EU dismisses help for Turkey collapsing economy

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

A small note: In Turkey, there are 450 official church. Except from these the number of missionary houses is expressed in thousands.But , even with the most exaggerated estimates, the population rates are at most 1%.

All of the historic churches are restored by the state and presented to the service of our Christian community. Thousands of non-Muslim clergy in our country are at the head of their congregations.

The reduction of the subject to the level of freedom of religion and conscience by the US authorities is a very great lowliness. Also its explain of US manipulation effort for saving official agent which has deep roots with PKK and Feto. And of course an investment in election.

I have actually have run into Turks who have been deceived by Protestant Christian organizations and brought here for work exchange, hidden as a front for radical Christian trying to convert Turks to use against Turkey. This kind of thing needs to end.

What reason is there for Protestant and Catholic churches in Turkey? Orthodox Greek and Armenian are native to the region, but these Christians are not.

Turkey needs to cut out these radical evangelical groups. Ban preaching of Christianity in Turkey, except in churches and designated areas. These converted citizens are being used to join FETO and PKK against Turkish interests.

Recently, I have also seen many Syrian and Afghan refugees being brought to US and forced to live in churches where they are being preached to, day and night. Many Afghan refugees have converted to Christianity for jobs and citizenship, while Syrians are more resistant.

@dBSPL Gread DP, btw.

 

[dBSPL]

I have actually have run into Turks who have been deceived by Protestant Christian organizations and brought here for work exchange, hidden as a front for radical Christian trying to convert Turks to use against Turkey. This kind of thing needs to end.

What reason is there for Protestant and Catholic churches in Turkey? Orthodox Greek and Armenian are native to the region, but these Christians are not.

Turkey needs to cut out these radical evangelical groups. Ban preaching of Christianity in Turkey, except in churches and designated areas. These converted citizens are being used to join FETO and PKK against Turkish interests.

Recently, I have also seen many Syrian and Afghan refugees being brought to US and forced to live in churches where they are being preached to, day and night. Many Afghan refugees have converted to Christianity for jobs and citizenship, while Syrians are more resistant.

@dBSPL Gread DP, btw.

Bro, the common feature of all the great civilizations that the Turks set up to this day is that they do not interfere with the local cultures and beliefs of people unless they threaten the state. Because this is an integral part of Turkish culture. If we lose our tolerance, we lose the purpose of existence of the Turkish state.

Foreign agents or subcontractor of terrorist organizations may be in a cleric's mask, may be a lecturer, or can be a merchant ... It is important that this is not the struggle with a religion or a culture. The task of the state must be to separate rotten apples from others. Not to throw away all the apples.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Bro, the common feature of all the great civilizations that the Turks set up to this day is that they do not interfere with the local cultures and beliefs of people unless they threaten the state. Because this is an integral part of Turkish culture. If we lose our tolerance, we lose the purpose of existence of the Turkish state.

Foreign agents or subcontractor of terrorist organizations may be in a cleric's mask, may be a lecturer, or can be a merchant ... It is important that this is not the struggle with a religion or a culture. The task of the state must be to separate rotten apples from others. Not to throw away all the apples.

Yes, brother. Turkey will have to find its own internal balance of permissiveness and restrictions.

I am just showing you the Pakistani model, which is based on the Hanafi Fiqh. We also had similar problems related to foreign preachers and conversion of locals creating centers of anarchy against our state. We clamped down on them hard, and now no one can even utter one word against our religion.

People can practice and do as they like in their places of worship, as long as they don't impact the stability of the state or promote terrorism.

 

[MastanKhan]

We have sent documents to the US,proving Brunson and his wife as CIA operatives,working with the PKK and Gülen Network against my country,Trump is only trying to save face.
What i dont get is,why my government doesnt show the documents to the international media.
What would we care for a real pastor,he would never have been arrested(we are not such people,live and let live).

Hi,

My brother---I have been talking about this on this forum for the last 13 years---.

If you do not know how to talk to the americans---they would destroy you---just like they went against pakistan---.

Go to the american media---talk nice talk smooth---.

Listen to the israelis---look at the appearance of their spokesperson---. Just looks and talks like an american---.

 

[-SINAN-]

Some facts

1) Turkey’s economy is not collapsing.
2) Turkey’s economy is not going to collapse.
3) Turkey didn’t asked help from EU.
4) This German guy doesn’t represent EU.
5) This thread has been created by a racist gay Italian whom has been perma banned from the forum.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Go to the american media---talk nice talk smooth---.

American media is very toxic against Muslims in general. They already make up their mind before you even speak. UN is more useful for Turkey. Convince the non-Western countries and gain some new allies.

 

[GHALIB]

I have actually have run into Turks who have been deceived by Protestant Christian organizations and brought here for work exchange, hidden as a front for radical Christian trying to convert Turks to use against Turkey. This kind of thing needs to end.

What reason is there for Protestant and Catholic churches in Turkey? Orthodox Greek and Armenian are native to the region, but these Christians are not.

Turkey needs to cut out these radical evangelical groups. Ban preaching of Christianity in Turkey, except in churches and designated areas. These converted citizens are being used to join FETO and PKK against Turkish interests.

Recently, I have also seen many Syrian and Afghan refugees being brought to US and forced to live in churches where they are being preached to, day and night. Many Afghan refugees have converted to Christianity for jobs and citizenship, while Syrians are more resistant.

@dBSPL Gread DP, btw.

where in america did you see afghans and turkish citizens forced to live or kept in churches to convert ? i would like to see , because america is such a free country that they allow to preach and convert to any religion.

 

[Avicenna]

American media is very toxic against Muslims in general. They already make up their mind before you even speak. UN is more useful for Turkey. Convince the non-Western countries and gain some new allies.

I agree with @MastanKhan. Look at the Israelis. Clearly they care about what the American public thinks.

Turkey needs to improve its image with the American people. It can only help.

I worry though that tact and subtlety will be lost on Ergodan.

 

[rajvoSa]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1029247622912065537

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I agree with @MastanKhan. Look at the Israelis. Clearly they care about what the American public thinks.

Turkey needs to improve its image with the American people. It can only help.

I worry though that tact and subtlety will be lost on Ergodan.

Even now with all the favors KSA has given US. US public blames KSA for everything, even 9/11.

We have to accept that US government and media is biased against Muslims and Muslim governments.

They will only take notice when others join us and we become powerful on our own. Take for example China and Russia.

Turkey is hated because it is a strong Muslim country with a robust economy and political influence.

 

[Yaseen1]

turkey is much better than many european countries like romania,greece ,bulgaria and cyprus where people are unable to earn enough to bear basic neecessities

 

[Tiberius]

That's exactly what a lot of people are saying about america. It will become the next Brazil.

By the way, the americans had no right to murder millions of innocent Iraqi Men, Women, Children and Old people. What threat did they pose to the americans? That is PURE genocide. Was that not wrong?

Might makes right. The oldest principle in history.

Iraqi men had the chance to develop space shuttles, aircrafts and an advanced society. They chose to be a medival stoneage shithole. With that, they chose their fate. I have no respect for backwardness and i dont have mercy with weak cultures.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I have no respect for backwardness and i dont have mercy with weak cultures.

Except for Italy.

 

[royalharris]

I have actually have run into Turks who have been deceived by Protestant Christian organizations and brought here for work exchange, hidden as a front for radical Christian trying to convert Turks to use against Turkey. This kind of thing needs to end.

What reason is there for Protestant and Catholic churches in Turkey? Orthodox Greek and Armenian are native to the region, but these Christians are not.

Turkey needs to cut out these radical evangelical groups. Ban preaching of Christianity in Turkey, except in churches and designated areas. These converted citizens are being used to join FETO and PKK against Turkish interests.

Recently, I have also seen many Syrian and Afghan refugees being brought to US and forced to live in churches where they are being preached to, day and night. Many Afghan refugees have converted to Christianity for jobs and citizenship, while Syrians are more resistant.

@dBSPL Gread DP, btw.

Very radical idea

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Very radical idea

It’s the law in Pakistan.