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F-16 sale: India’s protests will have no effect on Obama; Pakistan is too vital to US in afghanistan

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US issues ‘national interest’ certification for fighter jets sale

WASHINGTON: The US Defence Security Cooperation Agency has issued a certification saying that it’s in US national interest to sell eight F-16 fighter jets and related equipment to Pakistan.

The certification is needed to satisfy the US Congress where some key lawmakers are strongly opposing the sale. A national interest certification, however, is rarely challenged.

“This proposed sale contributes to US foreign policy objectives and national security goals by helping to improve the security of a strategic partner in South Asia,” says the certification sent to Congress with the sale notification.

“The proposed sale improves Pakistan’s capability to meet current and future security threats…and enhance(s) Pakistan’s ability to conduct counter-insurgency and counter-terrorism operations,” the agency informs the lawmakers.

It also clarifies that the proposed sale will not alter the basic military balance in the region (and) there will be no adverse impact on US defence readiness as a result of this.

The clarification rejects India’s claim that the proposed sale will alter military balance in South Asia and it also disregards objections raised during recent congressional debates that it will adversely affect US defence interests in Afghanistan where Washington still has thousands of troops.

According to the US Defence Security Cooperation Agency, the eight F-16 fighter jets and related equipment will cost Pakistan $699.04 million.

On Tuesday, Secretary of State John Kerry sent his department’s annual budget to Congress, proposing a financial assistance of $859.8m for Pakistan, which includes $265m for military hardware. This indicates that Pakistan will have to bear most of the costs for the F-16 deal.

On Friday, the US State Department informed Congress that it “has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to Pakistan for F-16 Block 52 Aircraft, equipment, training, and logistics support.

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Pakistan is desperate?? I think India is and India is not desperate, its hysterical! It just 8 jets. Just 8.
Theior argument is that it's not 8 jets it's slap of yanks on theior face what they been beating drums about Pak from pthankot to Afghanistan they forgot one thing they humiliate Yanks in MMRCA deal when they kicked theior jets out .indian thinks they r smart but keep forgetting Americans r superpower.

Jalney waley ka mongh kala .
 
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How do F-16s help fight TTP? I get the Mi-28s but fighter planes? wtf is wrong with PAK military?
Whom are they arming Paksitan against? India or Iran?

India obviously, what did you expect? Pakistan is doing what it needs to protect itself from a enemy that's been at war with it for decades.
 
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So the fire is still high.. even the day has been passed.... Not just these 8 but more will come and interestingly those will be in lieu of war against terrorism as well.... Afghanistan is the key here...... Pak-US are minimizing the communication gap that we had a few years back so bets are high and addition is always good when it comes without pocket money. After all just 8 birds and all hue and cry like doomed even having the one of the largest defence budget and inventory.
 
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So our grounded jets during Kargil was due to spares and non - conventional problems?
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No Sir, there is no butthurt here. In fact I am sure that this 8 F16 will force India to expedite Rafale deal or even make India increase the deal number.

No, pakistan is paying from their own pocket, yes you are right that it has to come from FMF but not fully then that also withdrawn from US.

So current status is that pakistan will pay full for these 8 f 16 blk 56+ but India is raising serious objection to the deal, still one month time is there for India to do something against this deal....

Now this bold part here is a prime example of BUTTHURT dear..lol ..:rofl: ..
 
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Guys, please, what is the time frame of delivery of these 8 jets? Anybody answer plz
 
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India obviously, what did you expect? Pakistan is doing what it needs to protect itself from a enemy that's been at war with it for decades.

Source: F-16 sale: India’s protests will have no effect on Obama; Pakistan is too vital to US in afghanistan | Page 6
Full scale war would lead to nuclear exchange especially given Pakistans TNW doctrine and first use policy.
2nd. Those F-16s won't even get of the ground if war starts.
What protection does it provide against India?
PAF will loose its airfields in the first 15 minutes of war. Those F-16s will be the first to get targeted by missiles.
Like those Falcrums BD has. What good are they against India when they won't even get to the sky?
Even if they do, you'll loose them quick.
Remember in desert storm, the Iraqis didn't even get half thier assets to the air.
 
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Full scale war would lead to nuclear exchange especially given Pakistans TNW doctrine and first use policy.
2nd. Those F-16s won't even get of the ground if war starts.
What protection does it provide against India?
PAF will loose its airfields in the first 15 minutes of war. Those F-16s will be the first to get targeted by missiles.
Like those Falcrums BD has. What good are they against India when they won't even get to the sky?
Even if they do, you'll loose them quick.
Remember in desert storm, the Iraqis didn't even get half thier assets to the air.

Sweetheart, I think the shock of this news has gotten to you. Seek professional help immediately.
 
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You think we will only be fielding these 8 F-16s in case of war with India? LOL you are naive. When push comes to shove everything is permitted. That is enough for you to know. After all, we fully know why the Americans are constantly throwing fits at our rapid strike capability in the form of Nasr batteries. It has you guys in an absolute twist.

As for backstabbing, we know how Indian suicide factories in Afghanistan churn out bombers under the noses of US/NATO only to kill innocent children and women in Pakistan. We do not need your silly lectures about the Haqqani network in Pakistan. First take care of your own backstabbing before shedding crocodile tears. We have lost tens of thousands of innocent martyrs. Let's not even make the comparison...

PS. How is that moron Trump going to make Mexico pay for the wall? Is he seriously going to ban Muslims from entering the US? LOL
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Nasr batteries!! Lol! :lol: Your rants are hilarious! :cheesy:
 
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Nasr batteries!! Lol! :lol: Your rants are hilarious! :cheesy:

Nasr will be having MiRV of 100 gms each. :azn:

Full scale war would lead to nuclear exchange especially given Pakistans TNW doctrine and first use policy.
2nd. Those F-16s won't even get of the ground if war starts.
What protection does it provide against India?
PAF will loose its airfields in the first 15 minutes of war. Those F-16s will be the first to get targeted by missiles.
Like those Falcrums BD has. What good are they against India when they won't even get to the sky?
Even if they do, you'll loose them quick.
Remember in desert storm, the Iraqis didn't even get half thier assets to the air.
It would seriously be who will call the first shot in the battle, if India calls in the First shots, it would be a hell difficult for PAF to be make assets airborne. But taking in account the hesitating attitude of GOI in decision making, it's highly unlikely that this will happen.
I am waiting for S-400 to be inducted and then the scenario would be totally different.

So our grounded jets during Kargil was due to spares and non - conventional problems?
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Seriously ?? do you believe 100% of air assets were not air worthy ?
I believe some marde momin was missing to call the shots.:D
 
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It would seriously be who will call the first shot in the battle, if India calls in the First shots, it would be a hell difficult for PAF to be make assets airborne. But taking in account the hesitating attitude of GOI in decision making, it's highly unlikely that this will happen.
I am waiting for S-400 to be inducted and then the scenario would be totally different.

Source: F-16 sale: India’s protests will have no effect on Obama; Pakistan is too vital to US in afghanistan | Page 6
How long are the going to be in the air for? its not like they can re-arm in the air.
This is exactly why IAF has numbers and SAMs. The IA won't wait on the IAF to wage a air battle. They'll bombard PAF with everything they have. IA will fire off its arty at the drop of the hat.
You need to go to some doctor immediately .these are lost thoughts , dont delay and take an attendant with you too for an unseen situation .

Source: F-16 sale: India’s protests will have no effect on Obama; Pakistan is too vital to US in afghanistan | Page 6
okay.
 
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How long are the going to be in the air for? its not like they can re-arm in the air.
This is exactly why IAF has numbers and SAMs. The IA won't wait on the IAF to wage a air battle. They'll bombard PAF with everything they have. IA will fire off its arty at the drop of the hat.

okay.

I see. So we are basically doomed and the Vedic artillery will take out our Air Force bases? And we will watch munching on fries and cookies, right? Just curious though, while you are doing all this, can you arrange for those circus stunts on motorbikes that your army does? I mean here in Pakistan just before we are all killed? Always wanted to see military jokers before I die. Can you please?
 
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