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Europe must brake mounting nuclear arms race: Germany

Do you think in an actual Nuclear war... that everyside will send their entire stockpile?
Do you think US and RU with 14k Nuclear warheads combined "Could" Last till the last warhead?

FEw Nuclear strikes and it's over for both sides... and few dozens and it's the End for all of us...

If a single Nuclear strike is made how is it possible to tell it was USA or Europe the Blame will come on the continent that launched the strikes. Now Pakistan has it's own Nukes what will be the point of having Chinese Nukes in our land We have enough nukes our self. Same goes for Europe they have enough Nukes what is the point of having US nukes in Europe.
 
US nukes in Europe is an insurance policy for USA not Europe. This ensures the Nuclear war stay in Europe because if the Nuke is fired on RU from Europe there is no way to tell that it was US or EU nuke. RU will only attack the Europe because the Nuke was launched from Europe.
It doesn't matter...using only one will put in action a domino effect...
 
It doesn't matter...using only one will put in action a domino effect...

Agreed so why then have US nukes in Europe? French are enough to damage RU. are 300 nukes of France enough and 215 of UK enough?
 
Agreed so why then have US nukes in Europe? French are enough to damage RU. are 300 nukes of France enough and 215 of UK enough?
ofc they are enough... You don't need that much to end it...
This nuclear stockpile were made around the cold war... and now they have it...so they keep it...
 
ofc they are enough... You don't need that much to end it...
Those nuclear warheads were made around the cold war... and now they have it...so they keep it...
So the end statement would be that cold war has not ended from USA and European side?
 
unliek Europe Russia has nuclear tunnels and bunkers even for some for the civilians. dead hand nuke activation.
 
US nukes and US troops should leave Europe. Would solve a lot of problems.
 
Agreed so why then have US nukes in Europe? French are enough to damage RU. are 300 nukes of France enough and 215 of UK enough?

The UK and France have enough nuclear weapons to bring Russia with them in their fall.
 
Wrong. With the same kind of arguments you can justify a bank robber. If only one has the weapon, he has full power over others. We need as much nuclear weapons in Europe as are needed to completly destroy Russia if needed. Only that guarantees peace. Evrything else would be like making Europe hostage.


The only thing Russian nukes are good for is to counter balance USA.

Other than that it's a real threat to everyone, just a matter of time before China and India challenges Russia for land.

Russia has too much land, and others will want some of that land in the future.

The Germans are a bit delusional thinking the nuclear powers are going to disarm their nuclear weapons. They are the last thing ensuring a country's sovereignty (and survival) + avoid big powers from slaughtering each others. They are not called deterrent for nothing.

I agree, they might "disarm" in public but keep making more in secret.

Europe is hostage of US. The only true garantee for Europe is to have it's own nuclear weapons, not US one - that's what I am talking about. US does not care how many Europeans will die, because US - is not Europe and never will be, it is geograthy.


Yes EU should have it's own nukes.

USA today might seem ok, but what if some lunatic comes to power in the US like hitler?

Then EU must do as US tells them to.

It's always good with multiple super powers balancing eachother.

Just wish we didn't have nukes as it will be the end of the planet.

Just look at Turkey US relations, we are supposed to be allies. Turkey helped the US in Afghanistan, Bosnia, Korean war and we gave them access to bases, host their radar and host US nukes in Turkey.

What did we get from this ally in return?

CIA doing multiple coups or coup attempts in Turkey and most recently arming our terrorist enemy in North Syria.

Who needs enemies when you have friends like the US?

Already US has showed it can't be trusted as an ally.

We as Turkey did our part, we help the US we even died in their wars. In return they attack us indirectly using terrorists and CIA.

Russia has been a good friend through all of this, so perhaps Russia is changing?

If a single Nuclear strike is made how is it possible to tell it was USA or Europe the Blame will come on the continent that launched the strikes. Now Pakistan has it's own Nukes what will be the point of having Chinese Nukes in our land We have enough nukes our self. Same goes for Europe they have enough Nukes what is the point of having US nukes in Europe.


They will probably launch nukes from Turkey near the Bulgarian border and blame the EU for it haha

unliek Europe Russia has nuclear tunnels and bunkers even for some for the civilians. dead hand nuke activation.

Richer European countries have civilian nuclear bunkers too.

Europe don't give to fcuks about population. Russia does have a civilian population bunker.

maybe Europe does have it but i never searched on it.

You got it all twisted.

Europe cares more for the safety of it's citizens than other countries.

They invest a lot in war sirens and underground bunkers, they even test these on a regular basis.

Just google "nuclear bunker in europe"...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...tack-nato-baltic-ukraine-norway-a7642686.html

https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/185...rich-in-case-of-nuclear-war-opens-in-germany/

https://www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/793918/uk-nuclear-bunkers-location
 
That is the question I am asking Why US nukes then?
The majority of American nukes are tactical nukes, meaning they have a much smaller warhead and are intended to use in an actual battlefield. Damage created by such waepons is limited (of course still devestating).

The French and the British have enough strategical nukes (the big ones) to wipe out any threat, however they don't have enough tactical ones compared to Russia. American nukes sets off that disadvantage, that's why they are in Europe.
 
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