Erdogan sent Israel envoy to Turkey packing back to Israel

[jewishm]

I will let you into a secret that the Palestinians understand
The jews do not want peace!!!! what the jews want is israel including gaza and the west bank, the problem they have is that millions of Palestinians live their and they only increase in number

The jews understand a single binational state will kill them, they cant keep pace with Palestinians numbers so if they agree to give Palestinians equal rights as equal citizens it starts the clock on the end of the jew state.

They also don't want a peace agreement or a Palestinian state, because they covet the land the Palestinians live on, if they agree to peace they have to give up land for a Palestinian state..

What they want is the status quo, to gradually try to put so much pressure on Palestinians that they break and leave, they want to gradually increase settlements, keep stealing land, create more and more of a security state that crushes Palestinians into ghettos...

Most of the things that the Israelis try to do are unnecessary from a people who would want peace or to distance themselves from an enemy.
They try to keep a tight grip on the Palestinians lives, they control their finances, their exports, imports, visitors, borders, sky above them, ground beneath them
All to retain control of the land and try to crush the Palestinians

The Palestinians acts of resistance from BDS to utilising international forums are simply time pass because they know the jews have no intention of giving them peace.
But the Palestinians also know that in
2018 they have reached population parity
By 2030 they will be the majority on current trends from then on it will only increase

They know the horrendous situation they have been thrown into, they have no option but to resist and keep living and increasing their population

actually its sounds like 99% of the muslim occupations over the middle east
not like tiny israel.
no one want the gaza strip not israel not egypt no one.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

actually its sounds like 99% of the muslim occupations over the middle east
not like tiny israel.
no one want the gaza strip not israel not egypt no one.

Persian was extinct before it was revived. Akkadian extinct. Phoenician extinct. Aramean almost extinct. Hebrew was extinct before it was revived. Indeed, Arabic is a UN official language why? Because of past conquest.

 

[hussain0216]

They withdrew from Gaza and parts of the WB. Gave autonomy to palestinians and helped them form their first government.



They agreed to initial partition, and have offered 3 separate meaningful peace deals, the most famous of which Arafat rejected and essentially means the US gave up because they knew if the palestinians rejected such a deal, then no deal could be done.



As you said, palestinian population continues to grow. Under Israel their life expectancy rose above that of Egypt and Turkey. Israel added 30 years to the average palestinian life. Infant mortality reduced drastically.

Not the actions one would undertake when trying to rid the area of a population.



Ironically their population increasing makes conditions worse for them. Not much space in Gaza.

Oh well, you still didn't agree there should be an alternative. Status quo it is then.

Yes the population increase makes life worse,,

The area is tiny including israel

But the population increase is necessary to cram as many people into the tiny area as possible

Consider it area denial tactics

From day 1 the jews have never wanted peace their whole reasoning is based on a state for jews from Poland, Russia or elsewhere turning up in israel and automatically getting more rights then the arabs who live their..

Once you understand that you understand why the jews are so two faced about the peace process

actually its sounds like 99% of the muslim occupations over the middle east
not like tiny israel.
no one want the gaza strip not israel not egypt no one.

Too many palestinians

If there were less Palestinians they would have tried the same tricks as in the west bank

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

From day 1 the jews have never wanted peace their whole reasoning is based on a state for jews from Poland, Russia or elsewhere turning up in israel and automatically getting more rights then the arabs who live their..

That's right. And Jews think God promised them all the land from Nile to Euphrates so they gonna have to invade Egypt and Syria to fulfill God's promise to Jews.

 

[GBU-28]

Too many palestinians

If there were less Palestinians they would have tried the same tricks as in the west bank

There are far more palestinians in the WB than there are in Gaza.

You don't know much about the people you champion. I'm getting the vibe that perhaps you champion them more out of a hatred for Israel and Jews, than love for palestinians.

I haven't seen you care much about half a million dead Muslims in Syria. No Jews, no news?

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I haven't seen you care much about half a million dead Muslims in Syria. No Jews, no news?

People die in war. Millions died in WW1 and WW2. What's your point? Muslims should not kill Muslims?

 

[GBU-28]

People die in war. Millions died in WW1 and WW2. What's your point? Muslims should not kill Muslims?

My point is that the 'ummah' seems to be quite hypocritical. They'll go into a rage over some border-jumping terrorists being shot, but give a shrug of the shoulders about Syria.

I guess half a million dead is just a 'domestic' in the Islamic world.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

I guess half a million dead is just a 'domestic' in the Islamic world.

It is domestic to you monotheists. It is not domestic to atheists like me. We could cares less what you monotheists do to each other.

 

[Exxxe]

The Turks will need to get used to it as long as palestinian identity revolves around terrorism.

It's weird
Didn't see any report of an Israeli soldier injured or Killled

So 60 Terrorists dead without a single death in your ranks ( hmmmm you really believe that )

Look Israel is killing innocent unarmed people but still these people are causing damage and headache to Israelis better than with a gun know why ??

Because their cause is just and legit the ONLY war/conflict that happened for true meaningful reasons over the past 100 years a right of land , a right of prosperity and a right of freedom
( it's all what a true soul would ask for )

That's why this struggle will never end till Palestinians are victorious

 

[hussain0216]

There are far more palestinians in the WB than there are in Gaza.

You don't know much about the people you champion. I'm getting the vibe that perhaps you champion them more out of a hatred for Israel and Jews, than love for palestinians.

I haven't seen you care much about half a million dead Muslims in Syria. No Jews, no news?

Yes but the West bank is bigger and more central and surrounds Jerusalem

yes I hate jews, why wouldn't I , as a Muslim i identify with the Palestinians so I also identify their enemy as my own

of course I care about the Syrians they are going through a horrific civil war, I wish them the best

but Jerusalem and al aqsa is not negotiable

 

[Exxxe]

My point is that the 'ummah' seems to be quite hypocritical. They'll go into a rage over some border-jumping terrorists being shot, but give a shrug of the shoulders about Syria.

I guess half a million dead is just a 'domestic' in the Islamic world.

Funny you mention Syria since Israel also has a part there

Everyone Condemns and hates what's going on in Syria so don't lie and distract from Main topic

Palestine is the center of Muslim world without it Muslims have neither identity nor dignity
Problem with Israeli Jews is that they don't want to co exist no they see themselves as superior with absolute right to this land

A land they stole ( it has not been a 100 years yet and still ) a land that will never be theirs because 1) there will always be people claiming it
2) most theses people know and believe it's theirs and their right protected by god himself ( Allah )
3) your actions towards them and their children and their culture just infuriates them and encourages them further you idi0t
What Israel want is for phalestanians to just be gone but that can't happen lol
Even if no more left in Palestine there is more in Jordan / saudi Arabia/ Algeria/ everywhere

Your only option left is to passivy them all
But see you can't because of who they are and what they stand for and believe in
The last two statements you will never understand because you can't imagine a right in which either be achieved or killed
And you can't kill them all you just can't

 

[GBU-28]

It's weird
Didn't see any report of an Israeli soldier injured or Killled

So 60 Terrorists dead without a single death in your ranks ( hmmmm you really believe that )

Look Israel is killing innocent unarmed people but still these people are causing damage and headache to Israelis better than with a gun know why ??

Because their cause is just and legit the ONLY war/conflict that happened for true meaningful reasons over the past 100 years a right of land , a right of prosperity and a right of freedom
( it's all what a true soul would ask for )

That's why this struggle will never end till Palestinians are victorious

Again, this is the argument of a moron. Body counts don't determine who is right or wrong.

The Israeli army were ready for them, well equipped with eyes in the sky and a vantage point on top of sand banks looking down.

If the IDF did not spot the terrorist cell planting the explosives, we might have the dead soldiers today that you so desperately want.

These are some of the "civilians" who didn't make it.

palestinians will never be victorious. That's why they have to come up with the only alternative they haven't tried for 70 years. Peace.

but Jerusalem and al aqsa is not negotiable

I must say, it's really good that you managed to encapsulate the palestinian intransigence that means there will never be peace.

It's good that a Pakistani in the comfort of his home in England no doubt paid for by the welfare state, is happy to play with palestinian lives.

 

[Yongpeng Sun-Tastaufen]

palestinians will never be victorious. That's why they have to come up with the only alternative they haven't tried for 70 years. Peace.

Fortune turns like the wheel. Hebrews lost their homeland and their language for thousands of years and they are doing well in modern days. Who knows what the future will bring.

 

[The SC]

And none are more successful at taking other people's land than Muslims.

So you should expect loosing "your land" to Muslims one of these days..as you know that none are more successful at that..

 

[T-Rex]

The Turks will need to get used to it as long as palestinian identity revolves around terrorism.

The israeli occupation revolves around terrorism because there's no other way to continue the robbery.

Not as long as palestinian identity and culture revolves around terrorism. Not as long as their cultural heroes are suicide bombers instead of sports people. Not as long as they teach their kids how to stab Jews.

You'll just need to keep stomping your feet in anger in Bradford until your co-religionists in Gaza decide on a different path. We've been waiting for a few decades and no sign of them trying a different approach.

The zionazi existence revolve around terrorism!