You played with barbies...?TexasJohn said:I like the song on the LCA clip!! That brings back some college day toga party memories!!!
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You played with barbies...?TexasJohn said:I like the song on the LCA clip!! That brings back some college day toga party memories!!!
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and where will paf get radar signatures of MKI from ??Munir said:Let us put it simple. Without those memory banks one needs other ECM recorderding planes and one needs to return to base to reprogram the ECM. It is less flexible. Yet with that many planes around (AWACS, ELINT) and probably alternatives (JF17/J10) it is not huge problem cause the opponent has not much superior options either. If PAF gets BVR communication, radar signatures of MKI then the war is not onesided at all.
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i dont think anyone here pretends that india is a superpower.. but you fail to realize the level of economic difference its more of a 1-6/7 .. that itself determines a lot of difference in capabilites.Munir said:Bully,
Here you are shouting a statement that has no value. You are pretending that India is a superpower and anything that Pakistan has is pathetic.
the fact that you have to start your argument with "nukes".. itself show the level of insecurity you are living in.. it sounds like " see i have nukes .. you cant harm me any more " ..Let me entertain you shortly. If you look at the broader picture you will see that both nations have nukes and multiple delivery items. Both nations have more then a few point defence fighters. Chance of anyone leaving unharmed is practicly zero. Now somehow we can forget that and see only PAF and IAF.
it depends upon whom are we comparing IAF to if that PAF then surely IAF rocks.. its much stronger .. do you want to deny this please go ahead and give out some statistics. ??What makes IAF so good? Those old mig21 that are shortlegged? Those Jaguars that antique? Those mig23/27 that are rusting? Those gone mig25? Or those few mirage 2000-H? The oldest versions of mig29? The only thing one can brag about is the MKI and ecen that is not superlicious.
and all these decades pakstian doesnt have anything near the imported MKI..It is a big plane and in the PAF-IAF arena one needs to see whether it will deliver results. Do mind that it is not BRF where you can arrogantly shout. Either show evidence or logic. What does India posses that should make Pakistan shaking? Those two decades left to produce imported MKI? Those imported Israeli AWACS?
india is developing a basic jet.. it has produced a good no of basic jets.. starting from mig21 to jags to now MKI's.. while pakstian is still waiting to produce a basic jet in the form of JF17..India is waiting to produce a basic jet.
again india is 6-7 times economically stronger than paksitan.. its military is much bigger than paksitan.. its aerospace industry is much bigger and better than paksitan... ..India failed even in producing a basic tank and now copied Pakistan with Tank-Ex (much lighter then Arjun). There is not one single arena where we should see India as a superpower or superpower to be. India is not able to produce high tech weapons and sofar it has never exported anything like that. Its airforce lacks trainers and high tech planes. Oops I forgot, it even lacks pilots...
so does pakistan.. there are a lot of ignorant people from both countries trying to prove stuff without knowing anything.. and in fact to some extent you and me are no better than partially acknowledged about stuff like these planes..And I can conclude that it lacks intellegent supporters on the net...
further is again a relative term.. are you talking about further pakistan.. then when was it not the case??Let us think again when you talk about India being further...
Neo said:You played with barbies...?
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what you are trying to do with JF17 is what we have already done with MKI.. and we all know whats a bigger achievement a MKI or a JF17.. ??
SAAB, is cutting down its fleet of jas39, so now there is a lot of grippen jas39 fighter aircraft available this is a once in a life time oppurtunity for pakistan we must get those fighter jets jas39 is a fourth genaration fighter aircraft pakistan must do all it can to secure the sale of these saab grippen jas39 for the pakistan air force with out delay and must buy them at once.thanks
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SAAB/BAE just offered some to Bulgaria yesterday. I dont think Pakistan is interested in the JAS Gripen anymore . Why buy a fighter jet that is equally prone to sanctions and inferior to the Block60/52 F-16 ?
Grippen is inferior to F16 bolck 50/52 in payload due to small engine as compared to F100-PW-229 but have almost same avionics as block 50/52 have.SAAB, is cutting down its fleet of jas39, so now there is a lot of grippen jas39 fighter aircraft available this is a once in a life time oppurtunity for pakistan we must get those fighter jets jas39 is a fourth genaration fighter aircraft pakistan must do all it can to secure the sale of these saab grippen jas39 for the pakistan air force with out delay and must buy them at once.thanks
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SAAB/BAE just offered some to Bulgaria yesterday. I dont think Pakistan is interested in the JAS Gripen anymore . Why buy a fighter jet that is equally prone to sanctions and inferior to the Block60/52 F-16 ?
Grippen is inferior to F16 bolck 50/52 in payload due to small engine as compared to F100-PW-229 but have almost same avionics as block 50/52 have.
I can only hope and wish that someone, somewhere, will realize that Pakistan is getting ready to spend copious quantities of money on an airframe that is very much at "end of life" even for the USAF, regardless of the " block". It is nothing more than a marketing strategy to keep a few good old boys employed in Ft.Worth.
There are other planes out there that do outperform the F-16. Please do think:read: about it!
This is one of the reasons we've downscaled the order.I can only hope and wish that someone, somewhere, will realize that Pakistan is getting ready to spend copious quantities of money on an airframe that is very much at "end of life" even for the USAF, regardless of the " block". It is nothing more than a marketing strategy to keep a few good old boys employed in Ft.Worth.
There are other planes out there that do outperform the F-16. Please do think:read: about it!
This is one of the reasons we've downscaled the order.
they dont have any su-27 instead they have su-30 and mig-29 which is around 200 is a great threat towards pakistan....How many operational Mig-29's plus Su-27's does the Indian airforce have in total? It can't be more than a 100 is it?