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Ex TTP Spokesman Ehsanullah Ehsan surrenders to Pakistan army: ISPR

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Just a hint. Please read some law books and see if witness testimony is a legal and admissible to any court law or not.... Read any law US, British, Pakistani, indian, KSA, Shariah all so you will come to know that "witness testimony is DEFINITELY more than words".
Just a hint, I've taken classes, before I decided that being a lawyer wasn't for me.

You cannot determine guilt simply on an accusation, which witness testimony is. Legally, it is nothing more than supplemental to actual physical evidence, and judgments aren't made upon just testimony.

If witness testimony was enough to convict someone, half of Pakistan's politicians would be in jail.

Next time you want to be condescending, try to actually bring something substantial to the table, Mister I don't have time to argue.
 
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Cross border kenetic ops, S&D, Lurps. Pak Spec Ops are a world class outfit.
 
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Inside story of TTP-JA spokesman’s surrender
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ISLAMABAD: Liaqat Ali alias Ehsanullah Ehsan would not face any terrorism or criminal case against him in any court of law including the military court, as he returned after getting assurances from security establishment and promise to share secrets of Taliban.

“Ehsan has been assured that no case would be initiated or pursued against him including those which are already registered against him,” highly placed sources revealed to The News here on Thursday.

The sources claimed that Asmatullah Moavia, another former militant commander who once headed Punjabi Taliban, played a key role in bringing back Ehsanullah Ehsan, former spokesman of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Jamaatul Ahrar (JA).

“Moavia connected Ehsanullah with a security agency which resulted in the return of former TTP-JA spokesman,“ sources further revealed.

Asmatullah Moavia was the first top militant commander who left TTP from North Waziristan and returned to settled areas of Pakistan in July 2014 after securing amnesty from the security and intelligence officials.

A source who is privy to the details of surrender revealed that Moavia is a close friend of Ehsan, who first initiated a debate with fomer in 2015. Moavia successfully convinced Ehsan following.

Moavia in his latest statement issued on his social media account gives a background of his relationship with Ehsan saying he was introduced to him since he was appointed as spokesman of TTP.

He said, “After my return under an agreement, almost 20 months ago, we again got connected and our connection remained until his return. He kept consulting me regarding his return however he had the right of decision which he took and returned”.

The sources claim that Moavia contacted a security agency and shared that Ehsan wants to talk directly.

The sources claim that the approval to contact Ehsan was given by the security agency chief following which certain officers were deputed to carry forward the assignment to its logical end. The sources add that Ehsan surrendered himself along his wife and a son at Pak-Afghan border near Chaman on February 6.

But his surrender was not announced until April 17, 2017 by the director general of Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR). The delay was for the obvious reasons to get some specific intelligence from the new “asset” and carry some quick operations. It is yet a secret whether during the period between February 7 to April 17, intelligence community could retrieve some immediate actionable intelligence or not.

After the formal announcement of his surrender by the DG ISPR the TTP-JA spokesman Asad Mansor responded by his statement on very day, claiming that Ehsan along with two others were arrested from Paktika province of Afghanistan. However he did not share who were the other two who got arrested. Actually Ehsan was accompanying his wife and son when he surrendered.

He kept claiming the brutal attacks of TTP and JA on innocent citizens including women and children.

Ehsan belongs to Mohmand Agency and is also a Pashtu language poet. He once had shared with this correspondent that he translated poetry of famous romantic Urdu poet, late Ahmad Faraz in Pashtu.

Besides the surety of not opening the cases against him he has also been assured of security, accommodation and food.

The sources are mum if the returned militant commander has been provided a stipend or not. This is also not clear that the arrangement to provide Ehsan security, accommodation and food will be for how much period.

Moavia who had left TTP was later declared as an agent of another agency by a less known militant organisation Ansarul Mujahideen in September 2014. Interestingly he renounced TTP in a video message in which he said his faction of Taliban would continue its operations in Afghanistan against NATO and ISAF forces. He had also urged other Taliban groups in Pakistan to renounce violence and return to the peace process with the government.

He hails from Vehri district of Punjab and is now living a silent life in Peshawar with a high security. No one knows what he is doing and how he is running his life. The fate of Ehsan seems similar to that of Moavia.

Moavia in the same statement also points out that 85 people including real brother of Hakimullah Mehsud and Sheikh Abdur Rahim, a close aide of Hakimullah Mehsud surrendered before the state.

However, there are others who challenge this narrative. Among them are the relatives of the people died in the militant attacks.

“How can I forgive my enemy Ehsanullah Ehsan, he is a murderer. State should first get the opinion of those whose loved ones got killed due to people like him. Go ask the mothers of the martyred students of Army public school,” said Nourin Aslam, the widow of Ch Aslam, while talking to this correspondent.

Ehsanullah Ehsan is also a nominated accused in the attack of Ch Aslam’s residence in Karachi on September 19, 2011 in which several body guards of Ch Aslam got killed. Ch Aslam was a renowned superintendent of police in Karachi who died in a suicide attack in Karachi on January 9, 2014. He was known for his bravery in fighting militants.

In this regard when former Inspector General of Punjab Police Shaukat Javed was contacted he said that Ehsanullah Ehsan was pulled out of mainstream by Taliban so there was no option left with him but to surrender. Former IGP termed Ehsan’s surrender a good catch which would ultimately help security forces to know modus operandi and other details about Taliban.

Federal government time and again kept assuring its domestic and international audience that they are not differentiating between good and bad Taliban rather they are equally treating with all the militants.

Until now the government has not shared its policy (if it has a policy) with the parliament regarding reintegration of militants.
 
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Just a hint, I've taken classes, before I decided that being a lawyer wasn't for me.

You cannot determine guilt simply on an accusation, which witness testimony is. Legally, it is nothing more than supplemental to actual physical evidence, and judgments aren't made upon just testimony.

If witness testimony was enough to convict someone, half of Pakistan's politicians would be in jail.

Next time you want to be condescending, try to actually bring something substantial to the table, Mister I don't have time to argue.
I wasn't condescending sir!!!
I just wanted to do correction.
 
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Inside story of TTP-JA spokesman’s surrender
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ISLAMABAD: Liaqat Ali alias Ehsanullah Ehsan would not face any terrorism or criminal case against him in any court of law including the military court, as he returned after getting assurances from security establishment and promise to share secrets of Taliban.

“Ehsan has been assured that no case would be initiated or pursued against him including those which are already registered against him,” highly placed sources revealed to The News here on Thursday.

The sources claimed that Asmatullah Moavia, another former militant commander who once headed Punjabi Taliban, played a key role in bringing back Ehsanullah Ehsan, former spokesman of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Jamaatul Ahrar (JA).

“Moavia connected Ehsanullah with a security agency which resulted in the return of former TTP-JA spokesman,“ sources further revealed.

Asmatullah Moavia was the first top militant commander who left TTP from North Waziristan and returned to settled areas of Pakistan in July 2014 after securing amnesty from the security and intelligence officials.

A source who is privy to the details of surrender revealed that Moavia is a close friend of Ehsan, who first initiated a debate with fomer in 2015. Moavia successfully convinced Ehsan following.

Moavia in his latest statement issued on his social media account gives a background of his relationship with Ehsan saying he was introduced to him since he was appointed as spokesman of TTP.

He said, “After my return under an agreement, almost 20 months ago, we again got connected and our connection remained until his return. He kept consulting me regarding his return however he had the right of decision which he took and returned”.

The sources claim that Moavia contacted a security agency and shared that Ehsan wants to talk directly.

The sources claim that the approval to contact Ehsan was given by the security agency chief following which certain officers were deputed to carry forward the assignment to its logical end. The sources add that Ehsan surrendered himself along his wife and a son at Pak-Afghan border near Chaman on February 6.

But his surrender was not announced until April 17, 2017 by the director general of Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR). The delay was for the obvious reasons to get some specific intelligence from the new “asset” and carry some quick operations. It is yet a secret whether during the period between February 7 to April 17, intelligence community could retrieve some immediate actionable intelligence or not.

After the formal announcement of his surrender by the DG ISPR the TTP-JA spokesman Asad Mansor responded by his statement on very day, claiming that Ehsan along with two others were arrested from Paktika province of Afghanistan. However he did not share who were the other two who got arrested. Actually Ehsan was accompanying his wife and son when he surrendered.

He kept claiming the brutal attacks of TTP and JA on innocent citizens including women and children.

Ehsan belongs to Mohmand Agency and is also a Pashtu language poet. He once had shared with this correspondent that he translated poetry of famous romantic Urdu poet, late Ahmad Faraz in Pashtu.

Besides the surety of not opening the cases against him he has also been assured of security, accommodation and food.

The sources are mum if the returned militant commander has been provided a stipend or not. This is also not clear that the arrangement to provide Ehsan security, accommodation and food will be for how much period.

Moavia who had left TTP was later declared as an agent of another agency by a less known militant organisation Ansarul Mujahideen in September 2014. Interestingly he renounced TTP in a video message in which he said his faction of Taliban would continue its operations in Afghanistan against NATO and ISAF forces. He had also urged other Taliban groups in Pakistan to renounce violence and return to the peace process with the government.

He hails from Vehri district of Punjab and is now living a silent life in Peshawar with a high security. No one knows what he is doing and how he is running his life. The fate of Ehsan seems similar to that of Moavia.

Moavia in the same statement also points out that 85 people including real brother of Hakimullah Mehsud and Sheikh Abdur Rahim, a close aide of Hakimullah Mehsud surrendered before the state.

However, there are others who challenge this narrative. Among them are the relatives of the people died in the militant attacks.

“How can I forgive my enemy Ehsanullah Ehsan, he is a murderer. State should first get the opinion of those whose loved ones got killed due to people like him. Go ask the mothers of the martyred students of Army public school,” said Nourin Aslam, the widow of Ch Aslam, while talking to this correspondent.

Ehsanullah Ehsan is also a nominated accused in the attack of Ch Aslam’s residence in Karachi on September 19, 2011 in which several body guards of Ch Aslam got killed. Ch Aslam was a renowned superintendent of police in Karachi who died in a suicide attack in Karachi on January 9, 2014. He was known for his bravery in fighting militants.

In this regard when former Inspector General of Punjab Police Shaukat Javed was contacted he said that Ehsanullah Ehsan was pulled out of mainstream by Taliban so there was no option left with him but to surrender. Former IGP termed Ehsan’s surrender a good catch which would ultimately help security forces to know modus operandi and other details about Taliban.

Federal government time and again kept assuring its domestic and international audience that they are not differentiating between good and bad Taliban rather they are equally treating with all the militants.

Until now the government has not shared its policy (if it has a policy) with the parliament regarding reintegration of militants.
I am not thrilled after reading this. This way any murderer can get away with any act of terrorism in the past by just surrendering today. Both Muawia and Ehsanullah Ehsan should be hanged for working for foreign agencies and sparking violent terror in the country. It is only fitting for those thousands of victims of terrorism who have died.
 
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Inside story of TTP-JA spokesman’s surrender
l_201621_094436_print.jpg


ISLAMABAD: Liaqat Ali alias Ehsanullah Ehsan would not face any terrorism or criminal case against him in any court of law including the military court, as he returned after getting assurances from security establishment and promise to share secrets of Taliban.

“Ehsan has been assured that no case would be initiated or pursued against him including those which are already registered against him,” highly placed sources revealed to The News here on Thursday.

The sources claimed that Asmatullah Moavia, another former militant commander who once headed Punjabi Taliban, played a key role in bringing back Ehsanullah Ehsan, former spokesman of Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP) and Jamaatul Ahrar (JA).

“Moavia connected Ehsanullah with a security agency which resulted in the return of former TTP-JA spokesman,“ sources further revealed.

Asmatullah Moavia was the first top militant commander who left TTP from North Waziristan and returned to settled areas of Pakistan in July 2014 after securing amnesty from the security and intelligence officials.

A source who is privy to the details of surrender revealed that Moavia is a close friend of Ehsan, who first initiated a debate with fomer in 2015. Moavia successfully convinced Ehsan following.

Moavia in his latest statement issued on his social media account gives a background of his relationship with Ehsan saying he was introduced to him since he was appointed as spokesman of TTP.

He said, “After my return under an agreement, almost 20 months ago, we again got connected and our connection remained until his return. He kept consulting me regarding his return however he had the right of decision which he took and returned”.

The sources claim that Moavia contacted a security agency and shared that Ehsan wants to talk directly.

The sources claim that the approval to contact Ehsan was given by the security agency chief following which certain officers were deputed to carry forward the assignment to its logical end. The sources add that Ehsan surrendered himself along his wife and a son at Pak-Afghan border near Chaman on February 6.

But his surrender was not announced until April 17, 2017 by the director general of Inter Services Public Relations (ISPR). The delay was for the obvious reasons to get some specific intelligence from the new “asset” and carry some quick operations. It is yet a secret whether during the period between February 7 to April 17, intelligence community could retrieve some immediate actionable intelligence or not.

After the formal announcement of his surrender by the DG ISPR the TTP-JA spokesman Asad Mansor responded by his statement on very day, claiming that Ehsan along with two others were arrested from Paktika province of Afghanistan. However he did not share who were the other two who got arrested. Actually Ehsan was accompanying his wife and son when he surrendered.

He kept claiming the brutal attacks of TTP and JA on innocent citizens including women and children.

Ehsan belongs to Mohmand Agency and is also a Pashtu language poet. He once had shared with this correspondent that he translated poetry of famous romantic Urdu poet, late Ahmad Faraz in Pashtu.

Besides the surety of not opening the cases against him he has also been assured of security, accommodation and food.

The sources are mum if the returned militant commander has been provided a stipend or not. This is also not clear that the arrangement to provide Ehsan security, accommodation and food will be for how much period.

Moavia who had left TTP was later declared as an agent of another agency by a less known militant organisation Ansarul Mujahideen in September 2014. Interestingly he renounced TTP in a video message in which he said his faction of Taliban would continue its operations in Afghanistan against NATO and ISAF forces. He had also urged other Taliban groups in Pakistan to renounce violence and return to the peace process with the government.

He hails from Vehri district of Punjab and is now living a silent life in Peshawar with a high security. No one knows what he is doing and how he is running his life. The fate of Ehsan seems similar to that of Moavia.

Moavia in the same statement also points out that 85 people including real brother of Hakimullah Mehsud and Sheikh Abdur Rahim, a close aide of Hakimullah Mehsud surrendered before the state.

However, there are others who challenge this narrative. Among them are the relatives of the people died in the militant attacks.

“How can I forgive my enemy Ehsanullah Ehsan, he is a murderer. State should first get the opinion of those whose loved ones got killed due to people like him. Go ask the mothers of the martyred students of Army public school,” said Nourin Aslam, the widow of Ch Aslam, while talking to this correspondent.

Ehsanullah Ehsan is also a nominated accused in the attack of Ch Aslam’s residence in Karachi on September 19, 2011 in which several body guards of Ch Aslam got killed. Ch Aslam was a renowned superintendent of police in Karachi who died in a suicide attack in Karachi on January 9, 2014. He was known for his bravery in fighting militants.

In this regard when former Inspector General of Punjab Police Shaukat Javed was contacted he said that Ehsanullah Ehsan was pulled out of mainstream by Taliban so there was no option left with him but to surrender. Former IGP termed Ehsan’s surrender a good catch which would ultimately help security forces to know modus operandi and other details about Taliban.

Federal government time and again kept assuring its domestic and international audience that they are not differentiating between good and bad Taliban rather they are equally treating with all the militants.

Until now the government has not shared its policy (if it has a policy) with the parliament regarding reintegration of militants.

Lol unmatched pakistani security forces. By now i know you fanboys just make stories up about isi and your army and ssg and whatever else soothes your fragile egos. I read your post and the usual suspects who thanked it and had a good chuckle.

Better than OBL lol!

Those who know this was a classic Intel-based cross-border Op by our SF to capture and bring back a high value target besides killing a number of insignificant but dangerous side kicks.

Despite this great achievement there is no hoha either by government, Army, NSA media or any other quarter of the state, even the fan boys of PDF. This is how nations who have confidence on the capabilities of their defence forces, behave. They believe in achieving the objectives without the fanfare, unlike the make believe circus played by delusional wannabe's across the border, probably because they know their true capabilities or in-capabilities to be specific.

If the authorities decide to release the details of the operation (which I doubt they will in the near future, for the sake of more similar operations in the future), People will find out how well planned and executed this operation was, much better than the OBL operation because unlike Americans, we went in hostile country facing two hostile enemies Afghan government forces and TTP).


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Jammat-ul-Ahrar and TTP spokes man Ehsanullah Ehsan has laid down arms and has surrendered to Pakistan Army.

My best wishes to the entire nation on this remarkable achievement of Pak Army
Ehsan was captured on March 7 by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI-D) along with “three other colleagues” and subsequently turned over to the Pakistani military. Ehsan was captured in Afghanistan’s Paktika province, which borders Pakistan and is a known haven for multiple jihadist groups.
 
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Ehsan was captured on March 7 by Pakistan’s Inter-Services Intelligence Directorate (ISI-D) along with “three other colleagues” and subsequently turned over to the Pakistani military. Ehsan was captured in Afghanistan’s Paktika province, which borders Pakistan and is a known haven for multiple jihadist groups.
In media you have to say what ISPR says. So he surrendered to Pakistani forces.
 
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We need to decide what to do with him. He was in one of the top TTP positions as a spokesperson and as such is responsible for the killing of hundreds if not thousands of Pakistani civilians and soldiers. Anyone can surrender when the going gets tough. It does not absolve the person however of his or her severe crimes against humanity. Also there is the potential that Ehsanullah may again revert to terrorism.

I am not sure what should be done but it shouldn't be easy for Ehsanullah, just saying he has renounced violence after killing so many innocents. Why was he part of the TTP anyway. Where was his honor and shame when he was killing our people mercilessly and speaking for the terrorists? Now suddenly we are supposed to believe that after being in a top TTP position he has given up violence just like that. Every angle should be investigated. Also Fazlullah is the main target. Kill him and we will celebrate.
he didnt say anything himself....... his statement was typed , rehersed and recorded , then leaked by who?...........everyone knows , THE WHO

He surrendered nothing more. The ISPR said it so every thing else is false story.
dr asim , and balouch uzair recorded same statements in aabpara film studios
but the film went flop after some weeks
 
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dr asim , and balouch uzair recorded same statements in aabpara film studios
but the film went flop after some weeks
Don't have much info about that but if you are trying to say that this EhsanUllah Ehsan confession is a film then you are at mistake because what he is saying is also backed by history.
 
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Don't have much info about that but if you are trying to say that this EhsanUllah Ehsan confession is a film then you are at mistake because what he is saying is also backed by history.
any one can read history,
tell us the future , mr ehsan
or ispr

any one can read history,
tell us the future , mr ehsan
or ispr
TTP. EVEN CLAIMED THE INCIDENTS THAT were not even done by them????/

any one can read history,
tell us the future , mr ehsan
or ispr


TTP. EVEN CLAIMED THE INCIDENTS THAT were not even done by them????/
money, fame glory? or just ignorance
 
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