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Ex RAW Chief: IC-814 was Vajpayee's fault, but what would've Cong done in his place?
by Sandipan Sharma Jul 4, 2015 10:36 IST



It is India's great fortune that we have not had a repeat of IC-814 incident. Had another plane been hijacked under similar circumstances, we would have known how much of "we-don't-negotiate" bombast of the current politicians survived public pressure.

So, the Congress can count its blessings and continue berating the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government for releasing three terrorists in return of the passengers in the hijacked aircraft. Let us hope the Congress is never put to a similar test.

"Let me say, we goofed up... what was upper most in everybody's mind was security of the people," former RAW chief AS Dulat said on the Kandahar hijack during an interview on India Today television on Thursday. Dulat is right.


A file photo of Talibanis praying near the hijacked IC-814 flight. REUTERS

During the six tense days of the hijacking drama — from the moment the plane left Nepal and reached Kandahar — there was not even a moment when the Vajpayee government had the option of sacrificing the passengers and crew. Visuals of shabbily dressed Talibanis circling the plane with Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers, the murder of Rupin Katyal, who was stabbed by hijackers, the mounting pressure from relatives of passengers, the prevailing mood in the nation and the emotional subtext of the coverage of the event had left Vajpayee with no other option.

To complicate matters, the drama was played out on the land of the Taliban and the hideout of Osama bin Laden. The West had refused to help India in its fight. There was no way Vajpayee could have allowed the slaughter of innocent Indians on the eve of a new millennium. He had to give in to the demands of the terrorists.

On New Year's Eve (1999), when passengers were finally freed and brought back to Delhi, the scene at the airport was of jubilation and relief. Thousands of people had gathered for the welcome, the crew was garlanded as victorious heroes, there were drums, music, cheering and dancing; not even a hint that India had capitulated.

It is not difficult to imagine how this emotionally-charged crowd had reacted if the passengers were brought back into body bags and coffins. The country would have erupted in anger. "We got back our 155 for their three. My thanks to Jaswant Singh," an anxious relative had told newspapers then, summing up the opinion of the majority.

Jaswant Singh, who took the ridiculous decision of accompanying the freed terrorists, was not a symbol of a soft state then. He was seen as a representative of a state that saved 155 lives. Vajpayee, back then, had decided to fight another day.

Just to put the record straight, here are two instances of the Congress surrendering to militants. In 1991, an executive director of Indian Oil was kidnapped by militants in Srinagar. To secure his release, the then home minister SB Chavan released nine militants. Two years later, nearly four dozen JKLF militants were allowed safe passage from the Hazratbal shrine, where they had held 170 civilians hostage for six weeks.

It is difficult to imagine the Congress could have had the courage to act differently when asked to choose between the lives of IC-814 passengers and Maulana Masood Azhar and his cronies. But Dulat is right in blaming the Vajpayee government for lack of quick response to the hijacking.

Soon after the terrorists entered the plane's cockpit, its pilot Devisharan managed to send a timely SOS to the air traffic controller. To give the government adequate time to react, he even slowed down the speed of the plane significantly and convinced the terrorists to allow him to land for refueling in Indian territory.

But, as Dulat says, the Indian government froze. "So instead of giving out clear instruction to Punjab police, which was in charge on ground there... nobody was willing to say this plane should never be allowed to leave Amritsar. That nobody said, because nobody was willing to take that call. Everybody thought what will happen if people die," he said.

But, back then, even Dulat had been criticized for not being able to pre-empt the incident. As the RAW chief, it was, after all, his job to track terrorists and ideally foil their plans. The hijacking was, in fact, an example of the failure of the entire Indian machinery. To argue today that 155 innocent people should have paid the price of the state's inefficiency is pure hypocrisy and insensitivity.

Dulat's shocking revelations: IC-814 was Vajpayee's fault, but what would've Cong done in his place? - Firstpost
 
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India has a history of giving into demands of Terrorists, 5 terrorists were released after Mufti Mohammad Sayeed's daughter got kidnapped back in '89. As far as who's fault it was, i think it was collective responsibility of the politicians across the party lines for not having a strong policy when it came to dealing with such situations.
 
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It was really a mess-up ......................In Amritsar we had plenty of time...................at least the tyre burst would have been a good solution.................
 
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It was really a mess-up ......................In Amritsar we had plenty of time...................at least the tyre burst would have been a good solution.................
It would have been a political suicide if the rescue operation went south. So the government of that time followed in the footsteps of their predecessors.
 
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India has a history of giving into demands of Terrorists, 5 terrorists were released after Mufti Mohammad Sayeed's daughter got kidnapped back in '89. As far as who's fault it was, i think it was collective responsibility of the politicians across the party lines for not having a strong policy when it came to dealing with such situations.
Yes, I've often heard of Mufti's case. The kidnapping set the stage for heightened militancy in the state. Many say the abduction was the watershed in the Kashmir insurgency.

I blame it on the pusillanimous attitude of our politicians.
But today, our government appears very feisty, I hope they live up to our expectations.
 
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Yes, I've often heard of Mufti's case. The kidnapping set the stage for heightened militancy in the state. Many say the abduction was the watershed in the Kashmir insurgency.

I blame it on the pusillanimous attitude of our politicians.
But today, our government appears very feisty, I hope they live up to our expectations.
Government appears very feisty because it has the mandate, there is a reason why Modi acts like he does and it's because of the huge mandate he got. If BJP fell short of 272 mark he would have to abide by the "Coalition Dharma"
 
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Government appears very feisty because it has the mandate, there is a reason why Modi acts like he does and it's because of the huge mandate he got. If BJP fell short of 272 mark he would have to abide by the "Coalition Dharma"
highly doubt it. This one is not cut from the same cloth.
 
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highly doubt it. This one is not cut from the same cloth.
I agree but if BJP would have got something like 182 instead of 282 things would have been different. He chose Jaitley as FM and DM when he formed the government, a person who couldn't win his own seat in Modi wave.
 
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India fucked up big time on that one, before it was flown to Afghanistan, Plane first landed on indian soil and stayed there for many hours but the indian leadership really did not know what to do


Ex RAW Chief: IC-814 was Vajpayee's fault, but what would've Cong done in his place?
by Sandipan Sharma Jul 4, 2015 10:36 IST



It is India's great fortune that we have not had a repeat of IC-814 incident. Had another plane been hijacked under similar circumstances, we would have known how much of "we-don't-negotiate" bombast of the current politicians survived public pressure.

So, the Congress can count its blessings and continue berating the Atal Bihari Vajpayee government for releasing three terrorists in return of the passengers in the hijacked aircraft. Let us hope the Congress is never put to a similar test.

"Let me say, we goofed up... what was upper most in everybody's mind was security of the people," former RAW chief AS Dulat said on the Kandahar hijack during an interview on India Today television on Thursday. Dulat is right.


A file photo of Talibanis praying near the hijacked IC-814 flight. REUTERS

During the six tense days of the hijacking drama — from the moment the plane left Nepal and reached Kandahar — there was not even a moment when the Vajpayee government had the option of sacrificing the passengers and crew. Visuals of shabbily dressed Talibanis circling the plane with Kalashnikovs and rocket launchers, the murder of Rupin Katyal, who was stabbed by hijackers, the mounting pressure from relatives of passengers, the prevailing mood in the nation and the emotional subtext of the coverage of the event had left Vajpayee with no other option.

To complicate matters, the drama was played out on the land of the Taliban and the hideout of Osama bin Laden. The West had refused to help India in its fight. There was no way Vajpayee could have allowed the slaughter of innocent Indians on the eve of a new millennium. He had to give in to the demands of the terrorists.

On New Year's Eve (1999), when passengers were finally freed and brought back to Delhi, the scene at the airport was of jubilation and relief. Thousands of people had gathered for the welcome, the crew was garlanded as victorious heroes, there were drums, music, cheering and dancing; not even a hint that India had capitulated.

It is not difficult to imagine how this emotionally-charged crowd had reacted if the passengers were brought back into body bags and coffins. The country would have erupted in anger. "We got back our 155 for their three. My thanks to Jaswant Singh," an anxious relative had told newspapers then, summing up the opinion of the majority.

Jaswant Singh, who took the ridiculous decision of accompanying the freed terrorists, was not a symbol of a soft state then. He was seen as a representative of a state that saved 155 lives. Vajpayee, back then, had decided to fight another day.

Just to put the record straight, here are two instances of the Congress surrendering to militants. In 1991, an executive director of Indian Oil was kidnapped by militants in Srinagar. To secure his release, the then home minister SB Chavan released nine militants. Two years later, nearly four dozen JKLF militants were allowed safe passage from the Hazratbal shrine, where they had held 170 civilians hostage for six weeks.

It is difficult to imagine the Congress could have had the courage to act differently when asked to choose between the lives of IC-814 passengers and Maulana Masood Azhar and his cronies. But Dulat is right in blaming the Vajpayee government for lack of quick response to the hijacking.

Soon after the terrorists entered the plane's cockpit, its pilot Devisharan managed to send a timely SOS to the air traffic controller. To give the government adequate time to react, he even slowed down the speed of the plane significantly and convinced the terrorists to allow him to land for refueling in Indian territory.

But, as Dulat says, the Indian government froze. "So instead of giving out clear instruction to Punjab police, which was in charge on ground there... nobody was willing to say this plane should never be allowed to leave Amritsar. That nobody said, because nobody was willing to take that call. Everybody thought what will happen if people die," he said.

But, back then, even Dulat had been criticized for not being able to pre-empt the incident. As the RAW chief, it was, after all, his job to track terrorists and ideally foil their plans. The hijacking was, in fact, an example of the failure of the entire Indian machinery. To argue today that 155 innocent people should have paid the price of the state's inefficiency is pure hypocrisy and insensitivity.

Dulat's shocking revelations: IC-814 was Vajpayee's fault, but what would've Cong done in his place? - Firstpost
 
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India fucked up big time on that one, before it was flown to Afghanistan, Plane first landed on indian soil and stayed there for many hours but the indian leadership really did not know what to do
Yes, back then we were not prepared for such circumstances.
But now we have a system in place, we have tough anti-hijack policy that lays down procedures for shooting down a hijacked aircraft, heightened security presence in all airports by the Central Industrial Security Force (CISF), sky marshals in flights and a fortified internal security mechanism.
 
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Yes, I've often heard of Mufti's case. The kidnapping set the stage for heightened militancy in the state. Many say the abduction was the watershed in the Kashmir insurgency.

I blame it on the pusillanimous attitude of our politicians.
But today, our government appears very feisty, I hope they live up to our expectations.

It helps if we can avoid making sweeping judgement w/o knowing the full context of situation.

May be India messed up and may be we didn't. You do know that terrorists were armed to the teeth and wouldn't have hesitated in killing every single passenger if push came to shove.

Lives of passengers I believe you will agree with me is far more important than deaths of those two penny scum terrorists, Govt at that time didn't have proper protocols established for dealing with the situation in that case I personally believe they negotiators did a marvelous job of securing the hostages with minimum casualties.

That we had to cave in and release those terrorists is a source of national shame, but my friend I can live with that shame if it means those passengers get back to their loved ones safe.

In such situations, an ancient jewish quote comes to mind which I saw in movie Schindler's List

One who saves a life, saves the world entire.

-Peace

@Nihonjin1051 @FaujHistorian @WAJsal your views please
 
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Lives of passengers I believe you will agree with me is far more important than deaths of those two penny scum terrorists, Govt at that time didn't have proper protocols established for dealing with the situation in that case I personally believe they negotiators did a marvelous job of securing the hostages with minimum casualties.
I do not blame the government, as I said earlier
back then we were not prepared for such circumstances.
 
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In that particular case it was complete failure at political level as none knew how respond to a situation....
For khoogress, they would have made the arrangement to serve the Hyderabaad briyani to all perpetrators in those tense days of hijacking.......
 
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I do not blame the government, as I said earlier

Point taken, I apologize for quoting you specifically but my point is made towards large number of people both in India and elsewhere who believe that India chickened infront of the terrorists.

We have seen multiple countries have this policy of no negotiation with terrorists but if you google most of them have backtracked from this when faced with hostage exchange situations. US, UK, Japan you name it all have at one point or another negotiated with terrorists.

What i think is we need a debate on this matter on a national level, because terrorists are gonna keep coming and our forces and intelligence agencies may not be successful everytime. In those time there will be a immense public pressure not to negotiate as well as pressure from families of hostages to give in to their demands.

It would help if govt is not paralyzed like earlier
 
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In such situations, an ancient jewish quote comes to mind which I saw in movie Schindler's List

One who saves a life, saves the world entire.

Beautiful quote, you're referring to the verse as per the Mishnah Sanhedrin:

Whoever destroys a soul, it is considered as if he destroyed an entire world. And whoever saves a life, it is considered as if he saved an entire world. — Mishnah Sanhedrin

 
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