F 16s are buzzing Lahore

[Basel]

Trump airstrikes ?

If that happens (God forbid) then JFT will be more important then F-16s.

 

[CriticalThought]

Oh, don't worry. I've been around long enough to know my way around. Once you get there yourself, you won't feel that everyone else is lost, just because you can't get your bearings. You have a long way, a very long way to go. Good luck on your journey, and good luck with encounters with your elders and betters on the way. You need it.

On the internet, you are only a handle until you introduce yourself in detail. And in this case, you are an utterly annoying handle who derails our threads. Now its only fair if the mods let you wreck havoc on our threads, then we can put you in your place as well.

 

[Basel]

All F-16's are under control/observation of US MP's ?

That would be strange considering it's widely believed only the newer 18 were under surveillance 24x7.

And what can JF-17 do against F-18 SH's backed with all EW's and AEWC's

New block-50/52 are at Jacobabad and under US observation, MLUed ones are also monitored.

Moreover, F-16 are bulit by US and they know how to handle their own tech, also US birds use IFF which see NATO and their allies as friends so no radar lock or weapons launch capabilities against them, and JFT is free from these problems it can lock and fire BVR on all NATO birds (other then 5th gen birds).

Our GCI, AWACS can handle initial thrust but will need help to face 1st wave.

 

[Arsalan 345]

May be radars spotted enemy formation near border.anyway they don't dare attack.this 80 plus jf-17 is bonus.they usually fly close to border.tensions are high on loc.this is just common practice.

 

[CriticalThought]

New block-50/52 are at Jacobabad and under US observation, MLUed ones are also monitored.

Moreover, F-16 are bulit by US and they know how to handle their own tech, also US birds use IFF which see NATO and their allies as friends so no radar lock or weapons launch capabilities against them, and JFT is free from these problems it can lock and fire BVR on all NATO birds (other then 5th gen birds).

Our GCI, AWACS can handle initial thrust but will need help to face 1st wave.

Didn't the Turkish MLU remove this restriction?

Regarding defending against waves of enemies, bring the topic up in the Pak Airforce thread. It will be an interesting discussion.

 

[Basel]

Didn't the Turkish MLU remove this restriction?

Regarding defending against waves of enemies, bring the topic up in the Pak Airforce thread. It will be an interesting discussion.

Did we get Turkish or other 3rd party IFF? Because Turkey wanted to install it's own IFF on their F-16s due to same reason.

 

[Arsalan 345]

We can easily defend 1st wave but I am not sure about India handling our 1st wave.raad alcm is a fantastic missile.i rate it much higher in our missile category.

 

[CriticalThought]

Did we get Turkish or other 3rd party IFF? Because Turkey wanted to install it's own IFF on their F-16s due to same reason.

I just read some Turkish poster here some time ago. He dropped the hint that their MLU would remove the restriction. Obviously, uncorroborated information.

 

[Arsalan 345]

I don't know about modifications on mlu but I want to know whether they can fire amraam or not? If they are not going to fire,we need more modifications on mlu.contact flankers!

 

[Basel]

I just read some Turkish poster here some time ago. He dropped the hint that their MLU would remove the restriction. Obviously, uncorroborated information.

US didn't allow Turkey to do that I doubt they would have allowed customization of their IFF.

@gambit @Bilal Khan (Quwa) can you share you views on above.

Isn't Jacobabad the same airbase Mushrraf leased out to the US ?

And a Pakistani army battalion was denied entry post 9/11 by US soldiers ?

The base is under Pakistani control but it is built on US guidelines and it is most advance air Base of PAF.

 

[CriticalThought]

I don't know about modifications on mlu but I want to know whether they can fire amraam or not? If they are not going to fire,we need more modifications on mlu.contact flankers!

Yes, our Vipers can certainly fire BVRs today. It's HMD/S + HOBS they are missing and we are working to get them in Thunder Block 3.

 

[Basel]

I don't know about modifications on mlu but I want to know whether they can fire amraam or not? If they are not going to fire,we need more modifications on mlu.contact flankers!

They can fire AMRAAMs but only against those who their IFF see as foe.

 

[lastone]

1965 was the best opportunity for pakistan to make military gains against india.
That they didnt , we can thank china for that.
Just imagine if china hadnt started 62 and with nehru still ignoring the armed forces ; compared to the US supplied arms under SEATO to pakistan ; we would have been sitting ducks.
Now its just a matter of attrition in non conventional warfare.
India will never give up kashmir and pakistan will eventually have to cone to terms with it.

 

[Hamza913]

Are these Pakistani f16 ?

No they're Hindustani. Lockheed gave you guys some super stealth prototype which daddy Trump approved for his best pal Modi.

On a more serious note, do you really think a Hindustani plane wouldn't get shot down if it went into such a pivotal area of Pakistani airspace? Or vice versa?

Ah, so!

When do you fight the war?

Hopefully never, nuclear weapons are not toys.

However, incursions are a real possibility we must be ready for.

Darn! I clean forgot. The one where you took over Kashmir with ten commando squads, ripped open the Indian defences at Chhamb, totally destroyed Indian armour and left them crying for their Mums at Asal Uttar, and fought off the whole Indian Army with a battalion of Baloch. The horsemen in white don't really count.

Congratulations, and may you win many, many such victories. And celebrate them buzzing your own cities.

Keep up the good work. To borrow a phrase from a formidable poster, kudos.

We may have not taken Kashmir, but we adequately defended ourselves despite being outnumbered. The ability to protect ourselves is all that really counts.

You mean the war Pakistan started and failed to achieve a single objective.
Hilarious.

Hindustan didn't achieve anything either, the war was a stalemate.

 

[Basel]

@Windjammer is there any Defence Day air show scheduled in Lahore? If yes then it's Ok, if not then it could be some exercise or some alert due to specific Intelligence report.