EU, Canada Slap Sanctions on Myanmar Military Officials Over Rohingya Crisis

[rott]

Wtf everyone fighting with everyone

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

The massacre of Hindus by ARSA included in the local investigation and reported by Amnesty International says it all. Especially in a state like Rakhine, where there is so little Hindus to even have any significant political impact. Yet they were killed in droves. This clearly wasn't the " oppressed killing the oppressor" . This was brutal intolerance. And when these people want to be included as ethnics, of course will be a backlash from locals. Especially those affected. Hell, they don't even care about their own people. Just a few days ago it was reported that a leader in one of the camps was assassinated because of his criticism of ARSA. The first step is to eradicate these extremists and then work our way up to improving living standards for everyone in rakhine(which the gov is spending more money on), including local ethnics(which, by the way, includes predominantly Muslim groups like Kaman). We have to ignore people using this case to score political points and settle this issue once and for all for peace in the area.

Listen you genocide supporting nazi faggot, dont use militants killing to justify burmese state genocide of rohingyas. burmese faggots are doing it since their independence...

 

[Karatay]

Listen you genocide supporting nazi faggot, dont use militants killing to justify burmese state genocide of rohingyas. burmese faggots are doing it since their independence...

Is this the language they teach you in school? If so that's disappointing... I'd rather spend my time on something more meaningful. Go back to school. If you want people to take you seriously that is.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

lol i'm not bamar.
so ask any arakanese aka rakhine 'is there an ethnic so called rohinhya''. they will answer by kicking ur ***.

Allow some journalist to ask!

lol there is no genocide.

Hitler agrees with you.

if it's called genocide because of fleeing people and killing a few people

You are a true nazi. You studied Mein Kampf well.

US and Saudi are also commiting crime against humanity

We know but cant prove it.

check the yeman war zone. they destroyed the whole country completely and killed millions.

You just called it a war.

u sympathy has double standard.

Rohingyas are our first priority.

even Myanmar arrested and imprisoned the people who killed 10 people ( who come to attack the rakhine village )

LOL at your eyewashing method.

but how about US troops who bombed the hospital in yemen.

They will take alot of Yemenis as American citizen.

of couse. that's why we can think. but monkeys from bongodesh cant think.

LOL, Bangladesh aren't committing any genocide and Bengalis are not supporting any like burma and burmese. No offensive words applies to us naturally.

But, how could you know you a monkey burmese from monkey land burma.

Is this the language they teach you in school? If so that's disappointing... I'd rather spend my time on something more meaningful. Go back to school. If you want people to take you seriously that is.

I didn't received nazi education like you. And, no respect for genocide supporting faggots like you.

I hope you and your family suffer the same pain as rohingyas...

 

[A.A. Khan]

What about the Myanmar parliament and its civilian leaders? What about Myanmar business leaders? What about wholesome sanctions by ASEAN against Myanmar? Bangladeshi dalaals can only gather peanuts like this

 

[Aung Zaya]

Allow some journalist to ask!

are u blind ? there are already thousands time of being taken the journalists to ask.

Hitler agrees with you

who care since US who nuke 2 Japanese cities , destroyed million of lives and made invasion other countries with fake accusation led that team.Hitler was a war criminal coz he lost the war. If he win at the end , US president Truman who ordered to nuke japan would be war criminal.

You are a true nazi. You studied Mein Kampf well.

lol we have every right to deny what we havent done.

We know but cant prove it.

cant prove or being neglected ?

You just called it a war.

of course.!! we also made an operation against the thousand of extremists or terrorists who attacked police camps and HQ. even last 2months ago , these terrorists ambushed a military convoy with IED. that's what we called war.

Rohingyas are our first priority.

sure. for us , our rakhine ethnic is our first priority. so-called rohingya need to be checked under National Verification System so that terrorists can be filtered easily.

LOL at your eyewashing method

lol something wrong that the ones who committed the crimes are sentenced and imprisoned. ? at least it can show we are not biased organization like UN who completely neglected the local ethnic and hindu victims in that case.

They will take alot of Yemenis as American citizen.

during Trump's regime ?

But, how could you know you a monkey burmese from monkey land burma.

Lol take this banana and shuu shuu...!! pity monkey from bongodesh. LOL

no respect for genocide supporting faggots like you.

who care ur respect ..!! u moron.. we want just a healthy discussion.. but being forced , we can also make a same response like u. it's hard to understand for a monkey ?

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

are u blind ? there are already thousands time of being taken the journalists to ask.

So present us some...

who care since US who nuke 2 Japanese cities , destroyed million of lives and made invasion other countries with fake accusation led that team.Hitler was a war criminal coz he lost the war. If he win at the end , US president Truman who ordered to nuke japan would be war criminal.

Imperial Japan was well documented savage. You can ask China! So nukeing them was a good thing. Now look how civilized they are. You burmese needs something like that too...

lol we have every right to deny what we havent done.

Who gave you that ”right” to deny without proves?

cant prove or being neglected ?

You are free to volunteer.

of course.!! we also made an operation against the thousand of extremists or terrorists who attacked police camps and HQ. even last 2months ago , these terrorists ambushed a military convoy with IED. that's what we called war.

Thats what you say. But, cant prove. And, only you call it as war.

sure. for us , our rakhine ethnic is our first priority. so-called rohingya need to be checked under National Verification System so that terrorists can be filtered easily.

LOL...

lol something wrong that the ones who committed the crimes are sentenced and imprisoned. ? at least it can show we are not biased organization like UN who completely neglected the local ethnic and hindu victims in that case.

ha ha ha, your armymens committed genocide and you gave them some prison time after they were caught on camera doing so. Thats pure eyewash.

during Trump's regime ?

As we speak...

Lol take this banana and shuu shuu...!! pity monkey from bongodesh. LOL

who care ur respect ..!! u moron.. we want just a healthy discussion.. but being forced , we can also make a same response like u. it's hard to understand for a monkey ?

Last time I checked it was burma and burmese were fighting like monkeys since its independence. But, how could you understand these since you are a mankey too.

Nazis and monkeys dont care for others respect for sure. And, you guys are both.

 

[Aung Zaya]

So present us some...

Imperial Japan was well documented savage. You can ask China! So nukeing them was a good thing. Now look how civilized they are. You burmese needs something like that too...

oh. yes. US and western forces were so innocent at the time. history is written by the conqueror.

Who gave you that ”right” to deny without proves?

no one also have right to deny our right.

You are free to volunteer.

they are also ur muslim brothers. not ? only rohingya ? oh. yes i forget that rohingya are technically bangali. so u may love them more.

Thats what you say. But, cant prove. And, only you call it as war

why not ?

ha ha ha, your armymens committed genocide and you gave them some prison time after they were caught on camera doing so. Thats pure eyewash.

lol we already declared that if any one have proof of our army troops committing crimes , we will sentence them according to our law.it's not eye wash.but taking responsibility.

As we speak...

u must be kidding me. lol

Last time I checked it was burma and burmese were fighting like monkeys since its independence. But, how could you understand these since you are a mankey too.

Nazis and monkeys dont care for others respect for sure. And, you guys are both.

lol as we already said, it's only for sake of healthy discussion. if u dont want it. it's ok. just expect the same response.
and we need respect from others. we dont need just from u monkey. u are nothing even in this forum. but just a monkey clown.so getting respect from u or not is nothing for us.

 

[Bilal9]

ethnic bengalis Rohingya

You are misinformed Sir and you keep repeating it again and again.

Rohingyas aren't Bengali.

They have their own distinct culture, language and traditions. They may look similar but that is where it ends. Legally they are Burmese citizens by birth and although Burma denies them citizenship, they are still citizens of Burma according to International law.

Burma can flout international law - but then that makes the country an international pariah when it comes to lack of investments and sanctions.

Rohingya have lived in Arakan for hundreds and hundreds of years, just like the Rakhine.

If the Tatmadaw tries to re-write history and equate Rohingyas as Kalar and Bengalis, it doesn't change the facts about Rohingyas actually being citizens of Burma on the ground and in reality. This is textbook ethnic cleansing as the UN senior officials already concluded and is highly illegal according to International law. A few PDF folks arguing about it does not make any difference at all.

The massacre of Hindus by ARSA included in the local investigation and reported by Amnesty International says it all. Especially in a state like Rakhine, where there is so little Hindus to even have any significant political impact. Yet they were killed in droves. This clearly wasn't the " oppressed killing the oppressor" . This was brutal intolerance. And when these people want to be included as ethnics, of course will be a backlash from locals. Especially those affected. Hell, they don't even care about their own people. Just a few days ago it was reported that a leader in one of the camps was assassinated because of his criticism of ARSA. The first step is to eradicate these extremists and then work our way up to improving living standards for everyone in rakhine(which the gov is spending more money on), including local ethnics(which, by the way, includes predominantly Muslim groups like Kaman). We have to ignore people using this case to score political points and settle this issue once and for all for peace in the area.

Savage Bamars and Rakhine have expelled Indian Hindus before WWII during the anti-Indian riots of the 1930 to 1938 period - so showing sympathy to Hindus is pointless. The point is that a large portion of the population in Burma are convinced over their racial superiority over Indians and are essentially xenophobic uneducated savages incompatible with free-world values and do not belong to it. They should not be allowed to be part of free-world trading community either.

Read the following by an Indian writer:

Muslims in Myanmar

Muslims in Myanmar have a history of over a thousand years. Islam came with Mughal invaders from India and Sultan Suleiman of Yunnan. Anti-Muslim sentiments among Burmese Buddhists have their roots in the persecutions and forced conversions carried out among Buddhists during the Mughal rule. Though Buddhists consider Muslims as a single entity, there are distinct Muslim communities with their own ethnic linkages and cultural history. The distinct groups include descendants of Burmese converts to Islam, Muslims of Indian descent who have settled in Myanmar, Muslims who had migrated from East Bengal (now Bangladesh), Zarbari Muslims who are children of South Asian Muslim fathers and Burmese mothers, Panthay Muslims of Hui Chinese origin fromYunnan settled in border areas of Myanmar and Rohingya Muslims inhabiting Rakhine state bordering Bangladesh.

During the British colonial rule in the first half of 20th century, anti-Indian sentiments started rising among local people when Indians started dominating business and bureaucracy, Chettiar money lenders seized control of lands, and cheap Indian labour deprived the ordinary Burmese opportunities to earn a living.

In that period, nearly half the Indians in Myanmar were Muslims. As a result of this, anti-Indian sentiments had anti-Muslim sentiment as an inevitable part. So when anti-Indian riots broke out in Yangon in 1930 killing hundreds of Indians, Muslims also suffered. On the other hand, Muslims were also seen as symbols of British colonial rule; according to historians the nationalist-inspired anti-Muslim riot of 1938 was actually against the British rulers.

In the run up to independence, the Burma Muslim Congress (BMC), the nodal organization of Burmese Muslims, fully supported General Aung San-led Anti-Fascist Peoples’ Freedom Party’s (AFPFL) national struggle. Though Muslim leaders were included in the post-independence cabinet, a few months later Prime Minister U Nu’s attitude towards Muslims underwent a change. The BMC was asked to leave the AFPFL. Subsequently when U Nu made Buddhism the state religion, it was much against the wishes of Muslims and other ethnic and religious minority communities. Restrictions were imposed on Halal slaughtering of cattle.

When General Ne Win seized power the attitude towards Muslims further hardened. He expelled Muslims from the army. Islamist violence perpetrated in Indonesia and their anti-Buddhist actions like the destruction of Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan is also said to have touched off anti-Muslim violence in Myanmar.

As anti-Muslim sentiments among sections of population have a long history in Myanmar, it remains a potential destabilizing force of democracy. This is yet another issue that could provide a level of legitimacy for the army to take charge of the situation reminiscent of its foray to capture power in 1962.

What do the riots indicate?

Both the anti-Rohingya violence and anti-Muslim riots in Meikhtila were triggered by minor incidents involving individuals from the two communities. Such incidents were quickly exploited by fringe elements to whip up anti-Muslim sentiments among the Buddhist majority resulting in well organized acts of violence.

In Rakhine and Meikhtila Buddhist mobs led by some monks spearheaded the anti-Muslims violence. The destruction was systematic and well planned. As violence spread quickly in different regions, a level of networking and coordination probably exists between Buddhist fringe elements in different parts of the country.

In the case of Rohingya violence, a number of sporadic incidents preceded the outburst of violence. These incidents were ignored by the authorities presumably because officially, Rohingya’s are not recognized as Myanmar citizens. Though they have been living in the region since pre independence days, Myanmar’s discriminatory citizenship laws are weighted heavily against people of foreign origin. This would indicate xenophobic tendencies continue to influence official thinking.

Local political leaders including those of the National League for Democracy (NLD) were either helpless or ineffective in taking any action to curb the violence. Unless political constituency and democratic government show themselves capable of handling such critical situations, they provide an opening for military to prove themselves as an essential component of "democratic rule." This is what happened during the anti-Muslim riots when the army had to step in to control the situation.

Even Ms Aung San Suu Kyi who commands wide popularity across the board, disappointed many with her inability to handle the issue when ethnic question got mixed up with religious extremism. Coming in the wake of her demonstrated reluctance to take positive action during anti-Rohingiya riots, it showed lack of self-confidence in taking action on issues affecting the majority community.

This could have far reaching impact not only on her leadership credibility but also in NLD’s political credibility particularly when vested interests kindle divisive elements for gaining political advantage in times of election.

The sooner the democratic elements organize themselves to prevent such communal flare ups, the better it is for democracy. This is more so when Myanmar is coming out of the shell and needs the goodwill of international community for its peaceful development.

In the context of Myanmar, anti-Muslim violence has two international dimensions. The first is it could antagonize a prosperous segment of Asian investors among the Gulf countries from investing in Myanmar's development. Secondly, Islamic extremism which is staging a last ditch fight in neighbouring Bangladesh and in some of the ASEAN countries, might find a potential opportunity in Myanmar to spread its tentacles.

(Col R Hariharan, a retired Military Intelligence specialist on South Asia and its neighbourhood, is associated with the Chennai Centre for China Studies and the South Asia Analysis Group. E-Mail: colhari@yahoo.com Blog: www.colhariharan.org)

arakanese aka rakhine 'is there an ethnic so called rohinhya''. they will answer by kicking ur ***.

Whatever uneducated Rakhine savages do, don't do, think or not think, is of no consequence to 'normal' folks. God help these savages.

Listen you genocide supporting nazi faggot, dont use militants killing to justify burmese state genocide of rohingyas. burmese faggots are doing it since their independence...

Even before independence. A portion of these Bamar people are born chamars. There was a riot in 1930's between Telugu speaking folks and Burmese and Burmese expelled Indians after that - see above. They have problems with everyone... sigh.

 

[Nilgiri]

China is looking out for its best interest. Rohingya have nothing to do with China. Somehow I think the rohingya probably did something to piss off the majority of the population. Perhaps it's grudge that has been going on for decades. And btw, what the hell are rohingya doing in Buddhist Myanmar?
But I digress...

The SJW pretentious west trick you guys by slapping sanctions on the generals responsible for the massacre. Slapping sanctions on individuals, now that's a new one .

Spot on.

I need to learn English from you.

OK, you teach me mandarin then in return haha.....I am too used to Cantonese

China is a great power.

Not what I asked...but ok lets stick to this assertion. Does it correlate with the BD guy saying "China will pay dearly" for supporting Myanmar?

@Jlaw speaks sense, I know @rott and @dy1022 back his position up.

But the kiss the dragon guy is kissing something else ...not quite CPC supporter on this issue.

Wtf everyone fighting with everyone

Just enjoy the triggering

 

[UKBengali]

Not what I asked...but ok lets stick to this assertion. Does it correlate with the BD guy saying "China will pay dearly" for supporting Myanmar?

Have some shame Indian as you have been put down by a Chinese poster, that you tagged, for trying to create a wedge between China and BD. Chinese will always treat you "Indians" with the distrust and contempt you deserve. A shameless and colossal economic failure after 7 decades of independence and a living example why multi-ethnic states are a very bad idea.

Most reasonable Chinese admit that their government acted deplorably over the Rohingya issue.

You dirty Indians would like to drive a wedge between China and BD but this has failed - like how Hasina told India it should not be afraid of BD's "close ties" with China.

As for "China paying dearly" over Rohingya issue - yes it may well do but you are not smart enough to understand these things. China has jeopardised it's long term future for short to medium term advantage with Barman flip-flops.

 

[sbmc27]

I think the stake is even bigger.
China cool headedly played the game.
China is going to sign agreements on CMEC , China Myanmar economic corridors. It's a very very big stake.
If the corridor runs perfectly , it will be a tremendous leverage for China .
If you look at the Indian ocean region map CMEC effectively supplements CPEC.
So, China's stake is even bigger than billions dollars investment, rather it is geostrategic.

If we look a time forward, Bangladesh don't need to be worried. Because , Bangladesh is one of the most important pawn in India game ( IOR)along with Pakistan. Besides she has economic interests of billions dollars in trade( China is topmost trading partner of BD) , investment ( recently China is topmost investment partner of BD) , defense equipment sell ( second only after Pakistan) etc.
Plus, in the coming days, Bangladesh economic punch will be in such a position that it can burgeon with any country.

In a nutshell, Myanmar's importance to China is primarily geostrategic.
Bangladeshs importance to China is both strategic and economic.
She needs both of them.

Regards.

@Kiss_of_the_Dragon
@rott
@UKBengali
@Bilal9

Have some shame Indian as you have been put down by a Chinese poster, that you tagged, for trying to create a wedge between China and BD. Chinese will always treat you "Indians" with the distrust and contempt you deserve. A shameless and colossal economic failure after 7 decades of independence and a living example why multi-ethnic states are a very bad idea.

Most reasonable Chinese admit that their government acted deplorably over the Rohingya issue.

You dirty Indians would like to drive a wedge between China and BD but this has failed - like how Hasina told India it should not be afraid of BD's "close ties" with China.

As for "China paying dearly" over Rohingya issue - yes it may well do but you are not smart enough to understand these things. China has jeopardised it's long term future for short to medium term advantage with Barman flip-flops.

 

[Tigers]

Too many genocide fans in this thread.

 

[Flynn Swagmire]

Some people taking pictures of a nazi style concentration camp. These are proofs of our claims not yours...

oh. yes. US and western forces were so innocent at the time. history is written by the conqueror.

Yes!

no one also have right to deny our right.

With proofs everyone has.

they are also ur muslim brothers. not ? only rohingya ? oh. yes i forget that rohingya are technically bangali. so u may love them more.

Rohingyas are in our border, yemenis are not. You can call rohingyas as martians too world doesn't care.

why not ?

Why so?

lol we already declared that if any one have proof of our army troops committing crimes , we will sentence them according to our law.it's not eye wash.but taking responsibility.

lol, according to UN you burmese are committing ethnic cleansing on rohingyas. But, you are shameless enough to refuse it and not allowing any investigation.

u must be kidding me. lol

Yes.

lol as we already said, it's only for sake of healthy discussion. if u dont want it. it's ok. just expect the same response.
and we need respect from others. we dont need just from u monkey. u are nothing even in this forum. but just a monkey clown.so getting respect from u or not is nothing for us.

Who respects genocidal monkey faggots like you?

 

[Aung Zaya]

Some people taking pictures of a nazi style concentration camp. These are proofs of our claims not yours...

nope. these are photos of meeting with bangali rohingya who lived in ZERO line just behind Myanmar border fence.

Yes

it's proven again that Moneky cant think..!! sighhh!!!

With proofs everyone has.

it's not if the proof is based on Fb random posts.

Rohingyas are in our border, yemenis are not. You can call rohingyas as martians too world doesn't care.

so why do u ague with us when we called them bangali rohingya.?

Why so?

lol, according to UN you burmese are committing ethnic cleansing on rohingyas. But, you are shameless enough to refuse it and not allowing any investigation.

LOL Un is the most biased orginazation in the world. already said , we dont deny investigation but the investigators who are appointed by western countries.

Yes

LOL keep dream..!!

Who respects genocidal monkey faggots like you?

we want respect from human. not from a dirty blacky monkey faggots like u. so no need to worry about that. it's out of question for a monkey.