Elephant in India goes berzerk at religious festival 1 dead many injured

[KapitaanAli]

Another Bullshits talking without knowledge

Sorry. It should be clear from my post that I want jellikett to continue, for the sake of our breeds.
But it calls for aggressive bulls and thus many miscreants do things to them. Deal with them and I'm your biggest supporter.

 

[El Sidd]

You know nothing about elephants. I was raised along with elephants, so called animal activist all bullshit

Holy crap mowglis here

 

[RPK]

Can you tell me about the gestation period of female elephants please???

@RPK

They make camps with effects from Government or private for Particular time period.

Holy crap mowglis here

We have very healthy eco system where Human and wildlife go hand in hand

Google western ghats in India

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/1342

 

[El Sidd]

We have very healthy eco system where Human and wildlife go hand in hand

Google western ghats in India

I dont need to actually...

But my question still remain answered.

 

[waz]

Nine year old video. here is the link.

Typical NGOs trying to push through their agendas by rehashing old news. And I don't think we need a lesson from white folks how to preserve wildlife.

Fair enough it's old and I do agree somewhat that there are dubious NGO's out there, but do you agree with captive elephants doing things like this?

They're not caged or abused. This state has secular "elephant love" animal rights groups that won't forgive such acts and sometimes go crazier than peta. It's the state animal of Kerala.
We are now more and more careful to cool them and feed them during festivals. Only thing I don't like is banging drums near them, but they're very used to that as well.

Then why does this happen you ask?
Here:
Musth or must /ˈmʌst/ is a periodic condition in bull (male) elephants, characterized by highly aggressive behavior and accompanied by a large rise in reproductive hormones.

Well I'll have to disagree with the abuse part, even though it may not be beatings etc, but having them perform in this unnatural way is not right.
As for the male, you're right, that's the reason why they should be roaming the jungles and forests of India.....

 

[ranjeet]

Fair enough it's old and I do agree somewhat that there are dubious NGO's out there, but do you agree with captive elephants doing things like this?

Depends on how one defines "captive". People who rear these animals are doing it for centuries for this specific purpose only and I won't take a white person's word for it over a native about his/her culture.

 

[waz]

Horses and dogs are wild animals originally..

That have been domesticated for thousands of years, hardly a comparison.

Depends on how one defines "captive". People who rear these animals are doing it for centuries for this specific purpose only and I won't take a white person's word for it over a native about his/her culture.

Well I know captive is a very subjective term and the Kerala folk do look after them, however what they do is not natural and that does effect the psychology of the animal.

 

[El Sidd]

That have been domesticated for thousands of years, hardly a comparison.

You can 'domesticate' any animal.

In theory elephants are as close to domestication as they can be.

But when a dog the size of elephant pounce on humans. Humans come off worse.

Size matters in the animal kingdom

 

[waz]

You can 'domesticate' any animal.

In theory elephants are as close to domestication as they can be.

But when a dog the size of elephant pounce on humans. Humans come off worse.

Size matters in the animal kingdom

Lol, true.

 

[RPK]

That have been domesticated for thousands of years, hardly a comparison.

Do you saying nobody abused it or nobody killed by it?

 

[ranjeet]

Well I know captive is a very subjective term and the Kerala folk do look after them, however what they do is not natural and that does effect the psychology of the animal.

What exactly they do?

 

[KapitaanAli]

Well I'll have to disagree with the abuse part, even though it may not be beatings etc, but having them perform in this unnatural way is not right.
As for the male, you're right, that's the reason why they should be roaming the jungles and forests of India.....

What do you think about my this post:

I'd be the happiest if animals are left alone.
But sometimes captivity and cultural traditions let them flourish. Tamil bulls of jellikettu is a great example, but a lot of abuse happens there. Elephants of Kerala is another example, with almost non-existent abuse, and humans are ready to fight for their right treatment.

So, we must make sure these traditions continue, so that the animals don't lose their relevance and the relevance of elephants aren't limited to Chinese desire for ivory. Take extreme steps to make sure that the animals are happy within these traditions.

Like I said before, I don't like beating drums near elephants. But it's not extreme and they get used to it.
Actual elephant abuse happens in Thailand.

If they aren't involved in traditions, these majestic animals will end up having the fate of the Northern White Rhino.
Limited to some areas, dwindling slowly ending up in Chinese bedrooms and studies until they go extinct.

It's not like we don't have wildlife sanctuaries with wild elephants.

So I believe that it should be a fine balance. I do see your point of course.

 

[El Sidd]

What exactly they do?

The problem is elephants have a very complex social structure and culture too.

To successfully tame aka train the elephant you start early thus by separating it from the mother. An elephants biggest source of wisdom. Thats why its said no one can replace a mother.

Now these distressed animal lands itself with little knowledge nor means to know how to behave.

Basically its being naughty driven by hormones. Humans are fragile animals. Do the maths yourself

 

[KapitaanAli]

Kerala introduces ambulance service for wild elephants injured in the forests
The ambulance will have cranes, ropes, and animal movement restricting facility

• TNM Staff
• Thursday, November 05, 2015 - 16:12

For the first time in the state, the Kerala Forest Department will launch an emergency ambulance service for wild elephants in the forest area of Muthanga and Wayand.

This move comes after many reports of wild elephants getting injured and the need for an ambulance which can be used to transport wild elephants, injured or diseased, from the forest to hospitals and bring them back.


The ambulance will be a modified lorry.

Manoramaonline reports that the ambulance can also to be used to transport domesticated elephants that would be needed to dissuade wild elephants from entering inhabited lands.

The ambulance will have cranes, ropes, and animal movement restricting facility. The vehicle also will have food, water and medicine storage in case of emergencies.

Till now, vehicles were brought in from Tamil Nadu each time an injured or diseased elephants was reported inside the forests, and the tuskers would usually lose their life before the vehicles reached.

 

[NoOne'sBoy]

@NoOne'sBoy you lankan.

How do you deal with it in lanka?

tbh i dont know. there hasnt been elephants going bat shit crazy in recent times but i think it's time that they ban using innocent animals for human egoistic bullshit.