FARN10: Eurofighter boasts Typhoon reign over F-35

[soaringphnx]

I think that the MiG-35, Su-30 MKK3 and Su-35 BM and the future Su-37s are more capable with cheaper price and with the promise of cheaper operating in future and the reliability on russian that they won't force an embargo on any buyers and also the technology that they are offering isn't cheap in the western market.

I agree, but remember that the MiG-35, Su-30 MKK3 and Su-35 BM are primarily air-superiority fighters with secondary ground attack abilities (although MiG-35 is admittedly more multi-role), whereas the F-35 is a light strike fighter with secondary air-to-air capabilities. Moreover, I thought the Su-37 was only a technology demonstrator.

 

[Reaper What You Sow]

The F-35 was designed to be a stealth bomb truck/work horse for the US and allied nations.

 

[Tshering22]

The F-35 was designed to be a stealth bomb truck/work horse for the US and allied nations.

Yeah but its secondary multirole capabilities are going to be a bane for LM. You see, a primary strike fighter will need a air superiority escort. I doubt F-35 could win a dogfight against Su-35BMs or MiG-35s for that matter because Russian and the users of Russian fighters have a strategy to draw enemy fighters into WVR combat. While current Russian fighters are not stealthy, their radars are becoming more and more capable to detect the stealth signature fighters as Pogosyan claimed about the Su-35 BMs. And WVR combat is specialty of Russian fighters. US has a solution in terms of F-22s and Silent Eagles and Israelis with their deadly flying skills but not the remaining nations.

This exposes F-35's weaknesses all the more. Already Netherlands and Australia are going crazy with apprehension of its capabilities.

 

[sancho]

Wasnt it earlier??

http://www.defence.pk/forums/military-forum/61427-eurofighter-snipes-lockheed-says-typhoon-more-5th-gen-than-f-35-latter-not-even-f.html

Yeah, the EF consortium looks kind of desperate these days, when even their own partner countries like Italy, or possibly UK cut the order and limit the further development, because they are also partners in F35.

The consortium might be even right with what they say, the problem is, till EF will be ready developed with all its high tech features, there will be F35 and even first Pak Fas operational and other 5. gen developments already on the run. It's a shame that they are so delayed and I guess especially the Germans regret that the French left the EF development. Because now they seems to be the only big partner who wants and needs the EF to be further developed.


Regarding F35, here is an interesting report about it and the cost and development problems: