Chak Bamu
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You are vastly mistaken if you think that democracy can be established without any sacrifices. What part of the phrase "Deep State" do you not understand?
You support the Army that killed its own people. You talk of performance? Why do you not judge the God Damned Egyptain Army on the same effing scale that you are using for a legitimate and democratically elected government? You are saying that Egyptians should just work for their country under Sisi. What would they accomplish? Get more Saudi aid and influence? Get more of the same as under Mubarak? I doubt that Egypt would ever come up to even second world standards. There would be another round of people standing up for their rights. What would happen then?
Just type these words and google: Egypt Deep State Democracy, and see what comes up. Your irrelevant rants should then stop.
Since I know your opinionated self is not going to do as I ask, I am presenting few of the results on the first page here. These are just the opening paragraphs of the articles. Sobering reading it is indeed. But I doubt if you would sober up.
Egypt: return of the deep state | openDemocracy
Egypt: return of the deep state
ECKART WOERTZ 20 January 2014
With the referendum the military secures its privileges, but its main challenge is the economic crisis.
If someone fell into a coma in 2011 before the Egyptian “revolution” and woke up today he or she would not notice many changes. Then as now a general ruled, the opposition was illegal or curtailed, elections were managed, the turnout was low, but results were stellar. With the 98 per cent approval of the new constitution by only 39 per cent of voters the deep state is back in Egypt. In a way it was never gone. When Mubarak became untenable the army let him fall in order to preserve its vested interests. During their short rein the Muslim Brotherhood and President Mohamed Morsi never managed to penetrate the pillars of the ancien regime, the Ministry of Interior, the judiciary and the military.
Egypt’s deep state rediscovers itself | openDemocracy
Egypt’s deep state rediscovers itself
AMR OSMAN 19 June 2014
It is now evident that the coup has not taken Egypt any step closer to a 'real state' where the supreme authority lies within its elected legislature, issuing laws and holding the government to account. On the contrary, the coup has deepened the roots of the deep state, resulting in an entity that is far from modern.
If there is anything positive in the events in Egypt since the military’s junta against its elected president on 3 July 2013, it would be the exposure of what has conventionally come to be called the 'deep state', which is a result of this deep state rediscovering itself.
Egypt: death and the deep state | Editorial | Comment is free | The Guardian
Egypt: death and the deep state
The numbers alone are staggering: an Egyptian court in the city of Minya on Monday sentenced 529 supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood to death for their alleged role in the killing of a policeman. They were convicted after just two court sessions, most in absentia and without being allowed to present a defence. On Tuesday a further 683 members of the Brotherhood, including its leader, Mohammed Badie, will face similar charges in the same city. Although many of these sentences are likely to be commuted when the defendants reach the last stage of Egyptian justice and are brought before the grand mufti, legal experts cannot recall a court coming to such draconian conclusions on such a scale. It will send a shudder through those who once cheered on the Egyptian revolution and imagined the country was on the path to democracy.
There are now so many political prisoners in Egypt that its jails are close to bursting.
Shallow Democracy v. Deep State: An Archaeology of the Crisis in Egypt
Crisis in Egypt
BY MUSA AL-GHARBI
– 21 AUGUST 2013POSTED IN: EGYPT, IN-DEPTH, SAUDI ARABIA
A week after carrying out his ultimatum to depose President Mursi, General al-Sisi delivered a new 48-hour ultimatum to those alienated by his actions to end their protests against the military coup. Even as the general demanded that the protesters end their demonstrations, he called upon his own supporters to take to the streetsnationwide in order to give the army a “mandate” to confront its critics, whom he referred to as “terrorists.” This call to action was later parroted by Egypt’s interim president (a high-ranking member of the disgraced Mubarak regime, hand-picked by Gen. al-Sisi) and the tamarod “rebels.” Of course, this supposed license is ironic given that one of the common criticisms of President Mursi is that he overstepped his popular mandate—despite the overwhelming victory of his party in parliamentary elections, and its subsequent win in the presidential race. Apparently, while democratic elections do not empower their victors with a strong mandate, protests can give the SCAF legitimacy to do anything—first to commit a coup against Egypt’s first democratically-elected president less than a year into his term, and now it seems to restore the Mubarak-era police state.
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702303734204577468642662667770
The Return of Egypt's 'Deep State'
Last year's uprising gave Egypt the gift of free speech, but the liberals and youth of Tahrir Square are increasingly sidelined.
In Egypt, ‘Deep State’ vs. ‘Brotherhoodization’ | Brookings Institution
In Egypt, ‘Deep State’ vs. ‘Brotherhoodization’
By: Bessma Momani
During the short-lived rule of ousted Egyptian president Mohammed Morsi, the Muslim Brotherhood complained bitterly about the “deep state” (the bureaucracy, military, security services) while liberal-secularists accused the Brotherhood of consolidating power throughout Egypt in order to push through its conservative social policies. In rebutting these claims, each side accused the other of sheer paranoia.
And now, the impending decision on former dictator Hosni Mubarak’s release from prison will only give further political ammunition to the polarizing narrative in Egypt – and ultimately tip the balance in favour of one of these opposing arguments.
