Evolution vs. Islam | Mooroo Ke Khayalat

[El Sidd]

Never one of those experiments have ever succeeded.. only in movies like Frankenstein..
Apes never stopped being apes.. the closest evolutionists came up with was the Chimpanzee.. but there is still one gene difference with humans..

You can give birth to a chicken if you have..a rooster with a chicken..

Well whose stopping them to try giving birth to a chicken.

there is no limit to trying. you gave up on your badger toe nails too early

 

[surge]

Darwin theory of evolution is not plausible in this current age and scientist has agreed that his assumptions were wrong but it was a good theory in that times, the people who believe Darwinism is actually taking it as religiously. Organisms evolve to some degree but from atoms to singular organisms to multicellular organisms and then comes the complex design creatures human need some very long time of hit and trial and if you assume there are an infinite number of trails allowed (in reality nature does not allow it). The problem is that our earth is not old enough to perform all this evolutionary process and that's why some scientist think that life come from outside of our planet.
Religiously especially in Islam man evolve from mud (non-living) to human form (evolution). we cannot explain our presence on this planet without the existence of the designer.

 

[El Sidd]

Darwin theory of evolution is not plausible in this current age and scientist has agreed that his assumptions were wrong but it was a good theory in that times, the people who believe Darwinism is actually taking it as religiously. Organisms evolve to some degree but from atoms to singular organisms to multicellular organisms and then comes the complex design creatures human need some very long time of hit and trial and if you assume there are an infinite number of trails allowed (in reality nature does not allow it). The problem is that our earth is not old enough to perform all this evolutionary process and that's why some scientist think that life come from outside of our planet.
Religiously especially in Islam man evolve from mud (non-living) to human form (evolution). we cannot explain our presence on this planet without the existence of the designer.

why are you the only animal who needs to invent food and shelter?

animals are pretty much at home here.

 

[cocomo]

when do you think ape stopped being ape and became human?

Insaan banein mein hai abi dair bohot
filhal faqat dum hi jarhi hai pyare

 

[Lincoln]

Never one of those experiments have ever succeeded.. only in movies like Frankenstein..
Apes never stopped being apes.. the closest evolutionists came up with was the Chimpanzee.. but there is still one gene difference with humans..

You can give birth to a chicken if you have..a rooster with a chicken..

Evolution in the context of constant adaptations to existing and changing nature's phenomena is understandable..Nature is stable and orderly even in its own Chaos.. the adaptation applies to living things moving around it.. The rest is BS.. like Man is a descendent of apes.. while there is a gene difference up till now..

Adaptation in essence can lead to evolution. It starts out with adaptations, then over the course of time due to environmental and behavioral factors, more adaptations occur until the 2 are distinct species.

There are proven case studies, specially on lizard populations on islands.


Secondly, hyman DNA is 99% similar to chimpanzees, genetically what does that say... it means that we at the very least share a common 'ancestor' with that species not too far back in time.

Thirdly, how would you explain fossils of other members of the homo genus.

Also, transitional fossils do indeed exist.

 

[The SC]

Adaptation in essence can lead to evolution. It starts out with adaptations, then over the course of time due to environmental and behavioral factors, more adaptations occur until the 2 are distinct species.

There are proven case studies, specially on lizard populations on islands.


Secondly, hyman DNA is 99% similar to chimpanzees, genetically what does that say... it means that we at the very least share a common 'ancestor' with that species not too far back in time.

Thirdly, how would you explain fossils of other members of the homo genus.

Also, transitional fossils do indeed exist.

Humans share almost all of our DNA with cats, cattle and mice

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-cattle-mice-same-genetics-code-a8292111.html

 

[Armchair]

Islam does not believe humans developed from monkeys, though the Quran says some people were turned into monkeys and pigs.

Evolutionary theory has not been able to prove conclusively that humans have evolved from monkeys. They are still stuck at the "missing link". And their facts are challenged every decade by their own scientists.

A strange anomaly is that, while there are many kinds of monkeys, many kinds of each species, the human species is one. Isn't that strange? Couldn't something half way between a human and a monkey have survived or other varieties of humans have survived when monkeys and so many lesser beings have?

This is but one example of a many on how evolutionists don't make sense and are usually using propaganda and misinformation to push their ideas into Muslims. When I was young, I used to study at a christian school (where they would try to brainwash us to become Christians). And they would also teach us evolution to decrease our faith.

They would show us pictures of half monkeys and half humans. Many years later I found out these pictures are not based on science - they are based on "artists impressions". What a bunch of BS we were brainwashed with! Amazing! That too, inside a Muslim country!

Another argument they would teach us in primary school was the "evidence of evolution" such as the human appendix. Back then, science hadn't advanced enough to understand that the appendix has a function, so they would tell us that "look, this part of your body has no function". "It is a remnant of your evolution from monkeys".

Because of all this brainwashing growing up from a young age (which is used subtly and covertly in many so called "English Medium" schools), by the time I was 13 I questioned the existence of Allah. Alhamdulillah, before giving up on Islam, I decided to read the Quran and it blew the years of brainwashing down the drain in a single reading.

PS: I read the Quran in English, a language I understand. Most people miss out because they parrot the Quran in a language they don't understand. That is why most Muslims today have such little real faith.

 

[truthfollower]

At the end of day faith is just a belief without any proof, nothing more nothing less and should not be taken serious.
This is what taking it so serious has done to our education system.

noun: faith
complete trust or confidence in someone or something.
strong belief in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual conviction rather than proof.
"bereaved people who have shown supreme faith"

 

[Lincoln]

Humans share almost all of our DNA with cats, cattle and mice

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-cattle-mice-same-genetics-code-a8292111.html

Yes, we share common DNA or similarity with all species, this genetically points towards a single point from which the tree of species sprouted. But, % of similarity is significant. While we share 97%-99% DNA with monkeys, it won't be the same for cats or whales. Our lowest DNA similarity is in fact with marine organisms, even then our similarity is in percentages of 10s.

Islam does not believe humans developed from monkeys, though the Quran says some people were turned into monkeys and pigs.

Evolutionary theory has not been able to prove conclusively that humans have evolved from monkeys. They are still stuck at the "missing link". And their facts are challenged every decade by their own scientists.

A strange anomaly is that, while there are many kinds of monkeys, many kinds of each species, the human species is one. Isn't that strange? Couldn't something half way between a human and a monkey have survived or other varieties of humans have survived when monkeys and so many lesser beings have?

This is but one example of a many on how evolutionists don't make sense and are usually using propaganda and misinformation to push their ideas into Muslims. When I was young, I used to study at a christian school (where they would try to brainwash us to become Christians). And they would also teach us evolution to decrease our faith.

They would show us pictures of half monkeys and half humans. Many years later I found out these pictures are not based on science - they are based on "artists impressions". What a bunch of BS we were brainwashed with! Amazing! That too, inside a Muslim country!

Another argument they would teach us in primary school was the "evidence of evolution" such as the human appendix. Back then, science hadn't advanced enough to understand that the appendix has a function, so they would tell us that "look, this part of your body has no function". "It is a remnant of your evolution from monkeys".

Because of all this brainwashing growing up from a young age (which is used subtly and covertly in many so called "English Medium" schools), by the time I was 13 I questioned the existence of Allah. Alhamdulillah, before giving up on Islam, I decided to read the Quran and it blew the years of brainwashing down the drain in a single reading.

PS: I read the Quran in English, a language I understand. Most people miss out because they parrot the Quran in a language they don't understand. That is why most Muslims today have such little real faith.

1. The missing link is that point where life started, either as a cell or according to macro evolutionists, as a complete organism. It is true that we're not absolutely certain that humans evolved from monkeys, but the evidence of genetic similarity and transitional fossils, as well as fossils of Homo Genus point towards that direction.

2. This actually is, and also isn't an anomaly. Other species of humans did exist back in time, Neandtherals and whatnot, and through dating techniques, we know how long they survived. However what we don't know is why only the Homo Sapiens came through while the rest died out, point to note is that we did evolve in later.

3. Evolution isn't accepted by Christianity faith. But it has leeway in Islam, there are numerous books written on the subject matter.

4. These artistic impressions are based on the transitional fossils and fossils of other members of the Homo Genus.

5. I don't know what books you read, but as far as I remember, our books never called certain parts of the human body 'useless,' just simply that we haven't found their function yet.

 

[Armchair]

Yes, we share common DNA or similarity with all species, this genetically points towards a single point from which the tree of species sprouted. But, % of similarity is significant. While we share 97%-99% DNA with monkeys, it won't be the same for cats or whales. Our lowest DNA similarity is in fact with marine organisms, even then our similarity is in percentages of 10s.



1. The missing link is that point where life started, either as a cell or according to macro evolutionists, as a complete organism. It is true that we're not absolutely certain that humans evolved from monkeys, but the evidence of genetic similarity and transitional fossils, as well as fossils of Homo Genus point towards that direction.

2. This actually is, and also isn't an anomaly. Other species of humans did exist back in time, Neandtherals and whatnot, and through dating techniques, we know how long they survived. However what we don't know is why only the Homo Sapiens came through while the rest died out, point to note is that we did evolve in later.

3. Evolution isn't accepted by Christianity faith. But it has leeway in Islam, there are numerous books written on the subject matter.

4. These artistic impressions are based on the transitional fossils and fossils of other members of the Homo Genus.

5. I don't know what books you read, but as far as I remember, our books never called certain parts of the human body 'useless,' just simply that we haven't found their function yet.

Except these have been questioned. Recent findings show Neanderthals lived with and mated with homo sapians meaning their separation isn't written in stone. Similarly, the whole idea of homo erectus has been thrown into question by evolutionists.

You're believing too much of what they are speculating and claiming to be fact as fact. Genetic similarity - we have 70% of the dna of plants doesn't make us plants. It can instead show that the Creator is One.

Genetic degeneration is equally possible - as the Quran mentions, some people were turned into apes and pigs. Incidentally, the two species humans seem to share some similarities with. Is it possible for instance, that some people who were turned into apes, over time reverted back to being humans?

A million and one theories are possible. The onus of evidence is on the evolutionists to show a watertight case that humans as a species, evolved from monkeys.

This not only has not happened, other evidences have shown up that contradict it all. Including intermarriage between supposedly separate human species.

And isn't it so convenient that all these supposed species died out? Is it that homo sapians went hand hunted every possible sub species of humans in every possible remote island and left out all the apes, monkeys chimpanzee types? What a strange theory that is.

If I take the skeleton of a 4 foot tall pygmy today and a 7 foot tall german and called them different species, how different would that be from the wild claims geneticists are making based on a miniscule sample size?

By the way, I'm not interested in having a debate or trying to convince anyone. You'll have to find your own road. It took me a long time of endless heartache and research to understand what a bunch of lies they are selling and find the truth.

Here we have Muslims brainwashed by evolutionists coming and questioning Islam indirectly. This is what I've seen all my life and was also another brainwashed fellow. Alhamdulillah I critically looked at what these atheists were claiming and found may way out of it. I suggest you do your research yourself before misguiding endless others.

This will be my last post. Good luck.

 

[truthfollower]

3. Evolution isn't accepted by Christianity faith. But it has leeway in Islam, there are numerous books written on the subject matter.

what was the belief before Darwin the great about humans origin in Islam? came from adam and eve?

 

[Lincoln]

what was the belief before Darwin the great about humans origin in Islam? came from adam and eve?

Multiple interpretations exist actually if you go far back enough.

 

[truthfollower]

Genetic degeneration is equally possible - as the Quran mentions, some people were turned into apes and pigs. Incidentally, the two species humans seem to share some similarities with. Is it possible for instance, that some people who were turned into apes, over time reverted back to being humans?

A million and one theories are possible. The onus of evidence is on the evolutionists to show a watertight case that humans as a species, evolved from monkeys.

This not only has not happened, other evidences have shown up that contradict it all. Including intermarriage between supposedly separate human species.

At the end of day stories without any proof and trying to delude oneself that "Our belief system is right"

 

[Armchair]

Islam is belief with proof and evidence. So, we have to start posting proofs and evidences it seems for the atheist above, he is too lazy to do his own research (as he has already made up his mind). In the age of Google, this kind of ignorance is not worth respecting.

 

[Mujahid Memon]

At the end of day stories without any proof and trying to delude oneself that "Our belief system is right"

You are doing the same thing. There is no proof that some mindless atoms came together and formed millions of species over time. At least believing on a creator is more understandable.