" Faith Healer "

[Musafir117]

A fake peer has nothing to do with any Ashiq or liberal. The society has many examples and references w.r.t. such fake peers or liberals as well. No need to turn every subject into controversial debate as well as to generalize all with one.

This is a common practice in Pakistan and what my point was the " These are actual real issues which are neglecting by our clerics who have most influence on public anf public as well believes them"
This is a case come up on surface and there are hundreds like this not coz type of crime keep silent the victims to announce it or report it and the reasons are various.
I chose the title carefully and few lines you can delete as it's realy not necessary.

 

[Manama]

Faith needs no healing. Faith is healing.

So you are fundamentally wrong.

i am saying that most of the people or almost ALL of the people who claim to be "faith healers" are fraud, what part of that do you not get?

 

[The Eagle]

This is a common practice in Pakistan and what my point was the " These are actual real issues which are neglecting by our clerics who have most influence on public anf public as well believes them"
This is a case come up on surface and there are hundreds like this not coz type of crime keep silent the victims to announce it or report it and the reasons are various.
I chose the title carefully and few lines you can delete as it's realy not necessary.

This is called generalization. I did not follow any cleric in person or personally but I know that such fake peers are not Islam at all so in conclusion, the burden lies upon the people themselves as well to seek the truth and strive for it. We are so convenient and quick as well, to shift our burden whenever it comes to fulfill our responsibility as the subject. Those people did it per their choice and no cleric can shove the right thing down the throats like this. If these cases are not reported just because of the victim itself, doesn't warrant to taunt Ashiqs or anyone else.

Rest about choosing the title, reported by Dawn.... That is enough to prove it. Dawn is well aware that such is not practice of Islam at all nor the Sufism but the irony is, such people are only interested whatever suits their interest and that same should not be the standard for people like us.

 

[I.R.A]

Can any of these sufis or (dakosla rapist) healers help reduce foreign debt of Pakistan? I think we are not fully exploiting their talent, they should be given opportunity to prove themselves and their loyalty to Pakistan. I have heard sufis can do wonders and perform miracles .............. or least they could make JF-17 the nth wonder of world? Why not utilise their powers and let the world know we have sufis to defend us?

 

[El Sidd]

i am saying that most of the people or almost ALL of the people who claim to be "faith healers" are fraud, what part of that do you not get?

And I am saying Faith itself needs no healing. What part of that do you not want to understand?

 

[Manama]

And I am saying Faith itself needs no healing. What part of that do you not want to understand?

And neither this post nor my point is about "faith", its about the people claiming to be healers.

 

[Randiana2012]

I don't blame the culprit.

 

[Zibago]

This is a common practice in Pakistan and what my point was the " These are actual real issues which are neglecting by our clerics who have most influence on public anf public as well believes them"
This is a case come up on surface and there are hundreds like this not coz type of crime keep silent the victims to announce it or report it and the reasons are various.
I chose the title carefully and few lines you can delete as it's realy not necessary.

This is what happens when you ignore education and health sector

Problem is believing "real" faqeer exist just like fake ones. First we need to educate people to not trust in any faith healer.

Peer sahab ki karamaat par shak karney waloan ko gaon sey nikal diya jata hy

Jinka pindoan mein jana laga rehta hy unsey pocho inka kiya drama hota hy aur kitney jahil inkey pass choti choti batoan key liye jatey hain

 

[El Sidd]

This is what happens when you ignore education and health sector


Peer sahab ki karamaat par shak karney waloan ko gaon sey nikal diya jata hy

Jinka pindoan mein jana laga rehta hy unsey pocho inka kiya drama hota hy aur kitney jahil inkey pass choti choti batoan key liye jatey hain

5000 saal se ye hi chal raha hai Pindon me. ye log adat se majboor hain bus

 

[Zibago]

5000 saal se ye hi chal raha hai Pindon me. ye log adat se majboor hain bus

Adat badalni parey gi dandey kay zor par

 

[El Sidd]

Adat badalni parey gi dandey kay zor par

Danda nahi chaiye. inko rozgar ke mawaqay or taleem dedo baki time nahi bachega inke paas.

feudal system se bahir niklenge to kuch dikhega warna ya to panchaiyt me phanse hote hai ya baba dervishion me

 

[Jaanbaz]

If you have trust in God/Allah then why would you need a faith healer?

 

[Verve]

Such con artists / criminals will keep increasing in numbers ... What more shall we be expecting with rise in poverty!?

 

[mr.robot]

South Punjab is filled with such people. So, I know a bit more about them. They should be called ‘predators’ rather than ‘faith healers’. And these kind of predators exist everywhere in the world .

Posture of such predators on religion is to just gain some credibility for further exploitation. Once the victim somehow reaches them, they are very good at trapping. Actually, they keep an eye on victim’s personal/family issues, job problems, political views, social views and etc. They make a profile of the victim like L.E.As do. They will say exactly what the victim wants to listen. Gain the trust by listening to their issues, console her and pretend like they are the only well wisher of victim. For all the above reasons, women’s nature makes them the easiest prey.

 

[TheLahoriGuy]

you cannot fight extreme of one kind with an extreme of the other kind.

Sure you can. Hell thats the only way. Fight fire with fire.