F-16 moved from Shahbaz to Sargodha: Implications

[Juggernautjatt]

How many Blk-52s are in service with PAF as of now?

 

[Hurter]

What concern is Israel for Pakistan and how does it relate to its F-16s at all?

US has been monitoring F16s each movement in Pakistan. You never know what happens in future. My point is, anytime in future if something happens between Pakistan & Israel would US allow Pak to use F16s against Israel?

 

[VCheng]

US has been monitoring F16s each movement in Pakistan. You never know what happens in future. My point is, anytime in future if something happens between Pakistan & Israel would US allow Pak to use F16s against Israel?

There will never be a need for direct confrontation between Israel and Pakistan where F-16s would be needed. Ever.

 

[surya kiran]

Agreed, US did provide Pakistan with F-16s with certain hindsights like when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, but even without these aircrafts, Pakistan has a very credible conventional and nonconventional defensive/offensive capability, you seem to be just praising America in every thread, no doubt their technology is the best but it also needs a professional to utilise this technology to it's best......even the F-16s.
This what you said elsewhere.

Say hello to the new avatar of Vcheng

 

[Screambowl]

may be due to unrest in the country what IK and TUQ are doing.

 

[araz]

Are we really sure that he stood up to the US? Or was he essentially just gambling on the importance at that time. Regardless, the man did show more nerve than the next dictator that ruled this land. The US or any other nation was not able to influence or enact any of its interests that effectively without willing players within the Pakistani state itself.

He stood up to the US as much as any Pakistani person has stood up to US and then some more. So the story goes he was done in by kith and kin for 5 million$ each at the order of some Fareigner. Its an open secret in the armed forces(PAF) as to who these people wereand even who was paid what. The investigation on the other hand did not find anything wrong at all(Aur kar lo Gul).

"The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
But in ourselves, that we are underlings."

Once a naughty old Putty cat always a naughty old putty cat Mr. Vcheng AKA Syed Ali Haider.
Araz

 

[VCheng]

He stood up to the US as much as any Pakistani person has stood up to US and then some more. So the story goes he was done in by kith and kin for 5 million$ each at the order of some Fareigner. Its an open secret in the armed forces(PAF) as to who these people wereand even who was paid what. The investigation on the other hand did not find anything wrong at all(Aur kar lo Gul).
Araz

A story is a mere story without any verification.

 

[Storm Force]

You people put to much importance on USA.

If you had a half decent leadership and strong GDP you would not be worried about USA and their control over your top notch air assets.

It's rubbish that they are in yourccountry at your airbase monitoring your movements

 

[trident2010]

Why PAF agrees for US to monitor their assets? For a sovereign country it doesn't bodes well.

 

[SQ8]

Why PAF agrees for US to monitor their assets? For a sovereign country it doesn't bodes well.

It is because of its own earlier desperation. The Chinese were given a lot of free hand during the late 80s and early 90's to take a loot at PAF F-16s.

 

[araz]

A story is a mere story without any verification.

Putty cat.
A lot of things are brushed under the carpet to suit certain individuals and vested interests. That is how people like Liaquat Ali Khan are killed and all the evidence report carried in a plane goes down with the plane. Zia was certainly not the first one to be killed and nor will he be the last one. The proof lies in the pudding but in Pakistan everyone loves halwa. Here is a little verbal twirl for a master of verbal pirouettes like you. By the way why the change of names.
Araz

 

[VCheng]

It is because of its own earlier desperation. The Chinese were given a lot of free hand during the late 80s and early 90's to take a loot at PAF F-16s.

But it is much more fun to blame USA for added restrictions on the F-16s without calling out Pakistan's violations that led to them.

 

[SQ8]

But it is much more fun to blame USA for added restrictions on the F-16s without calling out Pakistan's violations that led to them.

Well, those violations were called survival. Once you get to a corned cat situation, you may realize that someday.

 

[VCheng]

Well, those violations were called survival. Once you get to a corned cat situation, you may realize that someday.

Oh what Pakistan did could be justified, but that also means that the US response is equally justified. That is just how international geopolitics work. Pakistan also gave the Chinese a detailed look at the tail of that chopper lost in the OBL raid too, as a "major non-NATO ally" with billions coming in, right? Same thing.

(But it is still more fun to blame USA, right? )

 

[SQ8]

Oh what Pakistan did could be justified, but that also means that the US response is equally justified. That is just how international geopolitics work. Pakistan also gave the Chinese a detailed look at the tail of that chopper lost in the OBL raid too, as a "major non-NATO ally" with billions coming in, right? Same thing.

(But it is still more fun to blame USA, right? )

Urmm.. the tail of a chopper which violated the airspace without permission and carried out a raid without permission.
So cant compare that. But I understand baba ji, certain stances have to be taken lest big brother takes offence to them.