F-35 myths and facts

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Are You kiiding me @undertakerwwefan
Its has massive intakes because it uses higher thrust interim engine al-41f1 but intake is in similar positions just as in Su-27 series of jets, wingspan/ wing area increases because it has a higher maximum take off weight than su-27 series of jets but wing design similar to su-27 series of jets @undertakerwwefan ​

Su-35 airframe same as Su-27 airframe. Su-57 airframe different.

 

[Ultima Thule]

There's not a single common design in the airframe between the two.

intakes in similar positions as in su-27 series of jets, horizontal tail surface/ main wings is similar to su-27 concept @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

intakes in similar positions as in su-27 series of jets, horizontal tail surface/ main wings is similar to su-27 concept @undertakerwwefan

yeah I mean Su-27 and Su-57 don't have lateral intakes, they have intakes below the fuselage

the wings are different shapes Su-57 has diamond shaped wings Su-27 has swept shaped wings

 

[Ultima Thule]

Su-35 airframe same as Su-27 airframe. Su-57 airframe different.

Modified su-27 with stealth, similar planform as Su-27 but modified for Stealth (flatter fuselage) and rest same as su-27 series of jets with the exception of nose cone/ V vertical tails and that all @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Modified su-27 with stealth, similar planform as Su-27 but modified for Stealth (flatter fuselage) and rest same as su-27 series of jets with the exception of nose cone/ V vertical tails and that all @undertakerwwefan

Yeah I mean Su-57 is modified from Su-27 they are both planes so yeah they both have 2 wings, 2 nozzles, 1 nose, 2 vertical stabilizers, 2 rear flaps. However the two airframes do not share a single common part that is the same in terms of shape and size.

 

[Ultima Thule]

yeah I mean Su-27 and Su-57 don't have lateral intakes, they have intakes below the fuselage

the wings are different shapes Su-57 has diamond shaped wings Su-27 has swept shaped wings

no Su-57 doesn't have a diamond wings swpet delta wing with horizontal tails @undertakerwwefan even f-22 dont have fully diamond shaped wings @undertakerwwefan

diamond wings should look this

@undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

no Su-57 doesn't have a diamond wings swpet delta wing with horizontal tails @undertakerwwefan even f-22 dont have fully diamond shaped wings @undertakerwwefan

diamond wings should look this

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@undertakerwwefan

Okey dokey mr expert. Fact is Su-57 and Su-27 do not share a single part.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Yeah I mean Su-57 is modified from Su-27 they are both planes so yeah they both have 2 wings, 2 nozzles, 1 nose, 2 vertical stabilizers, 2 rear flaps. However the two airframes do not share a single common part that is the same in terms of shape and size.

similar placement of intakes on both jets, wings are both jets are almost same only radomes and vetical tails are modified for stealth from stealth perspective it has only head on (front) stealth some how @undertakerwwefan from rear/sides it has minimal to no stealth capability @undertakerwwefan

Okey dokey mr expert. Fact is Su-57 and Su-27 do not share a single part.

Keep ranting without clue @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

similar placement of intakes on both jets, wings are both jets are almost same only radomes and vetical tails are modified for stealth from stealth perspective it has only head on (front) stealth some how @undertakerwwefan from rear/sides it has minimal to no stealth capability @undertakerwwefan


Keep ranting without clue @undertakerwwefan

Sigh. If you say so, mister expert. Call Su-57 Su-27M2 if you want. No one cares.

 

[Ultima Thule]

Sigh. If you say so, mister expert. Call Su-57 Su-27M2 if you want. No one cares.

i can show you lots of respected website like globalsecurity, Jane's, flight global, aviation weekly that saying that Su-57 is worst stealth design among all 5th gen jets, they rate J-20 more than this crap Named Su-57 @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

i can show you lots of respected website like globalsecurity, Jane's, flight global, aviation weekly that saying that Su-57 is worst stealth design among all 5th gen jets, they rate J-20 more than this crap Named Su-57 @undertakerwwefan

If you think Su-57 is crap, that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion.

All the 5th gen jets have their pros and cons. It's not possible to say this one is best, this one is worst. Su-57 has unique features. Such as 4 faced AESA, hybrid LERX and canards, 3D thrust vectoring. F-22 has nothing unique. J-20 has nothing unique. F-35 has nothing unique.

Even I do not judge which is best, which is worst. Jane's, global security have a lot of guts to judge which is best, which is worst.

Russia built the first space satellite, built the first space suit, sent the first man into space, did the first space walk, built the first space lander, built the first space rover, built the first space station, built the first modular space station.

In terms of innovations in aerospace, Russia is ahead of any other country.

 

[timmy_area51]

500 starts such threads every now and then , about science hahahaha who are you fooling ?

 

[Ultima Thule]

If you think Su-57 is crap, that's fine, you are entitled to your opinion.

All the 5th gen jets have their pros and cons. It's not possible to say this one is best, this one is worst. Su-57 has unique features. Such as 4 faced AESA, hybrid LERX and canards, 3D thrust vectoring. F-22 has nothing unique. J-20 has nothing unique. F-35 has nothing unique.

Even I do not judge which is best, which is worst. Jane's, global security have a lot of guts to judge which is best, which is worst.

Russia built the first space satellite, built the first space suit, sent the first man into space, did the first space walk, built the first space lander, built the first space rover, built the first space station, built the first modular space station.

In terms of innovations in aerospace, Russia is ahead of any other country.

Again you state a crap, if Su-57 4 faced AESA thean F-35, J-20 have 360 degree ETOS, do Su-57 have a ETOS like feature like J-20, F-35 have @undertakerwwefan than we don't know what the Classified Items in J-20, F-22 and in F-35 have @undertakerwwefan and What for RCS (radar cross sections) su-57 have worst RCS among all 5th gen jets which means Su-57 is will more expose to not only other 5th gen jets but even 4.5th gen jets equipped with powerful AESA like RAFALE, EF-2000, Grippen, J-10B/C, F-2 etc etc


and as for space tech those are different ballgame and don't directly related to fighter jet developments/manufacturing & R&D, infact space tech more relying to fighter jets developments and R&D than a fighter jets R&D relying on space tech @undertakerwwefan

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Again you state a crap, if Su-57 4 faced AESA thean F-35, J-20 have 360 degree ETOS, do Su-57 have a ETOS like feature like J-20, F-35 have @undertakerwwefan than we don't know what the Classified Items in J-20, F-22 and in F-35 have @undertakerwwefan and What for RCS (radar cross sections) su-57 have worst RCS among all 5th gen jets which means Su-57 is will more expose to not only other 5th gen jets but even 4.5th gen jets equipped with powerful AESA like RAFALE, EF-2000, Grippen, J-10B/C, F-2 etc etc


and as for space tech those are different ballgame and don't directly related to fighter jet developments/manufacturing & R&D, infact space tech more relying to fighter jets developments and R&D than a fighter jets R&D relying on space tech @undertakerwwefan

Su-57 has unique features. F-35 does not. F-22 does not. J-20 does not. J-20 basically copied F-35's DSI and EOTS.

Su-57 has 4 faced AESA and 3D thrust vectoring. These are not found on other jets.

and What for RCS (radar cross sections) su-57 have worst RCS among all 5th gen jets

All these jets are made of titanium and aluminium. Does Su-57 has bigger RCS than the other ones? Maybe maybe not. I don't have the means to know. No one does. Even if that is true, so what? Big countries don't fight each other. The only purpose 5th gen jets have is bomb truck against Qaeda fags.

and as for space tech those are different ballgame and don't directly related to fighter jet developments/manufacturing & R&D, infact space tech more relying to fighter jets developments and R&D than a fighter jets R&D relying on space tech @undertakerwwefan

It is tradition. Tradition is a powerful thing. It is inspiration and inspires Russian children to take up STEM considering their ancestors accomplished such great feats no one else was able to accomplish.

Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Again. And again. And again.

 

[Kamil_baku]

did you even read my message? i said 5th generation fighters cant use BVR missiles against each others.. as they will only find each others based on thermal signature when they are close to each other... That is the reason, every country develop their own 5th generation twin engine fighter as the maneuverability will be very important..