Fearless devotees perform dhamaal at Lal Shahbaz Qalandar

[Mansoon]

Nobody in Saudi Arabia says Wahabbi.

They just say Sunni muslims or Sunnah.

Yes Wahhabis are Sunnis or follower of Sunnah but their doctrine is from Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

 

[Rajput Warrior]

You are quite unaware.

No Muslim scholar would dare say an arab is superior to a non-arab.


Nobody in Saudi Arabia says Wahabbi.

They just say Sunni muslims or Sunnah.

Founding father of Wahabism and Salafism:
Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was of the opinion that Arabs ARE SUPERIOR (Afdal) than Non-Arabs and he claimed that this was the view that was held by the MAJORITY of the scholars – ‘Al-Jamhoor’- .

He wrote: “And the MAJORITY of scholars are of the opinion that the Arab species is better (Afdal) than the Non-Arab (species) just as the nation of Quraish is better (Afdal) than the Non-Qurai****e nations and (just as) the nation of Bani Haashim is better (Afdal) than the Non-Bani Haashim (nations).” Majm’u Al-Fataawa 19/29

Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) wrote:

“Verily, what Ahlul Sunnah is upon: Is the BELIEF (I’tiqaad) that the Arab race is better (Afdal) then the Non-Arab race. Whether (the Non-Arabs) are Hebrews, Aramaic, Romans, Persians and other than them…”. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/419


Shiekh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) said:

“Know that the Ahaadith (that show) the superiority of Quraish and then the superiority of Bani Haashim are numerous and this is not the place (to gather all of them) but they also prove this (superiority of the Arab over Non-Arabs).

And this is due to the fact that the relationship of Quraish to the Arabs is just like the relationship of the Arabs to the rest of the people (i.e. Qurai****es are superior to Non-Qurai****es and the Arabs are superior to Non-Arabs). Verily Allah the Most High has designated the Arabs and their language with ‘Ahkaam’ that are peculiar and unique.

And then He preferred Quraish over the rest of the Arabs in what He has given them of prophecy and other than that from the ‘Khasaais’ (unique and peculiar qualities)”. Iqtidaa As-Siraat-il-Mustaqeem 2/431


“…The superiority of the Arab race and then (the superiority of) Quraish and then (the superiority of) Bani Haashim, is not simply due to the fact the Prophet (peace be upon him) is from them – even though this is (a point) of superiority – but instead, they themselves are superior within themselves“. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/420

 

[Mansoon]

Nobody says wahabbi, there is no religious literature that says wahabbi.

They dont need to say it. Their actions speak it all.

 

[Mansoon]

Founding father of Wahabism and Salafism:
Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) was of the opinion that Arabs ARE SUPERIOR (Afdal) than Non-Arabs and he claimed that this was the view that was held by the MAJORITY of the scholars – ‘Al-Jamhoor’- .

He wrote: “And the MAJORITY of scholars are of the opinion that the Arab species is better (Afdal) than the Non-Arab (species) just as the nation of Quraish is better (Afdal) than the Non-Qurai****e nations and (just as) the nation of Bani Haashim is better (Afdal) than the Non-Bani Haashim (nations).” Majm’u Al-Fataawa 19/29

Sheikh-ul-Islam, Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) wrote:

“Verily, what Ahlul Sunnah is upon: Is the BELIEF (I’tiqaad) that the Arab race is better (Afdal) then the Non-Arab race. Whether (the Non-Arabs) are Hebrews, Aramaic, Romans, Persians and other than them…”. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/419


Shiekh-ul-Islam Ibn Taymiyyah (ra) said:

“Know that the Ahaadith (that show) the superiority of Quraish and then the superiority of Bani Haashim are numerous and this is not the place (to gather all of them) but they also prove this (superiority of the Arab over Non-Arabs).

And this is due to the fact that the relationship of Quraish to the Arabs is just like the relationship of the Arabs to the rest of the people (i.e. Qurai****es are superior to Non-Qurai****es and the Arabs are superior to Non-Arabs). Verily Allah the Most High has designated the Arabs and their language with ‘Ahkaam’ that are peculiar and unique.

And then He preferred Quraish over the rest of the Arabs in what He has given them of prophecy and other than that from the ‘Khasaais’ (unique and peculiar qualities)”. Iqtidaa As-Siraat-il-Mustaqeem 2/431


“…The superiority of the Arab race and then (the superiority of) Quraish and then (the superiority of) Bani Haashim, is not simply due to the fact the Prophet (peace be upon him) is from them – even though this is (a point) of superiority – but instead, they themselves are superior within themselves“. Iqtidaa As-Siraatil-Mustaqeem 2/420

They are all racist.

 

[cocomo]

Sufi shrines are haraam and stupid.
There is no logic in them

These stupid sufi shrines will go away with education, not with blowing them up.

Stupid terrorists.

This is the mentality we need to fight if we are ever to achieve peace. God will judge people not stupid molvis. Anyone who ridicules things that are sacred to any group should be punished. Talk about what is haram and halal among your own sect, don't ridicule people who don't share your sect.

 

[Rajput Warrior]

They are all racist.

Not a single Pakistani, minus newly converted wahabis thanks to petro dollar funded wahabi madrassas and maulvis dare desrespect Sufi Saints.

All Pakistanis irrespective of sects believe and revere Saints.

Such people influenced by wahabi and salafi nonsense living in ksa are ignorant.

I myself have wahabi relatives, truly pathetic. Even khatam,niaz are not tolerated by them.

In our village mosque, we had a new wahabi maulvi, after hearing his nonsense. People thrashed his butt and threw him out.

 

[Mutakalim]

Sufi shrines are haraam and stupid.
There is no logic in them

We are listening. Enlighten us with your knowledge and logic. You just claimed a thing without presenting any logic. Do you have any argument in favour of your claim?

there is no such thing as sufi shrines in Islam.

Proof?

I'm also against sufi shrines and darbar crap as well.

Your views has zero value.

I live in Saudi Arabia, and everybody calls themselves sunni muslims.

Worst thing happened to Islamic society is dictatorship.

Sufism is just an innovation.

Proof? You have just claims. Leave anything else just define "Innovation".

 

[MultaniGuy]

Yes Wahhabis are Sunnis or follower of Sunnah but their doctrine is from Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab

Nobody says wahabbi in saudi arabia.

Everybody just says sunni muslims.

 

[Mansoon]

Nobody says wahabbi in saudi arabia.

Everybody just says sunni muslims.

ٰIts because they are ignorant.

 

[MultaniGuy]

We are listening. Enlighten us with your knowledge and logic. You just claimed a thing without presenting any logic. Do you have any argument in favour of your claim?

Proof?

Your views has zero value.

Worst thing happened to Islamic society is dictatorship.

Proof? You have just claims. Leave anything else just define "Innovation".

Is there sufism in the Qur'an and the hadith?

Sufism is just biddah or innovation.

Show me where in the Qur'an is there promotion of sufism.

There is none.

Is there sufism in the Sunnah?

 

[Respect4Respect01]

This is the mentality we need to fight if we are ever to achieve peace. God will judge people not stupid molvis. Anyone who ridicules things that are sacred to any group should be punished. Talk about what is haram and halal among your own sect, don't ridicule people who don't share your sect.

stop misusing the word Molvi.

 

[Rajput Warrior]

Nobody says wahabbi in saudi arabia.

Everybody just says sunni muslims.

Wahabis in Pakistan also call themselves sunnis,yet their beliefs are different than us Sunnis.
Their way of offering namaz is also different, they also dont do niaz,khatam neither on funerals or otherwise and much more.

Many even shamelessly call yazid lanati a sahabi and much more.

 

[MultaniGuy]

ٰIts because they are ignorant.

No you are ignorant.

You haven't been to Saudi Arabia.

Who do you trust? Who are the authorities on religion? Which Mullah or Shaykh do you go for religious knowledge.

stop misusing the word Molvi.

Agreed with you.

There are good moulvis or mullahs as well. Why did he use a blanket statement?

 

[Mutakalim]

Is there sufism in the Qur'an and the hadith?

What is sufism? First we have to define sufism. Dhamal, Bhangra, Dhool, Charse podri Malangs, these all things have nothing to do with sufism.

Sufism is just biddah or innovation.

Show me where in the Qur'an is there promotion of sufism.

There is none.

Define sufism?

 

[MultaniGuy]

Wahabis in Pakistan also call themselves sunnis,yet their beliefs are different than us Sunnis.
Their way of offering namaz is also different, they also dont do niaz,khatam neither on funerals or otherwise and much more.

Many even shamelessly call yazid lanati a sahabi and much more.

Show me proof of sufism and shrine culture in the Qur'an and in the Sunnah.

There is no proof of sufism or shrine culture in the Qur'an and in the Sunnah.