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F-16s Dispatched to Pakistan (and $700 Million Dispatched to Lockheed Martin?)
Eight new Pakistani fighter jets could be only the vanguard to a larger sale.

Pakistan's Air Force is getting an upgrade -- courtesy ofLockheed Martin(NYSE:LMT).

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PAKISTANI F-16S. IMAGE SOURCE: LAWRENCE CRESPO FORU.S. AIR FORCE.

Few people realize it, but Pakistan currently boasts one of the most powerful air forces in the Middle East, including hundreds of Chinese F-7 fighter jets and French Mirages combined -- and nearly four dozen early model Lockheed F-16s (the most popular fighter jet on the planet). But as recently revealed in a notification to Congress by the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency (DSCA), the Pakistani air force is about to tip more heavily toward the F-16, thanks to an impending sale of eight new F-16 "Block 52" Falcons.

As revealed in the notification, Pakistan has asked Congress to approve the sale of two new F-16C fighters and six F-16Ds. Each aircraft will be powered byUnited Technologies'(NYSE:UTX)F100-PW-229 turbofan engine. Including the cost of a set of helmet-mounted cueing systems for the pilots, this portion of the sale comes to $564.7 million in value -- about $70.6 million per fighter jet.

The remaining 20% of the deal's value, according to DSCA, is made up of non-"Major Defense Equipment" not subject to the federal government's notification requirements. Comprising radar systems and defensive electronic warfare (EW) equipment for the planes, plus "spare and repair parts, support and test equipment, publications and technical documentation, personnel training and training equipment, U.S. Government and contractor engineering, technical and logistics support services," this portion of the sale comes to $134 million in value.

Who gets the loot?
Curiously, although Lockheed Martin is providing the planes that are both the core of this arms deal and also the most expensive equipment, Lockheed will not necessarily be named primary contractor. DSCA says, "Contractors have not been selected to support this proposed sale."

WithNorthrop Grumman(NYSE:NOC)building the radar,Harris Corporation(NYSE:HRS)the EW equipment, and United Technologies the engines, it seems it's at least possible the Pentagon will ultimately run the contract through one of these three -- and leave Lockheed Martin the role of subcontractor!

What it means to investors
Even if the Pentagon does choose a company other than Lockheed to handle the sale, however, this deal promises to be very good for Lockheed. The reason is contained in a single line buried within DSCA's notification, noting that "this sale will... support transition training for pilots new to the Block-52."

The implication of this statement seems to be that the sale of eight new-model F-16s to Pakistan may be only a prelude to a larger deal to upgrade Pakistan's 46 older F-16s with more advanced models. Given that such a sale could rise into the billion-dollar-plus range, we'll be watching developments here closely.
 
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@Windjammer @Quwa @Irfan Baloch its now seems confirmed that F-16's are making their way to Pakistan , so they are F-16's block 52 ? or more advance than our existing fleet of block 52's ? could be higher than 52, but less than 60's ?

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you can turn any blk of F-16 into the equivalent F-16 blk 60/61

take for instance the V upgrade

APG-80 AESA radar is on the F-16 blk 60/61 but for the V it would be APG-83 SABR..
which one is superior I have no idea

cockpit looks

F-16 blk 60 cockpit
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F-16V will have a updated cockpit which was offered to India in MMRCA
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how much superior this will be to the F-16 blk 52 or blk 60, I have no idea.


last big piece would be the most powerful engine for the F-16 the F110-GE-132

not sure if the F-16V will have that
 
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you can turn any blk of F-16 into the equivalent F-16 blk 60/61

take for instance the V upgrade

APG-80 AESA radar is on the F-16 blk 60/61 but for the V it would be APG-83 SABR..
which one is superior I have no idea

cockpit looks

F-16 blk 60 cockpit
aar.jpg


F-16V will have a updated cockpit which was offered to India in MMRCA
qlmdipmtazqs98n69odr.jpg

how much superior this will be to the F-16 blk 52 or blk 60, I have no idea.


last big piece would be the most powerful engine for the F-16 the F110-GE-132

not sure if the F-16V will have that

so block 15 or 40 can be upgraded to 52 or + standards right ??
42 Block 15's in our fleets can be upgraded to maximum standards or there are any Air frame limitations ?
like 52's have a extended spine ..

Never knew Pakistan was in middle East

i am been called Arab by many American i met on Social sites ... i am used to with it :D
 
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They are called the Motley Fools, they are a popular investment website in the US.

@Windjammer @Quwa @Irfan Baloch its now seems confirmed that F-16's are making their way to Pakistan , so they are F-16's block 52 ? or more advance than our existing fleet of block 52's ? could be higher than 52, but less than 60's

I would be careful what an investment site has to say about the matter. The order for the aircraft is confirmed but financials have not.
 
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so block 15 or 40 can be upgraded to 52 or + standards right ??
42 Block 15's in our fleets can be upgraded to maximum standards or there are any Air frame limitations ?
like 52's have a extended spine ..



i am been called Arab by many American i met on Social sites ... i am used to with it :D


not sure about the blk 15, but Taiwan is having it's blk 20s upgrading to the V standard

also not sure about the dorsal spine. the optional dorsal spine add more room for avionics and stuff. whether you can just add this dorsal spine to any F-16 or you can only add to new build F-16s I am not sure


but the F-16V doesn't need to optional dorsal spine so it really doesn't matter or effect the F-16 performance.
 
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I would be careful what an investment site has to say about the matter. The order for the aircraft is confirmed but financials have not.

some senior members like i tag above and INS janes have mentioned the coming F-16's will be more advance than our current block 52's , so there might be some changes or modifications we might see, or PAF can keep them secret if they want too ..
but lets ask the experts what' can make our current block 52's and transform them into more deadly war machines .. like radars , Pods , EW suites , Engine upgrade ? they know better.

not sure about the blk 15, but Taiwan is having it's blk 20s upgrading to the V standard

also not sure about the dorsal spine. the optional dorsal spine add more room for avionics and stuff. whether you can just add this dorsal spine to any F-16 or you can only add to new build F-16s I am not sure


but the F-16V doesn't need to optional dorsal spine so it really doesn't matter or effect the F-16 performance.

the dorsal Spine we can see clearly in F-16I block 60's that UAE operate , which are clearly the most advance F-16's , including the Israeli F-16I's .. but i agree V upgrade does not have ( seen ) spinal difference, so can we conclude that V up-gradation is merely based on AESA ? and some pods or EW that can also be put in old Air frames like block 15, 20 and 40's

as per these two links, Taiwan upgrade their 145 F-16 into V configuration into 1.85 B$ .. so if PAF wants to upgrade their 46 block 10/15 to V standards , it might not take more than 500mil$ . what do you think ?

F-16V (Viper) Fighting Falcon Multi-role Fighter - Airforce Technology
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/us/news/press-releases/2015/october/f-16v-takes-flight.html

@Khafee bro can you explain a bit about UAE F-16 dorsal spine and F-16V ?
 
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What a poorly written article. Hard to take such pieces seriously.

A- Pakistan in Middle-East. WTF.
B- Let's say Pakistan is in the middle east, most advanced airforce in the middle-east?lol Did the author forget about the Eurofighters and F-16 Block 60s and what not with other airforces?
C- F-7s and Mirage 3s make the airforce most advanced?lol
D- Glosses over the fact that we do operate block 52s ALREADY, makes it sound like this is the first time we are getting these.

I would expect the mods to shut down this crap thread.
 
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Keep watching the development closely as indeed it is good for knowledge but Pakistan is not in M.E. However, so much of only these 8 F-16s like not a day passes without a news about F-16s being stopped, 5th gen fighter (an India media lady reporter in a video clip), Pakistan will use against India and a resolution has been submitted in US congress to stop, Falcons are coming and what not... Give it some rest and care for own business after all these birds are not going to imbalance the power in region but two nations are dealing business being old friends and Pakistan as non NATO ally against WOT which is the base of this deal.
 
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Same thing happened with me personally. I was at Paris Airshow last year and met this nice American guy who had the similar skewed sense of geography :-).
No offence to anyone but most USA people dont know much geography!
 
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