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I have noticed that the main thread for Egypt has been deleted as if nothing is going in Egypt. This isn't entirely true and there are daily events in Egypt taking place.

This will be the main thread for any news related to Egyptian domestic affairs. Particularly following the military coup.
 
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Ammar Al-Beltagi recounts details of his sister's murder in Rabaa

Ammar Al-Beltagi, brother of the martyred activist Asmaa, narrated new details on the aftermath of her death.
"I was outside the Rabaa Square," he told Al-Jazeera yesterday, "and I was not by sister's side in her last moments, but I entered the square after she was martyred."

Ammar confirmed that not all exits were safe, and that most exits were under heavy gunfire from police and army snipers.

Asked whether there were safe exits to transfer the corpse of his dead sister out of the square, Ammar said that he and a number of friends were not able to leave the square with his sister's corpse until 5pm. He and another friend tried to carry her and leave from behind the Rabaa mosque only to be spotted by a sniper who opened fire at them until the corpse fell on the ground. They had to stand away from the corpse to escape the gunfire.

Moreover, while they were taking cover from the bullets, an armoured vehicle hit the corpse while it was lying on the ground. Soldiers disembarked from the vehicle and entered the square. Only then were Ammar and his friend able to carry Asmaa's corpse and leave the square.

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Deaths as Egypt's Rabaa killings marked - Middle East - Al Jazeera English

Four people have been killed in Cairo during protests to mark the first anniversary of the Rabaa crackdown in which at least 1,000 people died.

The protesters were shot dead as Egyptian security forces on Thursday dispersed hundreds of supporters of the ousted president, Mohamed Morsi, who had blocked several highways and roads in Cairo and Giza.

It was the first anniversary of the violent Rabaa al-Adawiya and Nahda Square sit-ins last year.

Human Rights Watch released a report on Tuesday that said last years' killings at the two protest camps were crimes against humanity.

HRW called for an international inquiry, urging the United Nations to look into six incidents involving killings of protesters by security forces.

Kenneth Roth, executive director of the New York-based rights group, and HRW Middle East director Sarah Leah Whitson, were denied entry into the country on Monday.

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Idiots laying their lives down for no reason. Sit in your house and work hard so your country perseveres.
 
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The First Communique of the Popular Resistance Movement

The first statement of a new youth anti-coup resistance group was released yesterday on the memory of the first anniversary of the Rabaa massacre. The group is formed of a wide spectrum of Egyptians, including Islamists, liberals and individuals. It has been quiet for months, working secretly, until they formed a unity movement under the banner of resistance and jihad. The first statement was delivered by an unnamed young man whose face was not shown, dressed in a black jacket and gloves, in an obvious attempt to hide his identity.

The statement delivered narrates as follows:

Since the situation is getting worse, and since injustice, darkness and destruction is widespread, and in the shadow of the absence of retribution against the murderers of the freedom revolutionaries since January 25 until today, we the men, the men of Egypt, have decided to confront the stubborn Mubarak regime with all we possess of popular support and with all advanced methods.

It may raise eyebrows that our first communique is released on the first anniversary of the storming of the Rabaa and Al-Nahda sit-ins. To prevent our lousy media from jumping to all sorts of conclusions, we would like to say the following:

This entity, which we are launching today officially under the name of The Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt, is the fruit of several months of effort, prior to any anniversary that saw the start of our resistance against the despotic military rule in Egypt. This was the outcome of knowing that two revolutions have not been sufficient to bring about change. The first was disrupted while the other was aborted. A counterrevolution was superimposed. We knew we had to sacrifice more blood in order to earn a decent living and we had to ride on more thorns in order to enjoy freedom, and we had to pay a big price in order to gain social justice.

Proclaiming this new resistance entity is a purely Egyptian desire to unite the efforts of Egyptians who are resisting across the country for one principal objective and using similar methods and various decentralised entities.

O free resistance men

Your movement, the Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt, conveys to you in its first communique the good news of the coming together of several groups that engage in deterring the military in the Cairo Governorate. They have united under the name of: Martyr Muhammad Helmi Groups - Cairo. We promise to keep you updated through new communiques to tell you the good news soon from all governorates, God-willing. The first news comes today of a quality operation executed by the Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt.

O people

We fear Allah and we shall not seek to incur his wrath. We proceed confidently ahead with what we have of the painful tools of popular resistance, tools that will strip the murderers who have taken control of the destiny of the nation of the tools of murder and will deny them sleep, comfort and happiness, and will deny them the false victories they delude each other about.

We shall not remain silent regarding the murder weapons they use to slit the throats of our people nor shall we remain indifferent regarding the hunger they have imposed on all of us while the murderers lavish in their palaces and castles hiding from us behind their guards.

Whoever from among the thugs stays inside his home, he is safe; whoever from among the military dogs stays in his palace, he is safe; and whoever attacks, let him then blame none but himself.

We shall seek to do the impossible until the demands of this generation are met. We shall pay willingly with our blood until we crush the lackeys of Israel. Retribution for the martyrs is our right, and we shall eventually attain it. So long as people seek their rights, their rights will not be lost.

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Idiots laying their lives down for no reason. Sit in your house and work hard so your country perseveres.

The only idiot here is you. There is a legitimate struggle bigger than your pea-sized brain which you will never be able to comprehend. You are no different than all dictators/police states of history and modern day which criminalize demonstrations to achieve justice.

Way to disrespect peoples lives. Your suggestion is to submit and surrender to human beings seizing the throne. That is no 'advice', you're enabling injustice and other major players in injustice in the region.
 
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The First Communique of the Popular Resistance Movement

The first statement of a new youth anti-coup resistance group was released yesterday on the memory of the first anniversary of the Rabaa massacre. The group is formed of a wide spectrum of Egyptians, including Islamists, liberals and individuals. It has been quiet for months, working secretly, until they formed a unity movement under the banner of resistance and jihad. The first statement was delivered by an unnamed young man whose face was not shown, dressed in a black jacket and gloves, in an obvious attempt to hide his identity.

The statement delivered narrates as follows:

Since the situation is getting worse, and since injustice, darkness and destruction is widespread, and in the shadow of the absence of retribution against the murderers of the freedom revolutionaries since January 25 until today, we the men, the men of Egypt, have decided to confront the stubborn Mubarak regime with all we possess of popular support and with all advanced methods.

It may raise eyebrows that our first communique is released on the first anniversary of the storming of the Rabaa and Al-Nahda sit-ins. To prevent our lousy media from jumping to all sorts of conclusions, we would like to say the following:

This entity, which we are launching today officially under the name of The Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt, is the fruit of several months of effort, prior to any anniversary that saw the start of our resistance against the despotic military rule in Egypt. This was the outcome of knowing that two revolutions have not been sufficient to bring about change. The first was disrupted while the other was aborted. A counterrevolution was superimposed. We knew we had to sacrifice more blood in order to earn a decent living and we had to ride on more thorns in order to enjoy freedom, and we had to pay a big price in order to gain social justice.

Proclaiming this new resistance entity is a purely Egyptian desire to unite the efforts of Egyptians who are resisting across the country for one principal objective and using similar methods and various decentralised entities.

O free resistance men

Your movement, the Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt, conveys to you in its first communique the good news of the coming together of several groups that engage in deterring the military in the Cairo Governorate. They have united under the name of: Martyr Muhammad Helmi Groups - Cairo. We promise to keep you updated through new communiques to tell you the good news soon from all governorates, God-willing. The first news comes today of a quality operation executed by the Popular Resistance Movement - Egypt.

O people

We fear Allah and we shall not seek to incur his wrath. We proceed confidently ahead with what we have of the painful tools of popular resistance, tools that will strip the murderers who have taken control of the destiny of the nation of the tools of murder and will deny them sleep, comfort and happiness, and will deny them the false victories they delude each other about.

We shall not remain silent regarding the murder weapons they use to slit the throats of our people nor shall we remain indifferent regarding the hunger they have imposed on all of us while the murderers lavish in their palaces and castles hiding from us behind their guards.

Whoever from among the thugs stays inside his home, he is safe; whoever from among the military dogs stays in his palace, he is safe; and whoever attacks, let him then blame none but himself.

We shall seek to do the impossible until the demands of this generation are met. We shall pay willingly with our blood until we crush the lackeys of Israel. Retribution for the martyrs is our right, and we shall eventually attain it. So long as people seek their rights, their rights will not be lost.

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The only idiot here is you. There is a legitimate struggle bigger than your pea-sized brain which you will never be able to comprehend. You are no different than all dictators/police states of history and modern day which criminalize demonstrations to achieve justice.

Way to disrespect peoples lives. Your suggestion is to submit and surrender to human beings seizing the throne. That is no 'advice', you're enabling injustice and other major players in injustice in the region.

Sisi is better for Egyptian economy. Therein lies the way for the country to succeed in this world. You and your religious rants fall on deaf ears here.
 
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Amnesty International | Egypt: Rampant torture, arbitrary arrests and detentions signal catastrophic decline in human rights one year after ousting of Morsi

Egypt: Rampant torture, arbitrary arrests and detentions signal catastrophic decline in human rights one year after ousting of Morsi
  • At least 16,000 detained and at least 80 deaths in custody recorded in past year
  • Torture and other ill-treatment in detention continues unabated
  • Fair trial standards routinely flouted
A surge in arbitrary arrests, detentions and harrowing incidents of torture and deaths in police custody recorded by Amnesty International provide strong evidence of the sharp deterioration in human rights in Egypt in the year since President Mohamed Morsi was ousted.

Thousands of people have been detained, with figures varying. According to official estimates published by the Associated Press in March, at least 16,000 people have been detained over the past year as part of a sweeping crackdown against Mohamed Morsi’s supporters and other groups and activists that have expressed dissent. According to WikiThawra, an initiative run by the Egyptian Center for Economic and Social rights, at least 80 people have died in custody over the past year and more than 40,000 people were detained or indicted between July 2013 and mid-May 2014.

Reports of torture and enforced disappearances in police and military detention facilities are also widespread.

“Egypt’s notorious state security forces –currently known as National Security- are back and operating at full capacity, employing the same methods of torture and other ill-treatment used during the darkest hours of the Mubarak era,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, Deputy Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

“Despite repeated promises by current and former presidents to respect the rule of law, over the past year flagrant violations have continued at an astonishing rate, with security forces effectively granted a free rein to commit human rights violations with impunity.”

Torture and other ill-treatment

Amnesty International has gathered damning evidence indicating that torture is routine in police stations and unofficial places of detention, with members of the Muslim Brotherhood and their supporters particularly targeted. It is carried out by both the Egyptian military and police including in premises belonging to the National Security Agency, in many cases with the objective of obtaining confessions or to force detainees to implicate others.

Among the methods of torture employed are techniques previously used by state security during Mubarak’s rule. These include the use of electric shocks, rape, handcuffing detainees and suspending them from open doors. Another hanging method, known as “the grill”, involves handcuffing the detainee’s hands and legs to an iron rod and suspending the rod between two opposite chairs until the detainee’s legs go numb. Security forces then start using electric shocks on the person’s legs.

One of the most shocking cases documented by Amnesty International was that of M.R.S , 23, a student arrested in February 2014 near Nasr City in Cairo. He said he was held for 47 days and was tortured and raped during his interrogation. He is currently out of prison but the case is still pending.

“They cut my shirt, blindfolded me with it and handcuffed me from behind…they beat me with batons all over my body, particularly on the chest, back and face…Then they put two wires in my left and right little fingers and gave me electric shocks four or five times,” he said.

He also gave a horrifying account of how he was sexually assaulted and raped.

“The national security officer caught my testicle and started to squeeze it… I was screaming from the pain and bent my legs to protect my testicles then he inserted his fingers in my anus… he was wearing something plastic on his fingers… he repeated this five times,” he said.

He also reported being beaten on the penis with a stick. He was then raped repeatedly by one or more security guards before being forced to sing a song in support of the Egyptian army “Teslam Al Ayadi”.

In another case, Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed Hussein, an 18-year-old student, was arrested on his way home on the third anniversary of the 2011 uprising in El Mareg, Cairo at noon. He believes he was singled out for wearing a shirt bearing a logo of the “25 January Revolution” and a scarf with a slogan of the “Nation without Torture” campaign. He was blindfolded and forced into “confessing” to possessing explosives and belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood after hours of being beaten, subjected to electric shocks, including on the testicles, and being interrogated by national security officers. Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed Hussein remains in prison.

“Day after day harrowing accounts of torture are emerging while the authorities flat out deny any abuse and go as far as labelling Egyptian prisons as hotels,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui.

“If the Egyptian authorities wish to salvage any credibility, such horrendous practices must be stopped immediately.”

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Sisi is better for Egyptian economy. Therein lies the way for the country to succeed in this world. You and your religious rants fall on deaf ears here.

No, he isn't better for the economy. The economy is a lost cause. I have no 'religious rants' here. You're the only hater who despises people for supporting Islamic values. Even though that has nothing to do with this thread you've already brought it up. Trying to put off anyone who has different views as 'nutjobs'. That's not constructive at all.

If you do it one more time I bringing the mods here. Seriously, try to be constructive for once you God hater.
 
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Amnesty International | Egypt: Rampant torture, arbitrary arrests and detentions signal catastrophic decline in human rights one year after ousting of Morsi

Egypt: Rampant torture, arbitrary arrests and detentions signal catastrophic decline in human rights one year after ousting of Morsi
  • At least 16,000 detained and at least 80 deaths in custody recorded in past year
  • Torture and other ill-treatment in detention continues unabated
  • Fair trial standards routinely flouted
A surge in arbitrary arrests, detentions and harrowing incidents of torture and deaths in police custody recorded by Amnesty International provide strong evidence of the sharp deterioration in human rights in Egypt in the year since President Mohamed Morsi was ousted.

Thousands of people have been detained, with figures varying. According to official estimates published by the Associated Press in March, at least 16,000 people have been detained over the past year as part of a sweeping crackdown against Mohamed Morsi’s supporters and other groups and activists that have expressed dissent. According to WikiThawra, an initiative run by the Egyptian Center for Economic and Social rights, at least 80 people have died in custody over the past year and more than 40,000 people were detained or indicted between July 2013 and mid-May 2014.

Reports of torture and enforced disappearances in police and military detention facilities are also widespread.

“Egypt’s notorious state security forces –currently known as National Security- are back and operating at full capacity, employing the same methods of torture and other ill-treatment used during the darkest hours of the Mubarak era,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui, Deputy Director of the Middle East and North Africa Programme at Amnesty International.

“Despite repeated promises by current and former presidents to respect the rule of law, over the past year flagrant violations have continued at an astonishing rate, with security forces effectively granted a free rein to commit human rights violations with impunity.”

Torture and other ill-treatment

Amnesty International has gathered damning evidence indicating that torture is routine in police stations and unofficial places of detention, with members of the Muslim Brotherhood and their supporters particularly targeted. It is carried out by both the Egyptian military and police including in premises belonging to the National Security Agency, in many cases with the objective of obtaining confessions or to force detainees to implicate others.

Among the methods of torture employed are techniques previously used by state security during Mubarak’s rule. These include the use of electric shocks, rape, handcuffing detainees and suspending them from open doors. Another hanging method, known as “the grill”, involves handcuffing the detainee’s hands and legs to an iron rod and suspending the rod between two opposite chairs until the detainee’s legs go numb. Security forces then start using electric shocks on the person’s legs.

One of the most shocking cases documented by Amnesty International was that of M.R.S , 23, a student arrested in February 2014 near Nasr City in Cairo. He said he was held for 47 days and was tortured and raped during his interrogation. He is currently out of prison but the case is still pending.

“They cut my shirt, blindfolded me with it and handcuffed me from behind…they beat me with batons all over my body, particularly on the chest, back and face…Then they put two wires in my left and right little fingers and gave me electric shocks four or five times,” he said.

He also gave a horrifying account of how he was sexually assaulted and raped.

“The national security officer caught my testicle and started to squeeze it… I was screaming from the pain and bent my legs to protect my testicles then he inserted his fingers in my anus… he was wearing something plastic on his fingers… he repeated this five times,” he said.

He also reported being beaten on the penis with a stick. He was then raped repeatedly by one or more security guards before being forced to sing a song in support of the Egyptian army “Teslam Al Ayadi”.

In another case, Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed Hussein, an 18-year-old student, was arrested on his way home on the third anniversary of the 2011 uprising in El Mareg, Cairo at noon. He believes he was singled out for wearing a shirt bearing a logo of the “25 January Revolution” and a scarf with a slogan of the “Nation without Torture” campaign. He was blindfolded and forced into “confessing” to possessing explosives and belonging to the Muslim Brotherhood after hours of being beaten, subjected to electric shocks, including on the testicles, and being interrogated by national security officers. Mahmoud Mohamed Ahmed Hussein remains in prison.

“Day after day harrowing accounts of torture are emerging while the authorities flat out deny any abuse and go as far as labelling Egyptian prisons as hotels,” said Hassiba Hadj Sahraoui.

“If the Egyptian authorities wish to salvage any credibility, such horrendous practices must be stopped immediately.”

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No, he isn't better for the economy. The economy is a lost cause. I have no 'religious rants' here. You're the only hater who despises people for supporting Islamic values. Even though that has nothing to do with this thread you've already brought it up. Trying to put off anyone who has different views as 'nutjobs'. That's not constructive at all.

If you do it one more time I bringing the mods here. Seriously, try to be constructive for once you God hater.

Hahah God hater? Buzz of you terror sympathizing buffoon. MB is a terror org, certified. The Egyptians support Sisi (majority). Yes i do not support Islam in politics, because it is mis used. Just like Hamas does, just like MB did, just like KSA Islmic values are, Irans aswell and the hypocrisy in the mullas of my country.

Call on a mod, just because i do not agree with your viewpoint I'm a God hater? Please.
 
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Egypt is in the grip of a violent tyranny – with the west’s backing | Owen Jones | Comment is free | theguardian.com

For a westerner, Tiananmen Square instantly conjures up the horror of a tyrannous dictatorship turning its military might against its own people; of the lone man, shopping bags in his hands, standing defiantly against the approaching People’s Liberation Army tanks. I doubt many of us have even heard of the Rabaa al-Aadawiya Square in Cairo, where more than 1,000 protestors were massacred by Egypt’s military and police last August. This “indiscriminate and deliberate use of lethal force”, according to Human Rights Watch, represents “one of the world’s largest killings of demonstrators in a single day in recent history”, and probably exceeds the horror of Tiananmen.

The Human Rights Watch report is a frightening indictment of the regime that overthrew the Muslim Brotherhood president, Mohamed Morsi, last July. There were at least five separate incidents of “mass protestor killings” in the two months that followed – “many of Egypt’s public squares and streets were awash with blood.” As well as violating international human rights law, Human Rights Watch judged that these massacres “likely amounted to crimes against humanity” on the grounds of their “widespread and systematic nature”, as well as evidence suggesting these killings “were part of a policy to attack unarmed persons on political grounds”.

This was no heavy-handed response to an aggressive demonstration, but a planned campaign of terror against opponents of the new regime. In a sign that Cairo will not tolerate any scrutiny of its bloody clampdown on dissent, Egypt’s government has responded by claiming that Human Rights Watch’s investigation was illegal and that its activities “constitute a flagrant violation of state sovereignty under international law”. Its plea is to be left to kill without any embarrassment.

The bloodshed in Gaza has understandably exercised western public opinion, not least because of the role of western governments in arming and backing Israel’s administration. But the west is no less complicit in the atrocities committed by Egypt’s regime, now fronted by president Abdel Fatah al-Sisi. Egypt receives $1.5bn (almost £900m) of military aid a year from the US, and in June the Obama administration released $575m of aid that had been frozen in the aftermath of the coup. Britain resumed its sale of arms to Egypt in November.

One of al-Sisi’s advisers is none other than Tony Blair, a man whose repeated work for dictators – such as Kazakhstan’s human rights-abusing regime – should surely leave him with the permanent title of “Britain’s disgraced former prime minister”. As Human Rights Watch’s executive director, Kenneth Roth, put it – after he was deported from Egypt earlier this week: “The message sent so far is that Egypt can get away with mass murder.”

Too little has been said about Egypt’s human rights crisis. More than 40,000 people were detained or indicted in the first 10 months after the coup and, according to Amnesty International, the regime is using methods of torture from “the darkest days of the Hosni Mubarak era”. With “rampant torture, arbitrary arrests and detentions”, there has been a “catastrophic decline in human rights”. There have been claims of rape against male political dissidents; the use of electrocution, including on prisoners’ testicles; and in one case, a hot steel rod was inserted in the anus of a dissident who later died.

It is not just members of the Muslim Brotherhood – now banned as a terrorist organisation – who have been repressed. Three prominent leaders of the initial revolution that overthrew Mubarak’s regime in 2011 have been locked up for three years. Leftwing activists, such as Alaa Abd El Fattah, have been put on trial for “unauthorised protests”. Despite al-Sisi’s attempts to buttress his regime with democratic legitimacy, just 47.5% of Egyptians voted in the June election.

Egypt is in the grip of a violent tyranny that brooks little dissent. And just as the west is complicit in Israel’s attack on Gaza, it equally shares some responsibility for the actions of Egypt’s regime.

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Hahah God hater? Buzz of you terror sympathizing buffoon. MB is a terror org, certified. The Egyptians support Sisi (majority). Yes i do not support Islam in politics, because it is mis used. Just like Hamas does, just like MB did, just like KSA Islmic values are, Irans aswell and the hypocrisy in the mullas of my country.

Call on a mod, just because i do not agree with your viewpoint I'm a God hater? Please.

Again, no such thing as 'constructive' criticism here. Just vile attacks and meaningless rhetoric to appease your Israeli masters. You're attacking me for no reason at all. Just because I believe in God suddenly that makes me a 'religious ranter' , etc...

I don't care about your views smart guy, I want you to constructively tell me why you are against any popular movements in Egypt or against demonstrations in Egypt conducted by Muslims, Liberals, others, etc....

Calling them 'idiots' is not constructive. Or saying a social movement is a 'terror' org. because Israel/Sisi/Saudi Arabia said so.This isn't about the Muslim Brotherhood as much as you try framing it that way.

The one who needs to buzz and stop polluting this thread is you.
 
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Again, no such thing as 'constructive' criticism here. Just vile attacks and meaningless rhetoric to appease your Israeli masters. You're attacking me for no reason at all. Just because I believe in God suddenly that makes me a 'religious ranter' , etc...

I don't care about your views smart guy, I want you to constructively tell me why you are against any popular movements in Egypt or against demonstrations in Egypt conducted by Muslims, Liberals, others, etc....

Calling them 'idiots' is not constructive. Or saying a social movement is a 'terror' org. because Israel/Sisi/Saudi Arabia said so.This isn't about the Muslim Brotherhood as much as you try framing it that way.

The one who needs to buzz and stop polluting this thread is you.

Hahahahahah wtf? How is Israel my master? Wut? I hate KSA Saud prolly more thn you. But i do understand the position of Egyptians from the hell that they bring under the guise of Islam. Seen it in my country.

Plus the Egyptian posters support SISI here, what do you have a problem with?
 
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Hahahahahah wtf? How is Israel my master? Wut? I hate KSA Saud prolly more thn you. But i do understand the position of Egyptians from the hell that they bring under the guise of Islam. Seen it in my country.

Plus the Egyptian posters support SISI here, what do you have a problem with?

Because a few secular Egyptian posters here support him that means we must all do so? What are you trying to suggest? I will support him once he wins support. There are Egyptians who don't support him on this forum. That is meaningless.

This isn't about any Islamic conspiracy here. And there's no parallel to Pakistani internal affairs and the ones of Egypt.

I am an Arab and care about the Arab world as a whole. The whole Arab world is interconnected and we must achieve many objectives in unity for anything to get better for us.

The current Western/Israeli policy in the region is to divide the Middle East up. It has been this way for decades and it proves to be effective till this day. We know this, and we are going to retrieve victory for our people.

I'm no stupid person who thinks AQ will do that for us. Don't prejudge me.
 
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Because a few secular Egyptian posters here support him that means we must all do so? What are you trying to suggest? I will support him once he wins support. There are Egyptians who don't support him on this forum. That is meaningless.

This isn't about any Islamic conspiracy here. And there's no parallel to Pakistani internal affairs and the ones of Egypt.
el sisi won the elections and the protests in 30 6 were the largest in history in Egypt they (the brotherhood) managed to make everyone hate them more than the old regime they are something from the past now we are on the right path even with the hard economic reforms the people are supporting the government and their numbers are fewer every week
 
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el sisi won the elections and the protests in 30 6 were the largest in history in Egypt they (the brotherhood) managed to make everyone hate them more than the old regime they are something from the past now we are on the right path even with the hard economic reforms the people are supporting the government and their numbers are fewer every week

Everyone knows he won the election with 96.1%. For those who want to believe that, have at it. That isn't the point here. Morsi also won the election with 51%. During his terms critics were evaluating his performance and what he could bring to Egypt. One year into his term those critics called for a military coup. And you supported their right to criticize him.

Remember, when I told you that I and other critics will also evaluate Sisi in the same exact way? And you had no problem with that. Great then.

I am doing just that in this thread. You seem like you want to deny me that right.
 
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