Eight Cobra Commandos killed in IED blast

[ranjeet]

May they rest in peace.

 

[shah1398]

LMAO.Naxal violence is decreasing each and every year since 2009.2015 and 2016 have seen the lowest casualties.


LMAO.Naxal violence is decreasing each and every year since 2009.2015 and 2016 have seen the lowest casualties.

Good to see you have put your head in sand.

Still Thriving With highest GDP growth rate In world Whats Pakistan I heard

So can U plz enlighten us that how has this thriving growth rate changed the lives of common people? By what percentage have the suicide rate of farmers decreased? How many jobs had been created so that now likes of PhDs dont apply for jobs like "Koolis" or Constables? How this thriving growth rate increased the happiness index of India where it still ranks 118 with the low growing Pakistan at 92.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...ays-latest-united-nations-report_1866509.html

http://www.thehindu.com/news/the-world-happiness-report-2016-india-ranked-118th/article8365329.ece

Here is how Levels of GDP among other factors is suppose to alleviate HI of a country as.

"In short, the researchers straight-up asked people to rank their own happiness. These answers are then weighted based on six other factors: levels of GDP, life expectancy, generosity, social support, freedom, and corruption."

As per

http://www.sciencealert.com/the-wor...6-just-ranked-the-happiest-countries-on-earth

Report is

http://worldhappiness.report/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/03/HR-V1_web.pdf

Conclusion: Stop comparing yourself with others to satisfy false ego, rather look inwards and face the reality.

 

[John Reese]

Good to see you have put your head in sand.


So can U plz enlighten us that how has this thriving growth rate changed the lives of common people? By what percentage have the suicide rate of farmers decreased? How many jobs had been created so that now likes of PhDs dont apply for jobs like "Koolis" or Constables? How this thriving growth rate increased the happiness index of India where it still ranks 118 with the low growing Pakistan at 92.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india...ays-latest-united-nations-report_1866509.html

http://www.thehindu.com/news/the-world-happiness-report-2016-india-ranked-118th/article8365329.ece

Here is how Levels of GDP among other factors is suppose to alleviate HI of a country as.

"In short, the researchers straight-up asked people to rank their own happiness. These answers are then weighted based on six other factors: levels of GDP, life expectancy, generosity, social support, freedom, and corruption."

As per

http://www.sciencealert.com/the-wor...6-just-ranked-the-happiest-countries-on-earth



http://worldhappiness.report/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2016/03/HR-V1_web.pdf

Conclusion: Stop comparing yourself with others to satisfy false ego, rather look inwards and face the reality.

World Happiness What This Instrument Never Seen use as Tool In EcoNomics By Any Reputed Economic Organisation Like IMF or World Bank Using It Instrument In Analysis of Economic Assessment

Social Prosperity Population of Country Depends Upon three Economic Factors GNI,HDI And Per Capita

Mainly Best tool Is too Which Judge Economic Prosperity Of Country is Human Development Index
Human development is defined as the process of enlarging people's freedoms and opportunities and improving their well-being. Human development is about the real freedom ordinary people have to decide who to be, what to do, and how to live. The human development concept was developed by economist Mahbub ul Haq.As pakistani Who get Nobel Prize for this

The HDI was created to emphasize that people and their capabilities should be the ultimate criteria for assessing the development of a country, not economic growth alone. The HDI can also be used to question national policy choices, asking how two countries with the same level of GNI per capita can end up with different human development outcomes. These contrasts can stimulate debate about government policy priorities.



The Human Development Index (HDI) is a summary measure of average achievement in key dimensions of human development: a long and healthy life, being knowledgeable and have a decent standard of living. The HDI is the geometric mean of normalized indices for each of the three dimensions.

The health dimension is assessed by life expectancy at birth, the education dimension is measured by mean of years of schooling for adults aged 25 years and more and expected years of schooling for children of school entering age. The standard of living dimension is measured by gross national income per capita. The HDI uses the logarithm of income, to reflect the diminishing importance of income with increasing GNI.

The HDI simplifies and captures only part of what human development entails. It does not reflect on inequalities, poverty, human security, empowerment, etc. The HDRO offers the other composite indices as broader proxy on some of the key issues of human development, inequality, gender disparity and human poverty.

AS for irrelevant Things There Wold Hunger Index Also The Global Hunger Index (GHI) is a multidimensional statistical tool used to describe the state of countries’ hunger situation. The GHI measures progress and failures in the global fight against hunger

 

[Moonlight]

As many Pakistanis are overjoyed

I see no Pakistani getting overjoyed with this news. We ain't you. I repeat we are NOT you. Or maybe your conscience is telling you what goes around comes around or in your words karma is hitting back??????

 

[Joe Shearer]

So you are suggesting you dont? Shall i post the statements of AJA Doval?

As for twisting my statements to suit your flavour i specifically said we should support the Naxals if India does not back off from supporting TTP and hosting Terrorists the likes of Balaach Pardili from Balochistan. Why not quote my full post? But than you wouldn't be able to twist that, knowing your kind well, i say it was expected.

http://pk.shafaqna.com/EN/15866

http://tribune.com.pk/story/970154/india-confirms-presence-of-bla-chief-hyrbyair-marri-in-new-delhi/

Incase you dont like the above links

http://www.thehindu.com/news/nation...f-baloch-activist-in-india/article7739733.ece

As for victim card, Indian terrorism in Pakistan is not a new thing, starting all the way from East Pakistan and now into Baluchistan and supporting TTP in Afghanistan to attack schools and military installations. So yeah save it, we know how low your kind can get and we shouldnt be hesitant in giving a response that matches it at least till the time India regains its senses.

Interesting.

So you agree that Pakistani sponsorship of Indian terrorism and insurgency precedes India's role in these areas?

 

[IceCold]

Interesting.

So you agree that Pakistani sponsorship of Indian terrorism and insurgency precedes India's role in these areas?

I agree? Hmm well it does not matter of my agreeing since 1st I am a nobody when it comes to state policy and second there is already a preconceived mind across the border. No matter what happens and where Pakistan is blamed. However this time not only the blame but also open threats of terrorism in Pakistan by indian officials. You will never find such a parallel in Pakistan, where a government official uses such remarks against India.
So maybe you should revisit your question and see if it's Pakistan role that preceds India or vice verse. 71 was one fine example. We have yet to repay that in kind.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I agree? Hmm well it does not matter of my agreeing since 1st I am a nobody when it comes to state policy and second there is already a preconceived mind across the border. No matter what happens and where Pakistan is blamed. However this time not only the blame but also open threats of terrorism in Pakistan by indian officials. You will never find such a parallel in Pakistan, where a government official uses such remarks against India.
So maybe you should revisit your question and see if it's Pakistan role that preceds India or vice verse. 71 was one fine example. We have yet to repay that in kind.

LOL.

Never mind the state policy part, chief, and never mind anybody else's preconceived notions. Also please get rid of the notion that all Indians automatically blame Pakistan; or, for that matter, the bizarre episode of Indian officials making open threats against Pakistan, instead of following the protocol well-established on your side, of going about your business and keeping quiet about it.

What are the facts? Did Pakistan intervene in Indian affairs before 1971, since you mention that year, or not?

I know what the answer to the question is; do you? A 'yes' or a 'no' will suffice.

 

[IceCold]

LOL.

Never mind the state policy part, chief, and never mind anybody else's preconceived notions. Also please get rid of the notion that all Indians automatically blame Pakistan; or, for that matter, the bizarre episode of Indian officials making open threats against Pakistan, instead of following the protocol well-established on your side, of going about your business and keeping quiet about it.

What are the facts? Did Pakistan intervene in Indian affairs before 1971, since you mention that year, or not?

I know what the answer to the question is; do you? A 'yes' or a 'no' will suffice.

If only it was that simple, I would have said yes or no. I take it you are referring to Pakistani involvement in Kashmir? But you have to ask is Kashmir an integral part of India? You might say yes in fact I know it would be a yes but for the rest of the world it wasn't. Also before Shimla agreement it was not a bilateral issue either. So any interference in Kashmir was not the same as Indian interference in East Pakistan because East Pakistan was never a disputed territory, just like Baluchistan isn't. Now when India interferes in those areas which even India does not consider disputed, what would you call that? Right terrorism. Kashmir and east Pakistan had no parallel. One was and still is a disputed territory while other was not.

 

[Grevion]

RIP to the dead. Hope sanity prevails and Naxalites refarin themselves from the armed struggle against the state.
Sad to see that this thread has again turned into a Indo vs Pak debate.

 

[Joe Shearer]

If only it was that simple, I would have said yes or no. I take it you are referring to Pakistani involvement in Kashmir? But you have to ask is Kashmir an integral part of India? You might say yes in fact I know it would be a yes but for the rest of the world it wasn't. Also before Shimla agreement it was not a bilateral issue either. So any interference in Kashmir was not the same as Indian interference in East Pakistan because East Pakistan was never a disputed territory, just like Baluchistan isn't.

Please calm down. I am not referring to Kashmir. I am making the point that Pakistan interfered with India earlier than in 1971, and other than in Kashmir.

Now when India interferes in those areas which even India does not consider disputed, what would you call that? Right terrorism. Kashmir and east Pakistan had no parallel. One was and still is a disputed territory while other was not.

I can only suggest a quiet thought about things. Don't feel cornered; it's nothing personal, and I don't think Pakistanis are criminals because a rogue intelligence agency acts in a criminal way.

Just look at the question and examine the evidence to which you have access and say 'yes' or 'no'.

There is a point that I am leading up to.

 

[IceCold]

Please calm down. I am not referring to Kashmir. I am making the point that Pakistan interfered with India earlier than in 1971, and other than in Kashmir.




I can only suggest a quiet thought about things. Don't feel cornered; it's nothing personal, and I don't think Pakistanis are criminals because a rogue intelligence agency acts in a criminal way.

Just look at the question and examine the evidence to which you have access and say 'yes' or 'no'.

There is a point that I am leading up to.

If you have a point sire now would be a good time to make it. I am on mobile and it's really a hassle to type without making grammar or spelling mistakes. I will try to counter them whenever I can get hold of a system.

 

[Joe Shearer]

If you have a point sire now would be a good time to make it. I am on mobile and it's really a hassle to type without making grammar or spelling mistakes. I will try to counter them whenever I can get hold of a system.

So sorry, didn't mean to be such a pain.

The thing is that when Z. A. Khan was sent off to the erstwhile East Pakistan in the middle of the troubles, one of his postings was in Chittagong, where he was astonished to find a contingent of armed and very well disciplined Mizos in the keeping of the intelligence agencies. The Mizo uprising happened five years earlier and died down soon after Bangladesh.

My point being that the spooks were up to no good independent of Kashmir, and LONG before Bangladesh.

Sorry for the roundaboutation. I was being mischievous.

 

[The SC]

Well, the Taliban Pigs will cry and shit themselves like how Wani did when they come face to face with our forces, like all other pigs.

Why you never sent your forces to fight Taliban face to face if you really wanted to help your "friend Afghanistan" and at the same time show the world your " bravado", maybe you think you are better that Russians and Americans.. at least these have tried their luck, what about your supermen?

 

[IceCold]

So sorry, didn't mean to be such a pain.

The thing is that when Z. A. Khan was sent off to the erstwhile East Pakistan in the middle of the troubles, one of his postings was in Chittagong, where he was astonished to find a contingent of armed and very well disciplined Mizos in the keeping of the intelligence agencies. The Mizo uprising happened five years earlier and died down soon after Bangladesh.

My point being that the spooks were up to no good independent of Kashmir, and LONG before Bangladesh.

Sorry for the roundaboutation. I was being mischievous.

I see. I have no recalling of such events. A neutral link to support your claim would be appreciated. As far as i can tell even India never accused Pakistan of interfering in its rebellious movements or sponsoring them. I know we are accused of almost everything from terrorism to fake money and Kashmir Insurgency but this, well its new to me. Anyway since you pointed out I went through wiki and it says Pu Laldenga ( i hope i spelled it write) visited East Pakistan and were offered arms by us in the 60s. This was all supposedly happen during 65 war of India and Pakistan and then dramatically both leaders were killed in some accident bomb blast. Anyway this is the story on Wiki and we all know how credible that is.

Coming to your earlier post which I wasn't able to address so i tend to do it now without the original quotes. Hope you dont mind.
You say you dont consider Pakistanis to be criminals just because its intelligence acts in a criminal way, but the thing is that the intelligence agency in question is also made of those same Pakistanis that you think are not criminals, there is a discord in these two statements of yours. Also earlier i did said about preconceived mind, blaming Pakistan and ISI for almost everything, dont you think you just proved that by making a statement like that. For Indians its always the ISI, it has to be ISI, never anybody else. From government to media everybody knows its ISI and that too happens right within the next 5 to 10 minutes of every incident. You guys even blamed us for attack on Bangladesh which latter proved to be wrong and an egg on the face of all those who believe in this.
Heck when the criminal Pakistan and its criminal intelligence agency shared intelligence about a possible attack on India, even that was taken with full suspicion and made to look as if Pakistan was trying to protect its so called assets and hence leaking the news. Damn if we do Damn if we dont.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I see. I have no recalling of such events. A neutral link to support your claim would be appreciated. As far as i can tell even India never accused Pakistan of interfering in its rebellious movements or sponsoring them. I know we are accused of almost everything from terrorism to fake money and Kashmir Insurgency but this, well its new to me. Anyway since you pointed out I went through wiki and it says Pu Laldenga ( i hope i spelled it write) visited East Pakistan and were offered arms by us in the 60s. This was all supposedly happen during 65 war of India and Pakistan and then dramatically both leaders were killed in some accident bomb blast. Anyway this is the story on Wiki and we all know how credible that is.

Brigadier Z. A. Khan, "The Way It Was". I love that book and the author's inimitable style; terse to the point of parody. Really well written, in a disillusioned but lucid style that beggars description.

Please don't take this in any other sense than pointing out a real development. Both sides have committed enough of these things on each other for us not to parade our superior moral positions. I make no claim to anything but to establishing a fact.

What happened, as you will read in the book, is that Khan, asked to take over an SSG contingent, had to fight off various commanders of regular troops trying to get the commandos to pull their chestnuts out of the fire, and landed up in Chittagong. There he encountered these Mizo contingents - but the rest you can read for yourself.

Coming to your earlier post which I wasn't able to address so i tend to do it now without the original quotes. Hope you dont mind.
You say you dont consider Pakistanis to be criminals just because its intelligence acts in a criminal way, but the thing is that the intelligence agency in question is also made of those same Pakistanis that you think are not criminals, there is a discord in these two statements of yours.

Perhaps I should have elaborated.

Even the most decent, upright Pakistani, when serving in certain institutions and positions, have displayed conformity with the norms and practices of those institutions and those positions. There must have been dozens who did not conform, Brigadier Khan, for instance, but I was referring to these examples of the ones that did conform.

Also earlier i did said about preconceived mind, blaming Pakistan and ISI for almost everything, dont you think you just proved that by making a statement like that. For Indians its always the ISI, it has to be ISI, never anybody else. From government to media everybody knows its ISI and that too happens right within the next 5 to 10 minutes of every incident. You guys even blamed us for attack on Bangladesh which latter proved to be wrong and an egg on the face of all those who believe in this.

Please check my posts.

I admit that there is a certain amount of demonising going on, on both sides. I sometimes find it hard to contain my laughter at the impression that some very young Pakistanis have about the capabilities of RAW. Perhaps knowing some of them is a barrier to taking them too seriously.

Heck when the criminal Pakistan and its criminal intelligence agency shared intelligence about a possible attack on India, even that was taken with full suspicion and made to look as if Pakistan was trying to protect its so called assets and hence leaking the news. Damn if we do Damn if we dont.

I am sorry that this has upset you. That was not the intention. Perhaps we should move on to something else. This is not working very well. It was meant to be a light-hearted jibe.