Erdogan's speech at UN about conflicts in Muslim world

[Pakistan Space Agency]

Turkey is the main country that has given permanent military bases to the West to attack as many Muslim nations as possible in return for economic goodies.

So I do not why this two-faced Turkish nation is always complaining about conflicts in Muslim lands.

 

[dBSPL]

Talk about Turkish history like this, it is necessary to have a very weak knowledge. The Turkish people are not rich, and the Turkish state is not a rich state. The Turkish people have been left alone or betrayed by their "Muslim brothers" especially for the last hundred years. But still it behaves in accordance with the tradition of the ancient state.

These days the world's 3rd largest donor country is Turkey. Over 8 billion dollars of aid resources are being delivered from Yemen, Somalia and Bosnia to Afghanistan, Sudan , Rohingya, each year. These figures do not include foundations such as AFAD, Kızılay, IHH.

Where was Pakistan when Muslims were killed in Kosovo? What did Turkey in there?

Where were the Pakistan while Muslims killed in Cyprus in Bulgaria, in Karabakh ? What did Turkey there?

While innocent Muslims in Somalia face terror and civil war, where is Pakistan? Turkey is doing what?

What does Pakistan while legitimate government in Libya wants to be destroyed by a failed coup general? What can Pakistan say when an elected president is killed in a courtroom in Egypt?

What did Pakistan say about Rohingya genocide? What did Turkey?

These days, while Muslims in Palestine erasing, what Turkey is doing actually?

While you so audacious about Turkey,what you said about the blockade of Qatar, embargoes against innocent Iranian people, Yemen war or Kushner alliance ?

Have you ever said a word about systematic assimilation in East Turkestan? while an important part of Kashmir, Aksai invaded by PLA Under the supervision of my Pakistani state what should we think about it ?

While All of central Asian Turkish states under Soviet occupation and the Soviets openly demanding land from Turkey, where was Pakistan?

It's that easy to judge each other.


Let us use a populist and ignorant language and condemn one of us without knowing the internal dynamics of our countries. Then let's cut into smaller pieces.

 

[azbaroj]

Talk about Turkish history like this, it is necessary to have a very weak knowledge. The Turkish people are not rich, and the Turkish state is not a rich state. The Turkish people have been left alone or betrayed by their "Muslim brothers" especially for the last hundred years. But still it behaves in accordance with the tradition of the ancient state.

These days the world's 3rd largest donor country is Turkey. Over 8 billion dollars of aid resources are being delivered from Yemen, Somalia and Bosnia to Rohingya, each year. These figures do not include foundations such as AFAD, Kızılay, IHH.

Where was Pakistan when the Muslim people in Bosnia were genocide? What did Turkey in there?

Where was Pakistan when Muslims were killed in Kosovo? What did Turkey in there?

Where were the Pakistan while Muslims killed in Cyprus in Bulgaria, in Karabakh ? What did Turkey there?

While innocent Muslims in Somalia face terror and civil war, where is Pakistan? Turkey is doing what?

What does Pakistan while legitimate government in Libya wants to be destroyed by a failed coup general? What can Pakistan say when an elected president is killed in a courtroom in Egypt?

What did Pakistan say about Rohingya genocide? What did Turkey?

These days, while Muslims in Palestine erasing, what Turkey is doing actually?

While you so audacious about Turkey,what you said about the blockade of Qatar, embargoes against innocent Iranian people, Yemen war or Kushner alliance ?

Have you ever said a word about systematic assimilation in East Turkestan? while an important part of Kashmir, Aksai invaded by PLA Under the supervision of my Pakistani state what should we think about it ?

It's that easy to judge each other.


Let us use a populist and ignorant language and condemn one of us without knowing the internal dynamics of our countries. Then let's cut into smaller pieces.

Please don't bring Pakistan when you respond to a person or a personal view . It is his ignorance or he don't realize ' the two faces ' of Turkey .

 

[Reddington]

Talk about Turkish history like this, it is necessary to have a very weak knowledge.

You should follow your own advice first . Stop commenting on matters of our country you know nothing about.

Where was Pakistan when the Muslim people in Bosnia were genocide?

When UN had imposed embargo on supply of weapons to Bosnians, it was Pakistan that supplied anti tank guided missiles to Bosnians which turned the tide in Bosnia's favour.
https://tribune.com.pk/story/256199/islamabad-refuses-to-hand-over-ex-isi-chief-to-bosnia-tribunal/

Pakistan helped Afghans in Afghan Jihad against the Soviets in the 80's. Even now millions of Afghans are living in Pakistan.
Pakistan helped and supplied arms to Chechnians in their war of independence in 90's.

Btw, Pakistan do not recognize the illegitimate state of Israel unlike some other countries.

 

[dBSPL]

Please don't bring Pakistan when you respond to a person or a personal view . It is his ignorance or he don't realize ' the two faces ' of Turkey .

I never blame Pakistan. Because I see Pakistan's honorable struggle, and the internal and external problems it faces. What I'm trying to say here is, I want to show how easy it is to blame our states without any knowladge, and how we can break up into smaller pieces by doing so.

 

[jamahir]

Gaddafi wanted an African Union with one currency

Yes, an United States of Africa, with that federation and every Muslim-majority country having a single gold-backed currency called Gold Dinar.

and wanted a permanent seat for them as well. Good idea

He basically asked what you wrote in your second paragraph. The injustice of five countries in the UNO Security Council deciding the fate of the rest of the member countries in the UNO General Assembly.

Honorable Erdogan , almost like a Caliph in our world is always correct
Admirable man for his courage, leadership and Truthfulness

1. Islamically speaking, there is no place for a position such as a Caliph. Neither that nor any king or emperor.

2. Please see my below answer.

Can you elaborate on this?

Well, the Turkey government has been very supportive of anti-Assad militant groups like the FSA right from the start of the Syrian international war.

As one example, there was an instance in early or mid 2011 when a sniper was shooting up civilians in Damascus. The security forces caught him. Initially they suspected him to be Israeli but soon found out that he was Turkish.

The Turkish government also supported ISIS. Turkey was also the crossing point from where anti-Assad fighters coming from all over the world, crossed into Syrian territory.

The Erdogan government is not innocent at all.

it means that Erdagon has only two or three years left..

You mean NATO will destabilize Turkey like they did with Libya, Syria and Venezuela ??

Or you mean something else ??

 

[xenon54 out]

You're not the official representative of Turkey so I totally ignore you and your rants and I do visit Turkey since my wife's grand mother lives in Izmir and three of my employees are Turks living in Sweden with families and relatives in Turkey and they all know where I stand so I again I ignore your ignorant and emotional rants ...you are free to cry on Pakistani forum so keep crying.

*Chinese Forum

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Talk about Turkish history like this, it is necessary to have a very weak knowledge. The Turkish people are not rich, and the Turkish state is not a rich state. The Turkish people have been left alone or betrayed by their "Muslim brothers" especially for the last hundred years. But still it behaves in accordance with the tradition of the ancient state.

These days the world's 3rd largest donor country is Turkey. Over 8 billion dollars of aid resources are being delivered from Yemen, Somalia and Bosnia to Afghanistan, Sudan , Rohingya, each year. These figures do not include foundations such as AFAD, Kızılay, IHH.

Where was Pakistan when Muslims were killed in Kosovo? What did Turkey in there?

Where were the Pakistan while Muslims killed in Cyprus in Bulgaria, in Karabakh ? What did Turkey there?

While innocent Muslims in Somalia face terror and civil war, where is Pakistan? Turkey is doing what?

What does Pakistan while legitimate government in Libya wants to be destroyed by a failed coup general? What can Pakistan say when an elected president is killed in a courtroom in Egypt?

What did Pakistan say about Rohingya genocide? What did Turkey?

These days, while Muslims in Palestine erasing, what Turkey is doing actually?

While you so audacious about Turkey,what you said about the blockade of Qatar, embargoes against innocent Iranian people, Yemen war or Kushner alliance ?

Have you ever said a word about systematic assimilation in East Turkestan? while an important part of Kashmir, Aksai invaded by PLA Under the supervision of my Pakistani state what should we think about it ?

While All of central Asian Turkish states under Soviet occupation and the Soviets openly demanding land from Turkey, where was Pakistan?

It's that easy to judge each other.


Let us use a populist and ignorant language and condemn one of us without knowing the internal dynamics of our countries. Then let's cut into smaller pieces.

My dearest, Your post has a lot of inaccuracies to say the least.

 

[xenon54 out]

Talk about Turkish history like this, it is necessary to have a very weak knowledge. The Turkish people are not rich, and the Turkish state is not a rich state. The Turkish people have been left alone or betrayed by their "Muslim brothers" especially for the last hundred years. But still it behaves in accordance with the tradition of the ancient state.

These days the world's 3rd largest donor country is Turkey. Over 8 billion dollars of aid resources are being delivered from Yemen, Somalia and Bosnia to Afghanistan, Sudan , Rohingya, each year. These figures do not include foundations such as AFAD, Kızılay, IHH.

Where was Pakistan when Muslims were killed in Kosovo? What did Turkey in there?

Where were the Pakistan while Muslims killed in Cyprus in Bulgaria, in Karabakh ? What did Turkey there?

While innocent Muslims in Somalia face terror and civil war, where is Pakistan? Turkey is doing what?

What does Pakistan while legitimate government in Libya wants to be destroyed by a failed coup general? What can Pakistan say when an elected president is killed in a courtroom in Egypt?

What did Pakistan say about Rohingya genocide? What did Turkey?

These days, while Muslims in Palestine erasing, what Turkey is doing actually?

While you so audacious about Turkey,what you said about the blockade of Qatar, embargoes against innocent Iranian people, Yemen war or Kushner alliance ?

Have you ever said a word about systematic assimilation in East Turkestan? while an important part of Kashmir, Aksai invaded by PLA Under the supervision of my Pakistani state what should we think about it ?

While All of central Asian Turkish states under Soviet occupation and the Soviets openly demanding land from Turkey, where was Pakistan?

It's that easy to judge each other.


Let us use a populist and ignorant language and condemn one of us without knowing the internal dynamics of our countries. Then let's cut into smaller pieces.

But i agree with him, Turkey should care less about others just because of same religion and finally start to priorize its own well being.
Our current FP brings no benefit, more like the opposite is the case right now.
Shelter millions and pay billions, in the end someone like above comes and give you the shits....

 

[dBSPL]

The Turkish government also supported ISIS.

Another shitty lie ... Turkey has supported only elements of the FSA.

Assad's legitimacy and threats against Turkey is a separate issue.

However, some of the FSA elements trained in a joint program with the United States switched to different factions after a period. Due to the suspicious cases in the United States on this issue, Turkey has been terminated to supporting this program in 2016.

All of Turkey Backed FSA elements are located in the Syrian constitutional commission with the agreement reached with Iran and Russia. Regime and FSA elements will decide the new governing type at constitutional talks in Geneva.

There's no need to be nonsense here. It can be discussed in the relevant topic.

My dearest, Your post has a lot of inaccuracies to say the least.

I never blame Pakistan. Because I see Pakistan's honorable struggle, and the internal and external problems it faces. What I'm trying to say here is, I want to show how easy it is to blame our states without any knowladge, and how we can break up into smaller pieces by doing so.

 

[jamahir]

There's no need to be nonsense here. It can be discussed in the relevant topic.

Answer one simple question. Why is the Turkey government allowing anti-Assad foreign fighters to use Turkey-Syria border as crossover point into Syria ??

This is very relevant to this thread because I am talking about Erdogan's interference in Syria.

In 2015, the Indian security agencies arrested a young man, Mehdi Masroor Biswas, who ran a Twitter account by name of Shami Witness which was guiding foreign anti-Assad fighters, through Tweets, as to which is the best place everyday to get into Syria from Turkey.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

Answer one simple question. Why is the Turkey government allowing anti-Assad foreign fighters to use Turkey-Syria border as crossover point into Syria ??

This is very relevant to this thread because I am talking about Erdogan's interference in Syria.

In 2015, the Indian security agencies arrested a young man, Mehdi Masroor Biswas, who ran a Twitter account by name of Shami Witness which was guiding foreign anti-Assad fighters, through Tweets, as to which is the best place everyday to get into Syria from Turkey.

Erdogan arms FSA to kill Christians in Syria.

 

[New World]

You mean NATO will destabilize Turkey like they did with Libya, Syria and Venezuela ??

Or you mean something else ??

NATO will not intervene in Turkey like they did in Libya etc.

I'm expecting arab spring type thing with the low down of economy and devaluation of Lira, and we might see another 15 July type coup to overthrow Erdagon and AKP party..

 

[lonelyman]

at 21:00, Egypt rep stand up, look at his face
Palestine woman very pretty at 22:00

what's the point make the useless grand speech?

better yourself is the only way

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

well gadaffi was killed because he said such things. i hope Erdogan is not killed ... anyways if they are martyred i hope more than 3 or 4 more leaders speak up. United Nations is useless in solving problems that's true...

at 21:00, Egypt rep stand up, look at his face
Palestine woman very pretty at 22:00

what's the point make the useless grand speech?

better yourself is the only way

i think you are right. just like chinese do, they don't annouce something that they are going to do it.. they do it and then the world knows...

for us muslims and people like gadafi and others they annouced too soon and paid the price even their countries were destroyed.

i think saying about nuclear weapons by turkey in UN was not wise . they should do it but covertly , like israel and pakistan did.


also they should form alliances and balacing organizations to rival united nations but don't announce it in the infancy Chinese are smart they don't annouce stuff like this. they do it behind closed doors. that's why they get things done.


i agree with Mr Tayib Erdogan. but i would very much like to have these things done covertly rather than blown in our faces.