Face Veil removal request in Western Countries

[Zibago]

Liberal Secularism will die a horrible death eventually, by the hands of it's very own torch bearers. Unfortunately many of us are oblivious to this. Alas.

Um not really even in US Trump actually lost the popular vote and Brexit failed in major cities of UK

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

The first thing these 'god' fearing muslims do is take the rights of the women away from them. Christians did the same centuries ago---but then things have changed.

First we want to control them with a religious edict---' islam does not allow it '---but we forget the edict about men when we gang rape them---.

We also forget the edict when tear up the clothes of the women of the opponents and make them walk naked in the streets and humiliate and degrade them---.

We beat them---we abuse them---on refusal of our advances---we burn their faces and body with acid---and maim them for life---and all this in the name of Islam.

We call them BIBI---what kind of B S is that---if they are adult---they are women---why do they address with the word BIBI---.

Because when they say the women's name---they are afraid that they would have to declare them their equal---.

They use the word BIBI---they use the term sister---and these terms reflect inequality---they want to be the protectors---.

It is very difficult to give away that position of power---.

 

[padamchen]

Hi,

The first thing these 'god' fearing muslims do is take the rights of the women away from them. Christians did the same centuries ago---but then things have changed.

First we want to control them with a religious edict---' islam does not allow it '---but we forget the edict about men when we gang rape them---.

We also forget the edict when tear up the clothes of the women of the opponents and make them walk naked in the streets and humiliate and degrade them---.

We beat them---we abuse them---on refusal of our advances---we burn their faces and body with acid---and maim them for life---and all this in the name of Islam.

We call them BIBI---what kind of B S is that---if they are adult---they are women---why do they address with the word BIBI---.

Because when they say the women's name---they are afraid that they would have to declare them their equal---.

They use the word BIBI---they use the term sister---and these terms reflect inequality---they want to be the protectors---.

It is very difficult to give away that position of power---.

This "sister" bs is the biggest piece of crap in India as well.

Everything under the sun happens under this nom de guerre ....

 

[Jf Thunder]

whatever it maybe, atleast it's a representation of a conservative point of view, which is far better than like minded people with the same views going YEAS AND NAYS all day long.

he also declares it "an order from ALLAH and his RASOOL (PBUH)" without any authentic references.

If people can take your comments out of context Sacred Scriptures are something else lol

taking things out of context has always been an extremely easy way to prove whatever point you think is right, no matter how wrong it may be.
And the good thing is (sarcasm please) our Scholars do just that to impose these types of things on us

Hi,

The first thing these 'god' fearing muslims do is take the rights of the women away from them. Christians did the same centuries ago---but then things have changed.

First we want to control them with a religious edict---' islam does not allow it '---but we forget the edict about men when we gang rape them---.

We also forget the edict when tear up the clothes of the women of the opponents and make them walk naked in the streets and humiliate and degrade them---.

We beat them---we abuse them---on refusal of our advances---we burn their faces and body with acid---and maim them for life---and all this in the name of Islam.

We call them BIBI---what kind of B S is that---if they are adult---they are women---why do they address with the word BIBI---.

Because when they say the women's name---they are afraid that they would have to declare them their equal---.

They use the word BIBI---they use the term sister---and these terms reflect inequality---they want to be the protectors---.

It is very difficult to give away that position of power---.

never thought about it that way.......
I always thought bibi and sister was for respect........

That's the inner beauty, I'm talking about Outer

you sir, have alot of tharak

 

[EgyptianAmerican]

Such a divisive topic...

Sometimes I think people bring it up purely out of spite.

 

[xairhossi]

I do get disturbed. I need to see a face to be able to communicate. A veil in europe ie simply provocation and makes people feel bad

are you from the apricity forum?

 

[Zibago]

We call them BIBI---what kind of B S is that---if they are adult---they are women---why do they address with the word BIBI---

If someone says first name women perceive that person as rude bibi is same as Madam its an honorary title for a woman

 

[Zarvan]

Well to be fair , a gear to cover the hair is sufficient.
It is unnecessary to cover all face

Again one is going to do some service , not necessarily a beauti pagent arranged by Trump that you have to wear a bikini to get a job or role

Hot folks still look hot even after hijab

Quite normal , and if some bastard comes to hit you (Western scholars or that bastard on street who tries to act tough by violence on street or bus or subway) , carry a AK-47 in your purse and shoot that bastard

Generally all muslims should spend some time to ensure their families know how to carry weapons for self defence


Recomend ladies to carry this lovely piece, spend some weekends on weapons firing center to train , sometimes changing times need some change in mindset

Completely legal for self defence

Cost is around may be $100-$200 bucks , and some licencing cost etc in your city and necessary background checks.

Seems like a proper thing to do where law allows such weapons

But please don't kill anyone who comes to you with a flower that would be quite cruel

It's not your personal choice it's what ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have ordered and they ordered face covering and women after arrival of order started doing it in life of RASOOL SAW and are doing till this date and will continue to do so till day of judgement.

 

[Zibago]

Guess i have to stay on your good side

I'm not their basic Ji Ji Ji girl.

I have mixed feelings on Burka ban not because of the ban itself but the intentions behind the ban

It's not your personal choice it's what ALLAH and his RASOOL SAW have ordered and they ordered face covering and women after arrival of order started doing it in life of RASOOL SAW and are doing till this date and will continue to do so till day of judgement.

We are all going to be judged for our own sins lets leave how Muslim one wants to be on the individual

 

[Zarvan]

Guess i have to stay on your good side

I have mixed feelings on Burka ban not because of the ban itself but the intentions behind the ban


We are all going to be judged for our own sins lets leave how Muslim one wants to be on the individual

We are going to be judged by many things including that whether we tried to stop evil and stop haram and spread Halal or not that is one of the main duties of Muslim. This individual thing doesn't work in Islam like the way you have assumed

 

[Zibago]

We are going to be judged by many things including that whether we tried to stop evil and stop haram and spread Halal or not that is one of the main duties of Muslim. This individual thing doesn't work in Islam like the way you have assumed

There is no compulsion in religion this is the duty of the individual if she doesnot follow it she will be answerable in akhirat not you
You can give advise but you cant force your opinion on others

On haram i think donkey meat and rotten meat in stores is a bigger issue than women not wearing hijabs

 

[Zarvan]

There is no compulsion in religion this is the duty of the individual if she doesnot follow it she will be answerable in akhirat not you
You can give advise but you cant force your opinion on others

On haram i think donkey meat and rotten meat in stores is a bigger issue than women not wearing hijabs

You mistook the ayat dude the ayat is referring to the fact that no one can be forced to convert to Islam and sorry but in Islamic it's duty of state and Muslims to spread Halal and stop Haram Quran and Hadith are filled with these orders. And for your information ALLAH has specifically mentioned his wrath falling on those even in this world who spread vulgarity in Muslim society.

 

[Zibago]

You mistook the ayat dude the ayat is referring to the fact that no one can be forced to convert to Islam and sorry but in Islamic it's duty of state and Muslims to spread Halal and stop Haram Quran and Hadith are filled with these orders. And for your information ALLAH has specifically mentioned his wrath falling on those even in this world who spread vulgarity in Muslim society.

First Islamic country should stop haram food we are eating filth and people are more concerned over hijabs Coming back to Hijab there are different interpretations on whether its compulsary or not whose interpretation are we going to listen to?
There is a reason why most Muslim countries dont have forced Hijab laws and i dont see that changing anytime soon

 

[Zarvan]

First Islamic country should stop haram food we are eating filth and people are more concerned over hijabs Coming back to Hijab there are different interpretations on whether its compulsary or not whose interpretation are we going to listen to?
There is a reason why most Muslim countries dont have forced Hijab laws and i dont see that changing anytime soon

There is no debate on Hijab only there is debate whether covering face is compulsory or not majority says it's compulsory others say not compulsory but preferred. And Hijab is of huge importance and also is food and better state implements it before people decides to do it on there own and soon Muslims will have laws which would make Hijab compulsory either current Goverments will do it or they will be thrown out for good.

 

[abdulbarijan]

Hi,
Americans don't claim that they are the chosen ones---americans don't claim to lay down their lives for Jesus---americans don't claim to kill anyone burning the bible---.

Those you are calling the worst are in majority---their worst is the worst of the worst---their perversity has no limits---.

They lie putting their hands on Qura'an---they lie standing on the dice in the mosque---they lie in the name of Allah---they lie in the name of Mohammad---they lie in the name of anything that is holy.

I wrote here a longtime ago---I had a collegue here in Cerritos california working with me at a car dealership---his name was SYED -----a very handsome man---talking about religion all the time---. One day he says to me " ---- Bhai is larki pay aaj Allah ka naam ley kur charh jaoon gaa ".

When I heard that my jaw hit the ground---" I said Syed---what did you just say---you have no shame---and he laughed "---says---kia baat kartey hein.

Stories I have many more---.

Your 200 million people have done nothing to stop this menace---when good people do nothing---that means they become a part of the crime---that means they are equally responsible for the actions---.

When your preachers stand on the mimbar and say to steal the money of the white people---do credit card fraud---do every deceit and deception and declare it a Jihad---what say of the citizens of that nation.

You own the nation---then take it back from the criminals. Neuter the sodomizers silently---catch them and snip them---nicely and quietly---catch the rapists---snip them quietly---take back your nation---it is slipping away at a very fast pace.

Hi,

Sir, who are you trying to kid? Go and read the poem on the statue of liberty and then talk about how you "don't claim to be the chosen one" ... or just revisit your reasoning for intervening in conflicts ... whats the pet sentence ... "we're going to bring freedom and democracy to xyz country" .. oh and don't start with the whole religion thing when president Bush, a guy you people put in office was the same one who claimed that "God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq" ...

-Again, your just typing stuff that comes to your mind based on your experience. Your judging 200 million people based on your experience of a few. I'm not surprised to see that you have no answers for FACTS, statistics that say that every 98 seconds a woman is sexually assaulted in YOUR country while every 8 minutes that victim just happens to be a kid. Smells like hypocrisy to me, which shouldn't really surprise anyone. I mean what is it now "Chemical weapons are bad" unless it's the US nuking Japan or dropping Napalm on children of Vietnam. Should I remind people about the acts of the priests of the Roman Catholic churches as well ? Genocide is bad unless it's you guys committing it against the red Indians ... Inequality is bad until it's the blacks on the receiving end, be it 300 years of slavery with lynching of black men or raping black women or police shootings of black kids in the modern day etc etc. Better not say something about Israel because it's 'anti Semitic', but when it came time to act you were the same ones that barred the jews fleeing from Nazi Germany to enter in to the US. The US loves to talk about the horrors of concentration camps, but you were the same ones that put Japanese Americans in internment camps. And as far as the story regarding your colleague, let's not forget that YOUR people just elected someone who said " I grab them by the pu$$y" .. He was the republican nominee, a party with the conservative/ religious people as their base... and btw how do YOU know that 200 million of us aren't doing anything to correct or better the conditions at play, just look at the mind set of the average pdf member and you can see where he or she stands on what you mentioned.

Like I said before, if you can stereotype my countrymen by the worst among us, do note that we can respond in kind, with interest.