F-22 / F-35 5th Generation jets | News & Discussions.

[gambit]

http://aviationweek.com/defense/f-3...m=email&elq2=ac0c5406f1fd4eeb9225a16614141243

According to the Royal Netherlands Air Force (RNLAF) and the Netherlands Aerospace Center (NLR), which monitored the results of the online questionnaire in real-time as the sorties were flown, people living near Leeuwarden found that the noise difference between the two types tended to be minor. Locals suggested that the F-35 is less noisy than the high-pitch whine produced by the F-16.

The NLR and the RNLAF say this data is backed up by noise measuring equipment located near the base which measured peaks of around 109 dB for the F-35 and around 112 dB for the F-16. The F-35s were flown clean—with no external weapons or tanks—in what the RNLAF describes as a “training configuration commonly used for the Netherlands.”

 

[Blue Marlin]

@500 any pics of the israeli f35? in finished colours

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

AIR FORCE PLAN FOR 2030 DOESN'T MENTION THE F-35

THE MOST EXPENSIVE FIGHTER JET IN HISTORY IS MISSING FROM THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BUYING 1,700 OF THEM

http://www.popsci.com/air-forces-plan-for-2030-doesnt-mention-f-35

Militaries change slowly, and technology moves fast. The “Air Superiority 2030 Flight Plan,” which the Air Force released today, is an attempt to identify the battlefields of the future, and see what the Air Force needs to put in motion today to do its job right in the future. Unspoken, but alluded to throughout the document, is a move away from expensive, long-in-development aircraft.
The Air Force can “no longer afford to develop weapon systems on the linear acquisition and development timelines using traditional approaches,” reads the report. It continues later: “the Air Force must reject thinking focused on “next generation” platforms. Such focus often creates a desire to push technology limits within the confines of a formal program.” Rather than have a few planes that they upgrade over time, the Air Force is trying to make the most future-y plane all at once, and it's often a disaster.
While not once mentioned by name in the study, these lines could both apply to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, a decades-long in development program shared with the Navy, the Marine Corps, and several allied nations. The F-35 is still in testing, with a fresh batch of software problems as recently as last week. The Air Force version of the F-35, the F-35A, is the cheapest of the three at just $108 million each. The Air Force still plans to buy over 1700 of the planes, and they’re expected to serve the Air Force as long as 50 years. If there is anything that defines the Air Force in 2030, it should be the ubiquity and inadequacy of the F-35. Instead of acknowledging that in the Air Superiority 2030 Flight Plan, the document dances around it.
Instead of an assessment of the F-35, and how the Air Force plans to build its force around it, we get allusions to other programs. The Air Force wants better aerial refueling in 2030, which is hard to see working in 2016 as their latest tanker hit delays because it can’t refuel planes. (Tankers are complex, sure, but the Air Force asks for lots of complex planes all the time. This one shouldn’t be hard to get right). The only airplane mentioned by name is the B-21, a new stealth bomber in development that appears to be as successful as it is secret, and we can’t really have a fair assessment of a program if all we’ve seen is a low-grade computer rendering of the design.
Nestled right at the bottom of this long list of desired abilities is “Low cost systems.” The section mentions 3D printing and autonomy, but it misses possible the most exciting part of the Air Force’s proposed cheap systems: attack drones that cost less to make than the missiles that are used to shoot them down. It’s a promising concept, and one that marks a solid break from long-in-development, expensive, next-generation aircraft.
If I had to guess what war in the sky will look like in 2030, I’d place my money on the small cheap deadly drones.

 

[500]

@500 any pics of the israeli f35? in finished colours

They are still being assembled.

Meanwhile Denmark elected F-35 over the Eurofighter Typhoon and F-18E Super Hornet:

http://www.fmn.dk/temaer/kampfly/Do...ks-new-fighter-aircrafts-english-summary5.pdf

The evaluation showed that 28 F-35 are more effective than 34 Eurofighters or 38 Super Hornets. Furthemore 1 F-35's 30 year cycle cost is cheaper than 1 Eurofighter's or 1 Super Hornet's.

 

[Blue Marlin]

They are still being assembled.

Meanwhile Denmark elected F-35 over the Eurofighter Typhoon and F-18E Super Hornet:

http://www.fmn.dk/temaer/kampfly/Do...ks-new-fighter-aircrafts-english-summary5.pdf

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The evaluation showed that 28 F-35 are more effective than 34 Eurofighters or 38 Super Hornets. Furthemore 1 F-35's 30 year cycle cost is cheaper than 1 Eurofighter's or 1 Super Hornet's.

yes i know boeing were not to happy with the choice and says they used bad data to work out which is cheaper

 

[C130]

AIR FORCE PLAN FOR 2030 DOESN'T MENTION THE F-35

THE MOST EXPENSIVE FIGHTER JET IN HISTORY IS MISSING FROM THE FUTURE, EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BUYING 1,700 OF THEM

http://www.popsci.com/air-forces-plan-for-2030-doesnt-mention-f-35

F-35 isn't the most expensive fighter jet in history unless you are referring to the whole program over it's lifetime.

$1.5 trillion over 50 years

which is a lot but not as bad the F-22 which so far has cost the U.S taxpayer over $400 billion for just 126 planes.

over 3,000 F-35 will be made that's a lot more bang for buck compared to the F-22,Typhoon,Rafale.

 

[Kuwaiti Girl]

F-35 isn't the most expensive fighter jet in history unless you are referring to the whole program over it's lifetime.

$1.5 trillion over 50 years

which is a lot but not as bad the F-22 which so far has cost the U.S taxparer over $400 billion for just 126 planes.

over 3,000 F-35 will be made that's a lot more bang for buck compared to the F-22,Typhoon,Rafale.

I didn't write the article, by the way.

 

[500]

F-35 in 2015 year review

 

[Natan]

Main reason why we are purchasing lrip10 is because of the maturing of the weapon systems. Our Turkish bombs and missiles will be used, nothing more. Lrip 10 then is by then block3.

So far first two F-35I will be of LRIP 8,
another 7 of LRIP 9,
another 10 of LRIP-10,
another 10 of LRIP 11,
and ther rest of them - of FRP.

 

[500]

F-35 participates in air show in Netherlands despite heavy rain:

Nice turns.

 

[Blue Marlin]

F-35 participates in air show in Netherlands despite heavy rain:

Nice turns.

indeed some very nice turns

 

[500]

 

[Blue Marlin]

this image has been clearly ps

this is my new fav pic of the f35 thanks 500

 

[Zabaniyah]

A worthy read about pilot physicians.
http://airman.dodlive.mil/2016/06/the-man-machine-interface/

 

[500]

First Israeli F-35 is rolled out few minutes ago: