Because it is relevant to azad khan afghan and his wars with karim khan zund.
You apologized, thats great thing to do so. I realize i could have given reply to your question without losing temper and i am sure you would have been convinced if i had given explaination nicely. May Allah forgive us. Ameen

Oh so you Marwat Khan Lodhi Monkey the luffy is back with this new name??

Hmmm

1. Who apologized and for what?
2. You presented it with title Great Pashtoon women warrior which is NOT The case at all. They were not pashtoons. The title of the blog is false indeed

3. As far as the bold part instead of mocking Karim Khan Zund, these Afghans should have been ashamed of themself that Lur women were giving them tough fight

Sorry for being blunt i will prefer a warrior woman over any "Pashtoon" tag.

 

[haman10]

trying hard to keep off this thread . karim khan zand was a great king and iranians love him .

lurs are not pashtoons and have nothing to them .

better if the thread is locked .

 

[Spring Onion]

trying hard to keep off this thread . karim khan zand was a great king and iranians love him .

lurs are not pashtoons and have nothing to them .

better if the thread is locked .

No need to lock. Let us just give some smiles to Monkey the Luffy

 

[haman10]

bakhtiari-lur people have nothing to do with pashtun race. From where you are getting the ideas?

dude , WTF are u talking abt ?

i'm a freaking half-kurd , and bakhtiari ppl are like my cousins or sth like that

dont lecture me on my own ppl . pashtun =/= lur .
in fact , they have nothing in common

dont make me laugh

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

Haram hai ye baghairat logo aub kahan gai ghairat ?? yehi i guess tribal log hamain kehta thai

 

[haman10]

and who told you that bakhtiari-lur people have any thing to do with pashtun race?.

U said that !!

am i having a comprehending episode or this dude is crazy ?

@Spring Onion

Haram hai ye baghairat logo aub kahan gai ghairat ?? yehi i guess tribal log hamain kehta thai

if u cursed my ppl , F U

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

U said that !!

am i having a comprehending episode or this dude is crazy ?

@Spring Onion


if u cursed my ppl , F U

u gay bro?

 

[Spring Onion]

You have concentration problems?. The title of thread is "Female warriors of lurestan, iran", not "great pashtun warrior women". Wear glasses and read the title of thread again.
@haman10 bakhtiari-lur people have nothing to do with pashtun race. From where you are getting the ideas?

bwahahahahahahahah you monkey you will remain a monkey always that was title of your blog what a waste of time you are . you have an identity crisis try to correct yourself and you will have peaceful mind

U said that !!

am i having a comprehending episode or this dude is crazy ?

@Spring Onion

His shit had hit his fan and now he is having a shit all over him so he is trying to wipe it out of his face.

NVM

 

[haman10]

Qoute my post where i said that lur people are pashtuns. Why i would say thing like that?

mate , iranians and pashtuns have a lot in common .

just wanted to make sure that there is no assertion like : pashtunes = lurs going around

cause its not true .

R U a pashtun ?

His shit had hit his fan and now he is having a shit all over him so he is trying to wipe it out of his face.

tough language for a lady

slow down sis