🏆 Elon Musk’s Starship rocket reaches space [but not orbit] for the first time [ 2x as powerful as a SaturnV 🚀]

[Hamartia Antidote]

Elon Musk’s Starship rocket reaches space for the first time

Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

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Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

Starship launched from a base in Boca Chica, Texas, on Saturday © AP

SpaceX’s Starship rocket reached space for the first time on Saturday though both the ship and its main booster were lost minutes into the flight, dealing another setback to Elon Musk’s ambition of carrying humans to Mars.

The 400ft-tall rocket — the most powerful ever launched — left its launch pad alongside the Gulf of Mexico in Texas just after 7am local time and rose above a height of 100km, the point at which space begins, before the mishaps that affected its first failed launch in April recurred.After nearly three minutes of flight the spacecraft successfully separated from its first stage, a step further than SpaceX managed in the first test.


However the first part of the rocket, known as a super heavy booster, spun out of control and failed to return to the ground as planned.SpaceX eventually hopes to reuse both stages of the rocket to bring down the cost of flight, though it had only planned to land the booster during Saturday’s test.

The engines on the rocket’s second stage, bearing the spaceship that Nasa hopes to use to carry astronauts to the Moon later this decade, fired successfully and nearly completed their scheduled six-minute burn before SpaceX reported that it had lost contact with the craft.

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Some heavy lift rocket size comparisons

Note: China's most powerful rocket is on the far left (CZ-5) while SpaceX's Starship is on the far right.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I have watched the video, and the first stage of the rocket did explode when reaching an altitude of 90 km.

Nevertheless, it made a progression compared to the first launch.

The progression of the starship has motivated China to speed up its CZ-9 launch around 2030.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I have watched the video, and the first stage of the rocket did explode when reaching an altitude of 90 km.

Yes, the lower stage booster exploded after separating from the upper stage Starship...but the upper stage clearly shows 100km being passed in the bottom right..Starship made it into Space.

The progression of the starship has motivated China to speed up its CZ-9 launch around 2030.

Well CZ-9 has an expected LEO capacity of 100-160 tonnes in 2030

Meanwhile

SpaceX

SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches advanced rockets and spacecraft.

www.spacex.com

Starship will probably achieve the 250 metric ton LEO orbital success in 2024.

The 100-150 ton LEO full reusability may be 2026.

 

[buntalanlucu]

It just a test and teh rocket not even reached orbit, the amount of flag waving is just as bad as indian rocket watchers who predict india will build manned space station in near future when in reality they cant even launch man into space.

the american flagged indian account are so obvious in spreading western fake news and propaganda in PDF

 

[serenity]

Starship has loftier goals than CZ-9. It's main engines are also ready whereas China is currently running lots of ground tests for CZ-9's main engines (and doing very well) but schedule of program is roughly 5 to 10 years behind Starship's Raptors. The two are not comparable apart from being US and China's respective heaviest lifters when ready and in service, with Starship's program being at least 5 years ahead of CZ-9's program.

LM-5/ CZ-5 is still an excellent heavy lifter. It's also silly to compare it with Starship. One is an experimental in early stage trials and iteration process while LM-5 has been in active service for many years now. While that's China's current heaviest lifter, it is one of very, very few heavy lifter vehicles in the world. In terms of nations, only US, China, and Russia even have heavy lifter rockets. Many Russians have doubts over Starship's viability as a platform but it is certainly the most impressive and ambitious program around. And obviously the furthest ahead in terms of program schedule.

In terms of super heavies, apart from US and China not a single nation or union (EU) have even programs around with tangible effort towards achieving goals. For China to be even closing this gap with US over the last few decades is impressive considering how competent US is in this field. I'm already impressed with LM-5 and LM-7 and what those can do for China in terms of ambitious space missions and lunar goals. LM-9 is a bit of a fund drain in my opinion but super heavies need to be done and work needs to start somewhere I guess. Those progams for China just have diminishing returns in my opinion esp when factoring respective funds available.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Yes, the lower stage booster exploded after separating from the upper stage Starship...but the upper stage clearly shows 100km being passed in the bottom right..Starship made it into Space.
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Well CZ-9 has an expected LEO capacity of 100-160 tonnes in 2030

Meanwhile

SpaceX

SpaceX designs, manufactures and launches advanced rockets and spacecraft.

www.spacex.com

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Starship will probably achieve the 250 metric ton LEO orbital success in 2024.

The 100-150 ton LEO full reusability may be 2026.

The CZ-9 will have a reusable LEO of 150-160 tonnes, and the expendable LEO will also exceed 250 tonnes.

If the CZ-9 also uses the stainless steel like the Starship, it will weigh more than 5000 tonnes.

Musk wants to save cost, thus he chooses the stainless steel.

The CZ-9 will use the lighter composite materials, and weighs about 4400 tonnes, but its LEO will exceed that of the Starship.

 

[F-22Raptor]

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Elon Musk’s Starship rocket reaches space for the first time

Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

www.ft.com

Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

Starship launched from a base in Boca Chica, Texas, on Saturday © AP

SpaceX’s Starship rocket reached space for the first time on Saturday though both the ship and its main booster were lost minutes into the flight, dealing another setback to Elon Musk’s ambition of carrying humans to Mars.

The 400ft-tall rocket — the most powerful ever launched — left its launch pad alongside the Gulf of Mexico in Texas just after 7am local time and rose above a height of 100km, the point at which space begins, before the mishaps that affected its first failed launch in April recurred.After nearly three minutes of flight the spacecraft successfully separated from its first stage, a step further than SpaceX managed in the first test.


However the first part of the rocket, known as a super heavy booster, spun out of control and failed to return to the ground as planned.SpaceX eventually hopes to reuse both stages of the rocket to bring down the cost of flight, though it had only planned to land the booster during Saturday’s test.

The engines on the rocket’s second stage, bearing the spaceship that Nasa hopes to use to carry astronauts to the Moon later this decade, fired successfully and nearly completed their scheduled six-minute burn before SpaceX reported that it had lost contact with the craft.

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Rocket size comparison

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Note: China's most powerful rocket is on the far left (CZ-5) while SpaceX's Starship is on the far right.

With how well the pad and water cooled steel plate performed, perfect first stage ascent with high reliability of Raptor engines and stage separation, I expect Flight 3 within 2-3 months.

We also had a long duration burn of Starship just prior to coast phase.

SpaceX is making great progress

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The CZ-9 will have a reusable LEO of 150-160 tonnes, and the expendable LEO will also exceed 250 tonnes.

You haven't even figured out how to make any of your current rockets reusable and you change the CZ-9 design more often than Hollywood celebrity wardrobes.

The Falcon 9 will have successfully landed for the 250th time within the next two weeks while you have successfully landed zero. The Falcon 9 was not originally designed to land..it was an afterthought that was successfully implemented. How come you guys can't figure out how to do that?

I think the current CZ-9 design is now matching Elon Musk's design of lots of engines instead of strap on boosters. Funny how that is.

If the CZ-9 also uses the stainless steel like the Starship, it will weigh more than 5000 tonnes.

Musk wants to save cost, thus he chooses the stainless steel.

Yes, because he plans on building 1000 of them.

The CZ-9 will use the lighter composite materials, and weighs about 4400 tonnes, but its LEO will exceed that of the Starship.

We'll see how well that goes because right now it is perpetually changing vaporware.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You haven't even figured out how to make your current rockets reusable and you change the CZ-9 design more often than celebrity wardrobes.

I think the current design now is matching Elon Musk's design of lots of engines instead of strap on boosters. Funny how that is.



Yes, because he plans on building 1000 of them.



We'll see how well that goes because right now it is perpetually changing vaporware.

We are getting close, and now it is 100% confirmed that the near future CZ-5 will be reusable.

Even the CZ-10 will be partially reusable, and the CZ-10 is overall closer in aspect with the SLS block 1.

The CZ-10 will have its maiden flight by 2026. And with the progression made by the Starship, the CZ-9 will be very likely moving forward for a 2030 maiden flight.

When China has set up for a maiden flight, it will make sure that the maiden flight will be 100% successful.

 

[beijingwalker]

I thought the idea of ..% successful was invented by Indians...

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I thought the idea of ..% successful was invented by Indians...

For us, anything below 100% should not be considered as successful.

Just like the 2017 launch of the CZ-5, the rocket did perform normally, but the satellite had failed to enter inter the orbit. Then, it was automatically considered as a failure, and there is such thing as partial success in our dictionary.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

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Elon Musk’s Starship rocket reaches space for the first time

Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

www.ft.com

Ship and main booster lost minutes into flight after topping 100km atmospheric limit

Starship launched from a base in Boca Chica, Texas, on Saturday © AP

SpaceX’s Starship rocket reached space for the first time on Saturday though both the ship and its main booster were lost minutes into the flight, dealing another setback to Elon Musk’s ambition of carrying humans to Mars.

The 400ft-tall rocket — the most powerful ever launched — left its launch pad alongside the Gulf of Mexico in Texas just after 7am local time and rose above a height of 100km, the point at which space begins, before the mishaps that affected its first failed launch in April recurred.After nearly three minutes of flight the spacecraft successfully separated from its first stage, a step further than SpaceX managed in the first test.


However the first part of the rocket, known as a super heavy booster, spun out of control and failed to return to the ground as planned.SpaceX eventually hopes to reuse both stages of the rocket to bring down the cost of flight, though it had only planned to land the booster during Saturday’s test.

The engines on the rocket’s second stage, bearing the spaceship that Nasa hopes to use to carry astronauts to the Moon later this decade, fired successfully and nearly completed their scheduled six-minute burn before SpaceX reported that it had lost contact with the craft.

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Rocket size comparison

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Note: China's most powerful rocket is on the far left (CZ-5) while SpaceX's Starship is on the far right.

I think first stage of starship 33 engines are inspired by soviet era N1 moon rocket

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

I think first stage of starship 33 engines are inspired by soviet era N1 moon rocket

Yes, the Soviets tried but failed.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Is op a homo?

LOL! Shouldn't you be busy back in the Hamas thread uselessly shaking your fists or something for another 2,700 pages instead of being here?

It just a test and teh rocket not even reached orbit, the amount of flag waving is just as bad as indian rocket watchers who predict india will build manned space station in near future when in reality they cant even launch man into space.

the american flagged indian account are so obvious in spreading western fake news and propaganda in PDF

This reminds me of all the PAGES and PAGES of flag waving by the Chinese members about China building their own 7nm process for Huawei only to find out later they just leveraged some ASML DUV machines.

Talk about major Indian style back patting!!! The Chinese and the Indians really do act like brothers!! So many "Chinese with Indian characteristics" in that chip thread. Likely you are one too! Sorry for that!

Meanwhile this thread hasn't even crossed one page and you are already crying.

 

[Haldorss]

LOL! Shouldn't you be busy back in the Hamas thread uselessly shaking your fists or something for another 2,700 pages instead of being here?

it's not useless.

i have informed many shias and sunnis about the situation and israelis now know hamas operation was legal.

i've also said the best way forward for this for all parties would be greater israel.. Sunnis are acting as part of Nato.

I also showed a new saudi map with a plan to steal persian land and found out swedish leftists are linked to 'christian' facists (and sunnis) through kurds (unless the account was an israeli account i got info from, but it's close to the current vibe from sunnis anyway)