Even if PML-N gives 100 NA seats to PTI for free, PTI can't form a gov't

[WishLivePak]

There is much talk about rigging in all over Pakistan but KPK (where PTI won).

Anyway, with a little math, I've come to conclusion that PTI can't form central gov't despite PMLn giving free 100 seats.

On this page: National Assembly of Pakistan we see following parties seats allocation.

PML-N - 189 seats
PPP - 46 seats
MQM - 24 seats
JUI-F - 13 seats


Together they make up 272 seats in NA. One needs 172 seats to attain majority in the NA. The reason I include the 5 parties is because of the fight between PTI and them during election 2013. Imran didn't want to take oath from Zardari, they pinned murder charges on MQM, JUI-F being diesel.

So if PML-N decided to give PTI 100 seats, PTI will have in total 133 seats in NA. They still cannot form a gov't. JI can offer 4, which is 137. This makes them still short of 172, which is 35 seats short. Now we know that the said parties will work together to stop PTI from forming gov't, which means free ministries and whatnot. These parties would never want PTI forming the central gov't.


So yes, we don't need new elections. Imran knows that even if he gets the 4 seats that he always complains about is given to him, he can't make a dent to PML-N.

I must also add that even if some miracle happens and PTI forms a gov't, they will remain relatively powerless. The senate has majority made up of PPP, PML-N and so forth. This means they will have to make compromises like current PML does, such as giving JUI-F ministries or catering to PPP demands (dropping corruption charges or swiss banks etc).

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

This is not only about PTI. They stole seats from every party. PMLN will become tiny party even less 25 seats if there is proper free & fair investigation, but no hope from Noora courts. Army should takeover and kick out PMLN and then see how many people comes on road? Last time not even a dozen. They comes thrgh rigging, and they are master of it.

 

[WishLivePak]

This is not only about PTI. They stole seats from every party. PMLN will become tiny party even less 25 seats if there is proper free & fair investigation, but no hope from Noora courts. Army should takeover and kick out PMLN and then see how many people comes on road? Last time not even a dozen. They comes thrgh rigging, and they are master of it.

How do you know PMLn won 25 seats? Flying batay.

I just said 100 seats from PMLn to give an "idea." PTI is in no position to make gov't. You can say 75 from pml, 10 from pp, 10 from mqm or whatnot. Bottomline is, Imran Khan is fooling the nation.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

How do you know PMLn won 25 seats? Flying batay.

Less rigged election 1999, PMLN have even less than 25 seats .
Last time even PPP formed government with 68-70 seats and after election few independent candidates, , & then minority seats.
According to you PTI wins 100 seats, then they will get more reserved seats fr woman , minorities & others. 135 is enough to form government. (Not included allies & independent candidates)

 

[arushbhai]

2 major reasons why PMLN won

1) Shahbaz sharif did outstanding work in Punjab and used media to his benefit. No one should have any doubt as to what he did. He developed the whole province, every city and every tehsil. He was aggressive and over productive. His team would stay up all night to prepare for a briefing at 6 in the morning, wheresa Shahbaz sharif would sleep for hardly 6 hours max.

2) People around Pakistan were sick and tired of Zardari and his politics. Zardari has never managed to gain the reputable status that an average politician in pak has. Under his government, our country went almost bankrupt and everyone from the elites to the poorest of the poor were effected. People looked at punjab and wondered what would happen if we give PMLN a chance.

PTI never had a chance. People in punjab elected PMLN which was the most deserving party at that time. Simple as that. Shahbaz sharif alone gets the credit of PMLN victory.

 

[Norwegian]

Army should takeover and kick out PMLN and then see how many people comes on road? Last time not even a dozen. They comes thrgh rigging, and they are master of it.

Why are you asking for the establishment to intervene? They tried it in 1999 with disastrous results when same old tried and tested morons came back after 2008 elections. Nothing changed revolutionary in Pakistan during 8 years of Musharraf, except maybe freedom of media. Was it worth it?

How do you know PMLn won 25 seats? Flying batay.

How do you know they won 189 seats? Why are you so afraid of vote audit?

I just said 100 seats from PMLn to give an "idea." PTI is in no position to make gov't. You can say 75 from pml, 10 from pp, 10 from mqm or whatnot. Bottomline is, Imran Khan is fooling the nation.

What a bunch of trollish attitude! If vote-audit in every constituency took place, PTI or some other party would win in most of them as is the case with all constituencies that were opened so far.

 

[arushbhai]

Less rigged election 1999, PMLN have even less than 25 seats .
Last time even PPP formed government with 68-70 seats and after election few lotas, , ICs & then minority seats.

Meri jaan, dont forget how imran khan lost two of his own seats, one from mianwali and one from peshawar during by elections.

 

[Norwegian]

1) Shahbaz sharif did outstanding work in Punjab and used media to his benefit. No one should have any doubt as to what he did. He developed the whole province, every city and every tehsil. He was aggressive and over productive. His team would stay up all night to prepare for a briefing at 6 in the morning, wheresa Shahbaz sharif would sleep for hardly 6 hours max.

LOL. What a bunch of Nooni bullcrap! You can read all about this so-called performance in Punjab by Qatil-e-Ala here:
Punjab’s economic performance – The Express Tribune

2) People around Pakistan were sick and tired of Zardari and his politics. Zardari has never managed to gain the reputable status that an average politician in pak has. Under his government, our country went almost bankrupt and everyone from the elites to the poorest of the poor were effected. People looked at punjab and wondered what would happen if we give PMLN a chance.

Wasn't PMLN in Punjab already with its worse economic growth compared to other provinces?
Punjab’s economic performance – The Express Tribune

Yet people voted for them? Funny!

PTI never had a chance. People in punjab elected PMLN which was the most deserving party at that time. Simple as that. Shahbaz sharif alone gets the credit of PMLN victory.

Hahaha. Nooni troll!

Meri jaan, dont forget how imran khan lost two of his own seats, one from mianwali and one from peshawar during by elections.

That's because he does not rig unlike Noonis

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Meri jaan, dont forget how imran khan lost two of his own seats, one from mianwali and one from peshawar during by elections.

Because people lost hope in Election system. Only 18% Turnover .... Nation have no hope in this system.

 

[Norwegian]

Because people lost hope in Election system. Only 18% Turnover .... Nation have no hope in this system.

18 % turnover? Proof?

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

18 % turnover? Proof?

Open the Election commission site and see NA1 turnover.
By the way, look the name Gul badshah.
Badshah? lol

 

[Norwegian]

Open the Election commission site and see NA1 turnover.

Just checked. Hahaha Democracy is a failed political system when participation in it is voluntary but its consequences are mandatory

 

[WishLivePak]

Less rigged election 1999, PMLN have even less than 25 seats .
Last time even PPP formed government with 68-70 seats and after election few independent candidates, , & then minority seats.
According to you PTI wins 100 seats, then they will get more reserved seats fr woman , minorities & others. 135 is enough to form government. (Not included allies & independent candidates)

You're one fooled person.

172 for majority includes minorities. Do your homework before you post. The 100 seats include minorities hence.

Also PMLn has won over 7 seats in by elections so far. So to say their mandate is limited to 25 seats is pure and utter fantasy. You're even less realistic than your khan

 

[WishLivePak]

Because people lost hope in Election system. Only 18% Turnover .... Nation have no hope in this system.

Lol by election always have less turn over.

Like I said, you're one fooled person. You, like your khan, will never accept defeat. Only medicine can help to stop living in dillusion.

If people lost interest in by election (common), why did PTI field a candidate? Or attend rigged parliament?

 

[WishLivePak]

2 major reasons why PMLN won

1) Shahbaz sharif did outstanding work in Punjab and used media to his benefit. No one should have any doubt as to what he did. He developed the whole province, every city and every tehsil. He was aggressive and over productive. His team would stay up all night to prepare for a briefing at 6 in the morning, wheresa Shahbaz sharif would sleep for hardly 6 hours max.

2) People around Pakistan were sick and tired of Zardari and his politics. Zardari has never managed to gain the reputable status that an average politician in pak has. Under his government, our country went almost bankrupt and everyone from the elites to the poorest of the poor were effected. People looked at punjab and wondered what would happen if we give PMLN a chance.

PTI never had a chance. People in punjab elected PMLN which was the most deserving party at that time. Simple as that. Shahbaz sharif alone gets the credit of PMLN victory.

I'm saying even if PTI had a chance and gets 133 seats in NA, they can't form govt. this is pure fact.