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Elderly relative lashes out at Beijing's handling of ship tragedy
By John Ruwitch and Megha Rajagopalan

Elderly relative lashes out at Beijing's handling of ship tragedy - Yahoo News

JIANLI, China (Reuters) - An irate relative of two passengers missing aboard a Chinese cruise ship which capsized on the Yangtze River publicly accused the government of treating its people like enemies, as officials struggled to contain public anger over the disaster.

Only 14 survivors, one of them the captain, have been found after the ship carrying 456 overturned in a freak tornado on Monday night. A total of 103 bodies have been found.

Frustration over the lack of information has grown among families of the missing. Seventy-year-old Xia Yunchen burst into a just finished news briefing with senior officials on Friday, screaming and demanding answers.

"Is it necessary to treat the common people, one by one, as if you are facing some kind of formidable foe?" said Xia, whose sister and brother-in-law were aboard the Eastern Star.

Xia, from the eastern city of Qingdao, told reporters she had wanted to get into the news conference to hear for herself what the government was saying, and that she wanted an honest investigation because family members doubted the weather was the real cause of the disaster.

"You view the common people as if we are all your enemy. We are tax payers. We support the government. You had better change your notion of this relationship. You are here to serve us. You need to be humane," Xia said, before being escorted out.

Police then kept reporters back behind a closed gate while they moved away relatives and passersby on the street outside.

About 1,200 relatives have converged on Jianli county in Hubei province where the disaster happened.

"My most important hope in coming here is still the same - to lay eyes on my mother," said Zhang Junmin.

Another relative, who asked not to be identified, sent a Reuters reporter a picture from their hotel room showing three police cars parked outside, by way of explaining why they were too nervous to meet.

Aware of the sensitivity of the disaster, the ruling Communist Party's Politburo Standing Committee, China's apex of power, called on local authorities to take measures to help grieving families and to "earnestly safeguard social stability".

"NO COVER-UP"

Rescuers, many from the military, worked through the night to right the four-deck ship. Pictures on state television showed the ship, which had capsized completely, sitting upright in the water. Large dents and gashes scarred its blue roof.

Rescuers will continue searching for the victims as they bail out water from the ship for the next five to six hours, said Xu Chengguang, a spokesman for the transport ministry, at a news conference.

Dozens of relatives gathered in front of the crematorium, demanding to be allowed inside. Many carried bouquets of flowers.

The crematorium gates were manned by uniformed police, who initially refused to let them inside. They were later allowed in after foreign reporters arrived on a government-organized bus tour.

Relatives have asked the government to release the names of survivors and the confirmed deaths, and questioned why most of those rescued were crew members.

Some have demanded to know why the boat did not dock in the storm, and how the rescued captain and crew members had time to put on life vests but did not sound any alarm.

Beijing has pledged there would be "no cover-up" in the investigation.

Police have detained the captain and chief engineer for questioning, though authorities have given no details. An initial investigation found the ship was not overloaded and had enough life vests on board.

On Thursday, more than 200 divers had groped through murky water after cutting through the hull, searching every cabin on board, but found no more survivors.

(Additional reporting by Kim Kyung-Hoon and Engen Tham in SHANGHAI; Writing by Ben Blanchard and Sui-Lee Wee; Editing by Paul Tait and Jeremy Laurence)
 
Elderly relative lashes out at Beijing's handling of ship tragedy
By John Ruwitch and Megha Rajagopalan

Elderly relative lashes out at Beijing's handling of ship tragedy - Yahoo News

JIANLI, China (Reuters) - An irate relative of two passengers missing aboard a Chinese cruise ship which capsized on the Yangtze River publicly accused the government of treating its people like enemies, as officials struggled to contain public anger over the disaster.

Only 14 survivors, one of them the captain, have been found after the ship carrying 456 overturned in a freak tornado on Monday night. A total of 103 bodies have been found.

Frustration over the lack of information has grown among families of the missing. Seventy-year-old Xia Yunchen burst into a just finished news briefing with senior officials on Friday, screaming and demanding answers.

"Is it necessary to treat the common people, one by one, as if you are facing some kind of formidable foe?" said Xia, whose sister and brother-in-law were aboard the Eastern Star.

Xia, from the eastern city of Qingdao, told reporters she had wanted to get into the news conference to hear for herself what the government was saying, and that she wanted an honest investigation because family members doubted the weather was the real cause of the disaster.

"You view the common people as if we are all your enemy. We are tax payers. We support the government. You had better change your notion of this relationship. You are here to serve us. You need to be humane," Xia said, before being escorted out.

Police then kept reporters back behind a closed gate while they moved away relatives and passersby on the street outside.

About 1,200 relatives have converged on Jianli county in Hubei province where the disaster happened.

"My most important hope in coming here is still the same - to lay eyes on my mother," said Zhang Junmin.

Another relative, who asked not to be identified, sent a Reuters reporter a picture from their hotel room showing three police cars parked outside, by way of explaining why they were too nervous to meet.

Aware of the sensitivity of the disaster, the ruling Communist Party's Politburo Standing Committee, China's apex of power, called on local authorities to take measures to help grieving families and to "earnestly safeguard social stability".

"NO COVER-UP"

Rescuers, many from the military, worked through the night to right the four-deck ship. Pictures on state television showed the ship, which had capsized completely, sitting upright in the water. Large dents and gashes scarred its blue roof.

Rescuers will continue searching for the victims as they bail out water from the ship for the next five to six hours, said Xu Chengguang, a spokesman for the transport ministry, at a news conference.

Dozens of relatives gathered in front of the crematorium, demanding to be allowed inside. Many carried bouquets of flowers.

The crematorium gates were manned by uniformed police, who initially refused to let them inside. They were later allowed in after foreign reporters arrived on a government-organized bus tour.

Relatives have asked the government to release the names of survivors and the confirmed deaths, and questioned why most of those rescued were crew members.

Some have demanded to know why the boat did not dock in the storm, and how the rescued captain and crew members had time to put on life vests but did not sound any alarm.

Beijing has pledged there would be "no cover-up" in the investigation.

Police have detained the captain and chief engineer for questioning, though authorities have given no details. An initial investigation found the ship was not overloaded and had enough life vests on board.

On Thursday, more than 200 divers had groped through murky water after cutting through the hull, searching every cabin on board, but found no more survivors.

(Additional reporting by Kim Kyung-Hoon and Engen Tham in SHANGHAI; Writing by Ben Blanchard and Sui-Lee Wee; Editing by Paul Tait and Jeremy Laurence)

Very interesting to hear how Chinese people talk about their government, this matches what I always hear from people when I'm in China (like now). What a contrast with the way PDF Chinese talk here.
 
Oh please, it is not going to cause a Color Revolution like you wanted.
 
Very interesting to hear how Chinese people talk about their government, this matches what I always hear from people when I'm in China (like now). What a contrast with the way PDF Chinese talk here.
what was the contrast? Oh wait, I get it, since most anti Chinese, not saying you are so much as anti, say no dissent, no anger can be lashed out.

Chinese are the same people as anyone else, they can't t be angry? Just because they are angry, doesn't mean this is the end of China as we know it.
 
what was the contrast? Oh wait, I get it, since most anti Chinese, not saying you are so much as anti, say no dissent, no anger can be lashed out.

Chinese are the same people as anyone else, they can't t be angry? Just because they are angry, doesn't mean this is the end of China as we know it.

The point is that the average chinese don't trust / like their government which is what I always hear in China.

Oh please, it is not going to cause a Color Revolution like you wanted.

Don't recall ever saying anything about a color revolution in China. Just showing the difference between the average chinese and the PDF chinese / wannabe chinese.
 
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The point is that the average chinese don't trust / like their government which is what I always hear in China.

I assume you met a second person before, do I really need to explain to you how people work. Who in their right mind trusts a third part completely and likes the government completely, anywhere.

The point is, is that enough to topple the government and flush the economy down the crapper, or is it just like America, you hate it when you hate it, and you love it when you love it, but most time you are just living and don't give a rats *** who sits on the funny chair.


Unless the point of your post is literally, not 100% of Chinese approves of the government 100% of the time, than yea, you are right, but a pointless post though, if it is.
 
I assume you met a second person before, do I really need to explain to you how people work. Who in their right mind trusts a third part completely and likes the government completely, anywhere.

The point is, is that enough to topple the government and flush the economy down the crapper, or is it just like America, you hate it when you hate it, and you love it when you love it, but most time you are just living and don't give a rats *** who sits on the funny chair.


Unless the point of your post is literally, not 100% of Chinese approves of the government 100% of the time, than yea, you are right, but a pointless post though, if it is.

You have a point of course, but there is definitely a big difference between the average chinese thinking and the PDF chinese thinking, that's my point.

You have quickly raised to the number 1 spot as my preferred PDF chinese poster to debate with. What a difference with most others. :tup:
 
You have a point of course, but there is definitely a big difference between the average chinese thinking and the PDF chinese thinking, that's my point.

You have quickly raised to the number 1 spot as my preferred PDF chinese poster to debate with. What a difference with most others. :tup:
Well, you got to think who actually comes up to these forums.

You got a Vietnamese guy screaming Vietnam must reunite all of South East Asia. We are all more or less nationalists. We, in a sense, are not average people.

Look at any nationality of posters, how representative are they of their population. Though it does make it interesting as we can debate the things, others don't care about.
 
Well, you got to think who actually comes up to these forums.

You got a Vietnamese guy screaming Vietnam must reunite all of South East Asia. We are all more or less nationalists. We, in a sense, are not average people.

Look at any nationality of posters, how representative are they of their population. Though it does make it interesting as we can debate the things, others don't care about.
The average Chinese are much more nationalistic than the average Chinese netizens in PDF. Actually I feel the atmosphere much more peaceful than a lot of Chinese forums.
 
You have a point of course, but there is definitely a big difference between the average chinese thinking and the PDF chinese thinking, that's my point.

You have quickly raised to the number 1 spot as my preferred PDF chinese poster to debate with. What a difference with most others. :tup:

It just show your weird. Every person may complain when he/she met the shit thing. After complaining certain issue, they still support most part of the govt. It seems none of spanish complian or oppose govt and king, right?
 
Very interesting to hear how Chinese people talk about their government, this matches what I always hear from people when I'm in China (like now). What a contrast with the way PDF Chinese talk here.

Yeah, a grieving relative is lashing out in anger. What a surprise! That must have some sort of politic meaning, it is not like it could be, I don't know, grieving people lashing out?! :crazy:

A few week earlier, there similar demands right after the Baltimore riots, for the government to release the report immediately and there are plenty of accusation going on for cover up. I am going to give the same response the Baltimore police and US government give on the subject: "It has only been a few days, investigation is still underway. Please kindly wait because we are not about to release a report without actually making the proper investigations first."
 
It just show your weird. Every person may complain when he/she met the shit thing. After complaining certain issue, they still support most part of the govt. It seems none of spanish complian or oppose govt and king, right?

The difference is, in Spain is legal to complain against the government, its a right that is protected. You can complain without having to worry about the police.
 
The difference is, in Spain is legal to complain against the government, its a right that is protected. You can complain without having to worry about the police.
Then why are you in communist Vietnam? Spain is more free.
 
The difference is, in Spain is legal to complain against the government, its a right that is protected. You can complain without having to worry about the police.

The diffrence is, in China, when people complain, govt will quickly react and try to improve their policy. in spain, you guys compain, govt still do theirs.
 
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