Even in 1971, Awami League wasn't stating it wanted independence: Srinath Raghavan

[Roybot]

To me, recently, Bangladesh looks more and more like an Indian autonomous province. Why doesn't Bangladesh just be greatful to India for 1971 and form a union with them?

Whats makes you think India would want a union with BAngladesh

Once I came to East Pakistan, I saw "tumar amar thikana, Padma, Meghna Jumuna, Joi Bangla, Joi Bangla Joi Hind, lungi khule dhudi pin".

lmao what does that mean?

 

[banvanaxl]

Grateful my ***.
We will be subservient like Nepal and Bhutan,it will be a dream come true for Delhi.A dream nonetheless. The more India tries more situations getting out of their hand and plan.
We will jump in the bay of Bengal before an union of any kind with India happens.
Applying for citizen ship of Ethiopia is more prestigious.

And we wont let you. Geopolitics and regional powerplay aside, the common man in India absolutely detests of having to do anything with Bangladesh. We the people neither care nor are concerned with who comes to power in Bangladesh.

The idiots in Delhi are concerned because they imagine Bangladesh is going to be the 2nd Pakistan under the influence of the Jamaat and export terrorists to try and destablise India.

To those idiots I tell them, forget the very existence of Bangladesh. we dont like them and we dont want them. If they export terror they wont be the 1st country to do so. We'll sort that out just as we've sorted out our other neighbor. As long as you keep your citizens from crossing the fence we dont give a rats arse if you elect Idi Amin or 'Papa Doc' Duvalier to lead you.

Please stop being paranoid. WE DONT WANT YOU. PERIOD

 

[Cyberian]

Whats makes you think India would want a union with BAngladesh

Well, we know how much India loves Bangladesh, India fought a full scale war against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan just to liberate them (even confronting the US in the process).

I think India-Bangladesh love will do wonders for South Asia. Just close your eyes and go for it. Just think of the 147,570 sq km it will add to India's territory.

 

[Md Akmal]

Whats makes you think India would want a union with BAngladesh



lmao what does that mean?

@ Basically these slogans were given by the anti Awami Leaquers specially the non-Bengalese. In those days they were followers of some "Anjumane Islam", I could not exactly remember. So, they used to chunt these slogan, " Joi Bangla, Joi Hind, Lunge khule Dhoti Pin" means Joi Bangla Joi Hind open the lungi and wear dhoti. Generally in East Bengal the common muslim wear a lungi and dhoti is being commonly used the by the Hindus.

 

[banvanaxl]

I think India-Bangladesh love will do wonders for South Asia. Just close your eyes and go for it. Just think of the 166,000 sq km it will add to India's territory.

Yaar 60 saal lag gaya humey hamarey bhukey nango ko izzatdaar zindagi deney main. Abhi bhi kaafi kaam baaki hai aur aap keh raha hai ki pura Bangladesh ka bukhey nango ka theka apney sar uthaley ??

Tuaba Tauba.

Bangladesh aapko mubarak ho.

App phir sey east pakistan and west pakistan banakey sukh aur chain sey rahiye. Humey sabakh mil gayi hai. Humey yeh gandey pachro main mat ghaseetiye.

 

[Roybot]

Well, we know how much India loves Bangladesh, India fought a full scale war against the Islamic Republic of Pakistan just liberate them (even confronting the US in the process).

I think India-Bangladesh love will do wonders for South Asia. Just close your eyes and go for it. Just think of the 147,570 sq km it will add to India's territory.

Only Chittagong Hill Tracts is of any benefit for India, rest of Bangladesh has nothing to offer.

 

[Cyberian]

Yaar 60 saal lag gaya humey hamarey bhukey nango ko izzatdaar zindagi deney main. Abhi bhi kaafi kaam baaki hai aur aap keh raha hai ki pura Bangladesh ka bukhey nango ka theka apney sar uthaley ??

Tuaba Tauba.

Bangladesh aapko mubarak ho.

App phir sey east pakistan and west pakistan banakey sukh aur chain sey rahiye. Humey sabakh mil gayi hai. Humey yeh gandey pachro main mat ghaseetiye.

Tawba Astaghfwar.

Aap ko shahid mahloom nahi kay Pakistan main log shukar kartay hain kay Bangladesh hum say alag ho gya tha, warna wahan to har roz zalzalay aye rehtay thay.

Jo mehrbani aap nay un dinno ko ki thi ab us ka inaam bi apnay paas sambaal kar rakhiye.

 

[banvanaxl]

Tawba Astaghfwar.
Aap ko shahid mahloom nahi kay Pakistan main log shukar kartay hain kay Bangladesh hum say alag ho gya tha, warna wahan to har roz zalzalay aye rehtay thay.
Jo mehrbani aap nay un dinno ko ki thi ab us ka inaam bi apnay paas sambaal kar rakhiye.

Gila Shikwa maaf kijiye bhai jaan. Bangladesh galey main haddi ban gayi hain. Na ugla ja raha hai na nigla.

Aap to western borders pey aaram sey baithkey maza looth rahen hain. Humarey eastern borders pey hazaron key taadat main har roz bangladesh key bhukey nangey sarhad cross kar rahey hain.

Nahi bhai jaan. Aapki amanaat hum aap hi ko lauta rahen hain. Humey maaf kar dijiye aur in bangladeshio sey rahat diliaye.

 

[asad71]

And we wont let you. Geopolitics and regional powerplay aside, the common man in India absolutely detests of having to do anything with Bangladesh. We the people neither care nor are concerned with who comes to power in Bangladesh.

The idiots in Delhi are concerned because they imagine Bangladesh is going to be the 2nd Pakistan under the influence of the Jamaat and export terrorists to try and destablise India.

To those idiots I tell them, forget the very existence of Bangladesh. we dont like them and we dont want them. If they export terror they wont be the 1st country to do so. We'll sort that out just as we've sorted out our other neighbor. As long as you keep your citizens from crossing the fence we dont give a rats arse if you elect Idi Amin or 'Papa Doc' Duvalier to lead you.

Please stop being paranoid. WE DONT WANT YOU. PERIOD

Not the common man but RAW and the Brahminic hierarchy run the empire of Delhi. Politicians are mere tools in their hands.Their goal is to establish Akhand Bharat - Hindu supremacy over SA. BD is the immediate target, but their projected Akhand Bharat stretches from the Oxus to the Bali islands.

 

[banvanaxl]

Not the common man but RAW and the Brahminic hierarchy run the empire of Delhi. Politicians are mere tools in their hands.Their goal is to establish Akhand Bharat - Hindu supremacy over SA. BD is the immediate target, but their projected Akhand Bharat stretches from the Oxus to the Bali islands.

Don't know where you get your news from mate. .. if you are talking about fringe groups like rss and vhp you are deluded.. If you imagine they are running the government .. then buddy Al Qaeda's brother Jamaat is running yours.

Anyway the point remains we don't want anything to do with Bangladesh. I say again we don't give a rats arse if you launched a space craft to alpha centauri or suicide bombed each other to oblivion. Stop obsessing about India and for ****s sake stop your people from making holes in our border fences and jumping over.

Bharat Saarc ka dharamshala nahi hai .. jissey man kiya muh uthaye chaley aaye.

 

[kalu_miah]

cross posted from 1971 sticky thread:

Anthony Mascarenhas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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This Mascarenhas guy does not seem neutral and unbiased, mainly because he was a friend who knew Mujib to some extent and it shows from the way he tries to sugarcoat Mujib's many faults in his book. Also, his background could be another factor, he was a Christian of Goa origin with typical biased ethnocentric views most of us South Asians suffer from.

But there is some valuable info in his book that gets us closer to solving one of the puzzles I had for long. Was Mujib a traitor, did he commit treason, was he in touch with RAW?

I think people like Tajuddin, Tofael Ahmed and others in Awami League were. And if such close associates of Mujib were in touch with RAW then it was more than likely that Mujib knew about these connections, but was probably careful about not having any direct contact himself.

The other explanation is that Mujib was a poker player at professional level, so much so that he could make a living out of it, if he wanted to. So he was used to high stakes gambling. What he did in 1971 with Yahya Khan and Bhutto, the negotiation, and also whipping up of East Pakistanis into a frenzy, while allowing his underlings to be in connection with RAW, was geared towards getting maximum political windfall for the Eastern wing and himself. He was gambling with the future of entire people of Pakistan. Yahya Khan and Bhutto did give into most of his demands and the remaining points seemed to them to be unreasonable on Mujib's part, which reinforced their impression that Mujib was actually working with India to break Pakistan. By then Indian agents have already started killing Bihari's.

Even if I do not believe Mujib was a traitor in a strict legal sense as there is still no direct evidence, from circumstantial evidence, it is sufficiently clear that he did betray entire people of Pakistan of both wings and opened up a door for India to fulfill their dream of breaking Pakistan, by instigating a civil war with the killing of Bihari's using their agents. So I would say that Mujib can be blamed for the 1971 war and the death and destruction in this war, much more so than we can blame the planners of Operation Searchlight. I come to this updated view after going through some books in a website:
অধ্যায় ৩: ষড়যন্ত্রের পটভূমি
Patriot-Traitor Question
অধ্যায় ৯: ভারতীয় গুপ্তচরসংস্থা ‌র’এবং মার্কিনী সিআইয়ের ভূমিকা

 

[scorpionx]

"tumar amar thikana, Padma, Meghna Jumuna, Joi Bangla, Joi Bangla Joi Hind, lungi khule dhudi pin".

I have seen every variety of comments in this section but honestly speaking this one is a killer gem.

 

[UKBengali]

Don't know where you get your news from mate. .. if you are talking about fringe groups like rss and vhp you are deluded.. If you imagine they are running the government .. then buddy Al Qaeda's brother Jamaat is running yours.

Anyway the point remains we don't want anything to do with Bangladesh. I say again we don't give a rats arse if you launched a space craft to alpha centauri or suicide bombed each other to oblivion. Stop obsessing about India and for ****s sake stop your people from making holes in our border fences and jumping over.

Bharat Saarc ka dharamshala nahi hai .. jissey man kiya muh uthaye chaley aaye.

Yes and that is why so many Indian posters on pdf are arch supporters of Awami League and you guys constantly post on BD forum

You Indians are obsessed with BD as an economically and military strong BD would have many Indians wondering why bother with this massive multi-ethnic experiment that has not delivered the goods.

 

[banvanaxl]

Yes and that is why so many Indian posters on pdf are arch supporters of Awami League and you guys constantly post on BD forum
You Indians are obsessed with BD as an economically and military strong BD would have many Indians wondering why bother with this massive multi-ethnic experiment that has not delivered the goods.

Can't speak for others. Can only speak for myself. I'm seriously worried and concerned. Refer back to my post.

Anyway the point remains we don't want anything to do with Bangladesh. I say again we don't give a rats arse if you launched a space craft to alpha centauri or suicide bombed each other to oblivion.

Become the next supa powa or go into oblivion for all I care but I AM concerned about the mass influx of illegal bangladeshis we have to deal with every year. Its growing to cancerous proportions. The demographical makeup of Assam has entirely changed thanks to the refugees crossing the border every week.

Oh and btw this

massive multi-ethnic experiment

has already delivered the goods, a hundred times over. Quit the rhetoric and come back with solid comparative figures.
This is not your kindergarten anymore. You cant draw a stick figure and call it a masterpiece and get your momma to say its the best painting in the whole wide world.

 

[jaunty]

This Mascarenhas guy does not seem neutral and unbiased,

Yeah only jamati facebook pages like Basherkella are the beacon of truth. Anything that doesn't suit your propaganda is unreliable.