F-35 meets J-20 over South China Sea

[CAPRICORN-88]

The J-20 has a max ceiling of 66,000 ft while F-35 approx 50,000 ft plus.

IMO it is more of a case of the J-20 pilots breathing down the F-35 pilots.

Hope the USAF pilots don't twisted necks in the process looking upward and sideways in a panicky mood.

 

[Han Patriot]

The J-20 has a max ceiling of 66,000 ft while F-35 approx 50,000 ft plus.

IMO it is more of a case of the J-20 pilots breathing down the F-35 pilots.

Hope the USAF pilots don't twisted necks in the process looking upward and sideways in a panicky mood.

The Chinese managed to intercept F35, thats why that US general was saying the pilots were not bad. The reason they were using F35 was to remain silent and undetectable, but we managed to track it down

 

[CIA Mole]

The Chinese managed to intercept F35, thats why that US general was saying the pilots were not bad.

When will chinese navy do operations off florida coast

 

[Han Patriot]

When will chinese navy do operations off florida coast

When we get a base in Cuba I guess. And for it to fly so close to F35 meant it was as good as roast duck.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

The Chinese managed to intercept F35, thats why that US general was saying the pilots were not bad. The reason they were using F35 was to remain silent and undetectable, but we managed to track it down

As the Chinese Colonel once said in response to a boast by the US official.

"Then we will just have to meet in the sky to find out."

 

[gambit]

Hmmm let me get it right, flying near east China and they detected Chinese planes with KJ500 on the roll too. So you mean to say they detected the plane from okinawa and flew to Chinese Borders to intercept it. Lolololol, no wonder your knowledge of jet fighter is better than all Chinese here. Lol

I meant to say nothing. I do not know why you guys insists on interpreting the vaguest of text. I am waiting for an explanation of how China detected the F-35 based upon that article.

The J-20 has a max ceiling of 66,000 ft while F-35 approx 50,000 ft plus.

IMO it is more of a case of the J-20 pilots breathing down the F-35 pilots.

Hope the USAF pilots don't twisted necks in the process looking upward and sideways in a panicky mood.

So according to your extensive personal experience in military aviation, the J-20 usually flies at max ceiling all the time. I guess now we have 'Malaysian physics' along with 'Chinese physics'.

 

[LeGenD]

id assume its stealthier than a B2?

do radars go into the plane as well and reflect off of internal structure?

No jet fighter is comparable to B-2A in the aspects of stealth. Jet fighters are much smaller in size and do not have sufficient space to accomodate some stealthy applications and design parameters found in B-2A.

 

[Han Patriot]

I meant to say nothing. I do not know why you guys insists on interpreting the vaguest of text. I am waiting for an explanation of how China detected the F-35 based upon that article.


So according to your extensive personal experience in military aviation, the J-20 usually flies at max ceiling all the time. I guess now we have 'Malaysian physics' along with 'Chinese physics'.

It means you lack common sense coming out with a full load of bullshit analysis. East China is Chinese ADIZ, so the jets were scrambled from onshore bases once they detected F35, and the most shocking of all is they intercepted it, hence the word 'encounter'. That's why your General was eating the humble pie all of a sudden. Detected is one thing, tracking and able to intercept it is another thing.

 

[Princeps Senatus]

The J-20 has a max ceiling of 66,000 ft while F-35 approx 50,000 ft plus.

IMO it is more of a case of the J-20 pilots breathing down the F-35 pilots.

Hope the USAF pilots don't twisted necks in the process looking upward and sideways in a panicky mood.

You do realize that flying that high makes you easier to detect on radar and easier for BVR AAMs to reach you. You won't see a F-35 flying at 50,000 feet and you won't see a J-20 flying at 66,000 feet. Around 36,000 is the norm.

 

[gambit]

It means you lack common sense coming out with a full load of bullshit analysis. East China is Chinese ADIZ, so the jets were scrambled from onshore bases once they detected F35, and the most shocking of all is they intercepted it, hence the word 'encounter'. That's why your General was eating the humble pie all of a sudden. Detected is one thing, tracking and able to intercept it is another thing.

There is no evidence that the F-35 breached China's ADIZ, so you have nothing but a baseless assumption. There is no details on the 'encounter', but since most likely it was over water, so it could be sea based F-35 or land based F-35 that have been air refueled, but am willing to go with either Navy or Marines F-35. They detected something so they went to investigate and found the J-20. Just like how the F-22 shadowed Iranian F-4s, our F-35s shadowed the J-20 for a while. Do not need to be close. Just within visual will be enough. Something like about 40-50 km will do just fine. Then the F-35 proceed to take radar measurements of the J-20. Then we crept up close and scared him away.

 

[Han Patriot]

There is no evidence that the F-35 breached China's ADIZ, so you have nothing but a baseless assumption. There is no details on the 'encounter', but since most likely it was over water, so it could be sea based F-35 or land based F-35 that have been air refueled, but am willing to go with either Navy or Marines F-35. They detected something so they went to investigate and found the J-20. Just like how the F-22 shadowed Iranian F-4s, our F-35s shadowed the J-20 for a while. Do not need to be close. Just within visual will be enough. Something like about 40-50 km will do just fine. Then the F-35 proceed to take radar measurements of the J-20. Then we crept up close and scared him away.

Aww, don't get so triggered and start explaining to make your not look stupid. I think you need to learn some geography. Fine let's assume China flew to Okinawa and the US jets encountered China there. You happy? You need to understand Chinese air encounters only happen when we try to intercept US planes entering our ADIZ, if its far from it, nobody would fly so close and shore based J20s don't fly too far numb nuts.

 

[gambit]

Aww, don't get so triggered and start explaining to make your not look stupid. I think you need to learn some geography. Fine let's assume China flew to Okinawa and the US jets encountered China there. You happy? You need to understand Chinese air encounters only happen when we try to intercept US planes entering our ADIZ, if its far from it, nobody would fly so close and shore based J20s don't fly too far numb nuts.

I do not need to take lessons on how the PLAAF operate from someone who never served.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

You do realize that flying that high makes you easier to detect on radar and easier for BVR AAMs to reach you. You won't see a F-35 flying at 50,000 feet and you won't see a J-20 flying at 66,000 feet. Around 36,000 is the norm.

Really. Did the F-35 radar managed to detect those J-20 in the first place?
What makes the US general so impressed?

And what can these short range F-35 which is first detected by the high flying J-20 do?

You do realized that the J-20 can easily direct a couple of highly maneuverable J-10C to intercept and lock on these overly rated and expensive F-35 fighters.

Sorry. The sales pitch failed this time.

The customers are getting smarter and smarter.

 

[CAPRICORN-88]

J-20s' alleged close contact with F-35s over E.China Sea 'countermeasures against US activities

By
Liu Xuanzun
and Guo Yuandan
Published: Mar 17, 2022

A top US Air Force general said that US F-35 stealth fighter jets recently had a close contact with China's J-20 stealth fighter jets over the East China Sea, and the US forces are "impressed" by them.

If the incident is true, it is likely that the Chinese People's Liberation Army (PLA) Air Force sortied the J-20s to counter the possibly provocative activities by the US F-35s near China as part of routine maritime management and control missions, Chinese analysts said on Thursday.

"We recently had - I wouldn't call it an engagement - where we got relatively close to the J-20s along with our F-35s in the East China Sea, and we're relatively impressed with the command and control that was associated with the J-20," General Kenneth Wilsbach, Commander of the US Pacific Air Forces, said in an online discussion event on YouTube on Tuesday.

Noting that the Chinese pilots "are flying the J-20s pretty well," Wilsbach said that the US is still trying to figure out whether the J-20 is more like an F-35 that is capable of carrying out multiple types of missions, or more like an F-22 that is primarily an air superiority fighter that has an air-to-ground capability.

Wilsbach also said China's KJ-500 early warning aircraft could guide very-long-range air-to-air missiles carried by other aircraft to hit targets very far away.

While the PLA Air Force has not confirmed Wilsbach's remarks as of press time, Wang Li, a J-20 pilot at the Wang Hai Air Group affiliated with the PLA Eastern Theater Command Air Force, said on China Central Television on March 5 that he had participated in routine maritime management and control missions with the J-20, meaning that it is indeed possible that the J-20 could have appeared over the East China Sea.

The background of such incident is likely that the US Air Force was carrying out an attack simulation or other kinds of exercises targeting China, Hu Bo, director of the South China Sea Strategic Situation Probing Initiative (SCSPI), a Beijing-based think tank, told the Global Times on Thursday.

It seems that Wilsbach was praising the J-20's performance, but what he did was actually showing off US' capabilities in the East China Sea, Hu said.

The PLA, on the other hand, must have grasped the US activities, Hu said, noting that the contact by both sides' most advanced fighter jets indicates that the competition between them is growing even stronger.

Judging from the remarks by the US general and the Chinese pilot, it is likely that the US F-35s first entered China's East China Sea Air Defense Identification Zone and were picked up by PLA early warning systems, thanks to technologies like China's world-leading anti-stealth radars, a Chinese military expert told the Global Times on Thursday, requesting anonymity.

Upon detection, the PLA Air Force sortied the J-20s as part of their routine maritime management and control missions, the expert said, noting that since the US sent the stealth-capable F-35s, China needed to deploy aircraft with equivalent or better capabilities, which are the J-20s.

This serves as a countermeasure to US' possibly provocative activities, as the Chinese aircraft could monitor the US aircraft and ask them to leave if they come too close to Chinese territorial airspace, the expert said.

J-20s' alleged close contact with F-35s over E.China Sea 'countermeasures against US activities' - Global Times

www.globaltimes.cn

 

[Princeps Senatus]

Really. Did the F-35 radar managed to detect those J-20 in the first place?
What makes the US general so impressed?

And what can these short range F-35 which is first detected by the high flying J-20 do?

You do realized that the J-20 can easily direct a couple of highly maneuverable J-10C to intercept and lock on these overly rated and expensive F-35 fighters.

Sorry. The sales pitch failed this time.

The customers are getting smarter and smarter.

sell your propaganda elsewhere